Marriage as a remedy for lust

[Traveler]

4 minutes ago, Rob Osborn said:

I agree with this for the most part. I would like to add that sexual/ sensual intimacy is first and foremost the most important part of marriage- why we should be getting married. Procreation of children is the "result" or "product" of that sexually intimate relationship. I feel it wrong to think of it the other way around.. 

 

I sort of agree as well - I believe that procreation of children, and sexual intimacy are ordained of G-d - according to the law of G-d.

 

The Traveler

[Rob Osborn]

4 minutes ago, Traveler said:

 

I sort of agree as well - I believe that procreation of children, and sexual intimacy are ordained of G-d - according to the law of G-d.

 

The Traveler

I agree.

[Vort]

11 minutes ago, Rob Osborn said:

I would like to add that sexual/ sensual intimacy is first and foremost the most important part of marriage- why we should be getting married. Procreation of children is the "result" or "product" of that sexually intimate relationship.

I disagree. This is the Western "romantic" view of marriage, which I grew up with and, frankly, which I held when I married. But I don't agree with it any more. Throughout thousands of years, billions of people have married without "sexual/sensual intimacy" being at the forefront of their reasons. In many cases, they married exactly because they wanted to start a family in order to have children. This is exactly in line with God's commandment to Adam and Eve, which was not, "Be desirous, and randy, and have lots of sex."

I do not think that it is wrong or evil to marry because one wants the intimacy (sexual and otherwise) that should accompany marriage. But I also do not think that's "the most important part of marriage", or that having children is merely a byproduct of getting married for intimacy. I think it's perfectly reasonable and righteous for two people to marry because they want to raise children together.

[Rob Osborn]

2 minutes ago, Vort said:

I disagree. This is the Western "romantic" view of marriage, which I grew up with and, frankly, which I held when I married. But I don't agree with it any more. Throughout thousands of years, billions of people have married without "sexual/sensual intimacy" being at the forefront of their reasons. In many cases, they married exactly because they wanted to start a family in order to have children. This is exactly in line with God's commandment to Adam and Eve, which was not, "Be desirous, and randy, and have lots of sex."

I do not think that it is wrong or evil to marry because one wants the intimacy (sexual and otherwise) that should accompany marriage. But I also do not think that's "the most important part of marriage", or that having children is merely a byproduct of getting married for intimacy. I think it's perfectly reasonable and righteous for two people to marry because they want to raise children together.

I disagree. Children are the end result of pleasuring together. A man cant get an erection without the physical attraction and desire. Its not just a button that gets pushed to have kids. Children are the direct result, or should be the direct result, of a couples most inate a intimate desires made manifest towards each other. Having sex just to make children void of intimate relations is wrong.

[Traveler]

3 hours ago, Rob Osborn said:

I disagree. Children are the end result of pleasuring together. A man cant get an erection without the physical attraction and desire. Its not just a button that gets pushed to have kids. Children are the direct result, or should be the direct result, of a couples most inate a intimate desires made manifest towards each other. Having sex just to make children void of intimate relations is wrong.

 

Generally speaking – it has seemed to me that men have a different view or should I say response to physical sexuality.  The determination of resolving differences in marriage is not so much about who is right but how things are resolved together.  I believe Satan understand this conundrum very well and is very cleaver in getting married to act individually rather than together.  I believe we see this type and shadow in the first “transgression” in Eden.  I also believe that brethren are wise to be more in touch with their wives’ perceptions in marriage than their own perceptions of what is right or wrong with their relationship. 

I am convinced it is better for one to understand and respect their spouse and work out things together than it is for either one to be right and demand the other conform. 

 

The Traveler

[Rob Osborn]

1 hour ago, Traveler said:

 

Generally speaking – it has seemed to me that men have a different view or should I say response to physical sexuality.  The determination of resolving differences in marriage is not so much about who is right but how things are resolved together.  I believe Satan understand this conundrum very well and is very cleaver in getting married to act individually rather than together.  I believe we see this type and shadow in the first “transgression” in Eden.  I also believe that brethren are wise to be more in touch with their wives’ perceptions in marriage than their own perceptions of what is right or wrong with their relationship. 

I am convinced it is better for one to understand and respect their spouse and work out things together than it is for either one to be right and demand the other conform. 

 

The Traveler

I agree 100%