Fether Posted May 15, 2018 Report Posted May 15, 2018 On 5/13/2018 at 6:18 PM, mara said: I just don't understand why he would give me these attractions then say I can't act on them. I see no reason to make people gay if they can't actually be gay. God does not make people sin or sinful. I don’t know why you have these feelings, but it is not God’s fault. as far as your temple question, it is more so the cumulative compilation of all the good things. Going to the temple once is great, reading 1 Nephi is great, paying tithingnis great. But what is really great? Doing all the things regularly. That is where the true joy comes. It can’t be explained, only experienced. Quote
seashmore Posted May 16, 2018 Report Posted May 16, 2018 @mara I just went to the temple to do baptisms with my youth, and was reminded of one of my very favorite things about going to to the temple: if you soften your heart, you can get glimpses of people as God sees them. This was also true when I was a temple ordinance worker. As I greeted members, especially youth, I felt like I could catch little bits of their potential. I suggest you work on obtaining a current temple recommend and, if you can, go to the temple and do baptisms and confirmations for the dead. Take a good look at yourself in a mirror, and ask to see yourself as God sees you. If you have a patriarchal blessing, this can also help answer some of your questions. If you don't have one, meet with your bishop or branch president and see what he suggests you do in order to get one. It, too, can help you see you as God sees you. I respect and admire the amount of self-discovery and self awareness you have already developed. I know that as you continue to commune with God, that wisdom and knowledge will only increase. Personally, I'm currently a single gal living a celibate life. It ain't easy, but it's worth it. Good luck and God bless! Sunday21 1 Quote
Guest Posted May 16, 2018 Report Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/13/2018 at 6:06 PM, mara said: To me it is about finding someone I want to spend eternity with. Do you mean "eternity" (lower case) or "Eternity"? If you're saying that you'd rather spend the rest of eternity with someone rather than spend Eternity with God, then you'll have your reward. Quote
Guest Posted May 16, 2018 Report Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/14/2018 at 1:06 AM, miav said: Is very disturbing the compair the two. If someone where you act upon their attraction of a child they would be raping the child or sexually abusing them. They are taking the child's agency away from them and causing great harm to them. When a person is homosexual and has a sexual relationship with someone they are both consenting to the sexual act and thus acting on their own agency. I know that people will argue on this forum to no end that the two are the same, but they are not. Sad that people can not see the difference. I am not saying the homosexuality is not a sin, but it there is a big difference between the two. I'll second what @Vort said. But if one were to take the same approach as the OP, then there is no difference. Think about what the OP said regarding the choice she's making. She also indicates that "these desires" are something she can't get around. She doesn't have a choice. It's a compulsion. She's given up her own agency to this desire. The rest of us believe that with the help of God, we can get over our sinful desires. Then the same holds true for anyone else she would come in contact with. Instead of encouraging this hypothetical someone to overcome their urges, she's encouraging that someone to give in to their desires. While not intentional, this is exactly the same as a predator seducing (not forcing per se) a more innocent person into committing sin. Quote
zil Posted May 16, 2018 Report Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Carborendum said: If you're saying that you'd rather spend the rest of eternity with someone rather than spend Eternity with God, then you'll have your reward. Except that it's guaranteed (that outside the celestial kingdom) the relationship "with someone" won't be the marital / sexual relationship people seem to expect. Edited May 16, 2018 by zil Quote
Guest Posted May 16, 2018 Report Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, zil said: Except that it's guaranteed (that outside the celestial kingdom) the relationship "with someone" won't be the marital / sexual relationship people seem to expect. I agree. But she's saying that it is not about sex. So, "spending the rest of eternity with someone" won't be about sex either. If that's what she wants, that's what she'll get. "Hanging around" for all eternity sounds awfully boring to me. But some people are like cats. Edited May 16, 2018 by Guest Quote
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