How Souls Are Created In Heaven?

[Hemidakota]

Consider the following but to maintain simplicity:

BACKDROP:

Intelligence = Intelligence

Spirit means = Intelligence & Spirit Body

Mortal means = Intelligence, Spirit Body, & Mortal Body

Immortal means = Intelligence, Spirit body, Mortal Body Glorified

MORTAL WORLD [Telestial]

We do know for our Telestial state, the following holds true:

Mortal man + Mortal Woman = Mortal child

Based on last pattern, what would you think, if the two come together and produce what type of offspring:

Spirit man + Spirit woman = ?

Immortal man + Mortal woman = ?

Immortal man + Immortal woman = ?

[tiancum]

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Being as you corrected her and ridiculed her for something relatively small... (saying it's the most uneducated thing ..yada yada)

[WANDERER]

Ummmm, Gaea's profile says 'male'.

[tree]

i agree pretty much with adeipho , all though i am not absolutely positive when the soul enters the body , i figure within the first three months. now as far as HemiDakotas question, i would say..................spirit male + spirit female = spirit child. immortal male + mortal female= Jesus Christ. immortal male + immortal female = immortal child immortal male + spirit female =??

[Guest tomk]

We do know for our Telestial state, the following holds true:

Mortal man + Mortal Woman = Mortal child

Based on last pattern, what would you think, if the two come together and produce what type of offspring:

Spirit man + Spirit woman = CAN'T

Immortal man + Mortal woman = JESUS

Immortal man + Immortal woman = EITHER PHYSICAL OR SPIRIT CHILDREN

For example, didn't Adam and Eve's original immortal physcial bodies get created by the union of Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother?

[Dear434]

We do know for our Telestial state, the following holds true:

Mortal man + Mortal Woman = Mortal child

Based on last pattern, what would you think, if the two come together and produce what type of offspring:

Spirit man + Spirit woman = CAN'T

Immortal man + Mortal woman = JESUS

Immortal man + Immortal woman = EITHER PHYSICAL OR SPIRIT CHILDREN

For example, didn't Adam and Eve's original immortal physcial bodies get created by the union of Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother?

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Gen 2:7

[Hemidakota]

This is the question I am currently searching...:)

[Hemidakota]

i agree pretty much with adeipho , all though i am not absolutely positive when the soul enters the body , i figure within the first three months. now as far as HemiDakotas question, i would say..................

spirit male + spirit female = spirit child. immortal male + mortal female= Jesus Christ. immortal male + immortal female = immortal child immortal male + spirit female =??

Did not Christ entered the physical body a day prior to birth?

[Hemidakota]

We do know for our Telestial state, the following holds true:

Mortal man + Mortal Woman = Mortal child

Based on last pattern, what would you think, if the two come together and produce what type of offspring:

Spirit man + Spirit woman = CAN'T

Immortal man + Mortal woman = JESUS

Immortal man + Immortal woman = EITHER PHYSICAL OR SPIRIT CHILDREN

For example, didn't Adam and Eve's original immortal physical bodies get created by the union of Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother?

Prophet Abraham, Moses, and Joseph Smith seen it otherwise. It was Brigham Young and Parley P. Pratt made that remark.

It has been revealed that we spirits did not have that mortal flesh as Adam or Michael while in the presence of our Heavenly Parents. IF we are the offspring of our heavenly parents by unionship and we are spirits only, then how is it possible for Adam & Eve have physical body by the same union?

[Guest tomk]

Prophet Abraham, Moses, and Joseph Smith seen it otherwise. It was Brigham Young and Parley P. Pratt made that remark.

It has been revealed that we spirits did not have that mortal flesh as Adam or Michael while in the presence of our Heavenly Parents. IF we are the offspring of our heavenly parents by unionship and we are spirits only, then how is it possible for Adam & Eve have physical body by the same union?

Why, if we can create physical bodies here in mortality, would that change when we are exalted beings?

I say we will be able to do both...create physical bodies as well as spirit bodies, and it will be accomplished in the same manner as we experience here on earth, the literal union of man and woman.

[Dear434]

Unless I'm mistaken, "like begets like". No?

[tree]

all i know is that adam was made from the dust from the earth, what ever else i dont know ? and where did you learn about a heavenly mother ? i am fairly new and have alot to learn.

[Dear434]

all i know is that adam was made from the dust from the earth, what ever else i dont know ? and where did you learn about a heavenly mother ? i am fairly new and have alot to learn.

Chapters 2 and 3 of Gospel Principles talks about "heavenly parents".

Gospel Principles

Gospel Principles

[Hemidakota]

Dear, what is your status of being a member?

[Hemidakota]

Why, if we can create physical bodies here in mortality, would that change when we are exalted beings?

I say we will be able to do both...create physical bodies as well as spirit bodies, and it will be accomplished in the same manner as we experience here on earth, the literal union of man and woman.

Ether 3:16 Read the verse "thoroughly"

[Hemidakota]

all i know is that adam was made from the dust from the earth, what ever else i dont know ? and where did you learn about a heavenly mother ? i am fairly new and have alot to learn.

Tree, there is Mother. I can testified to that question.

[tree]

thanks for the help d-434, through the gospel principles you gave i now have a whole line of scripture for study and reference.

[THIRDpersonviewer]

Ether 3:16 Read the verse "thoroughly"

I read it, based on "thoroughly," I felt no impression other than men are created in the likeness and image of spirit. Not in the way it has been irreverently talked about on other threads. Christ would appear to men in the same form that the Brother of Jared saw him. It is an eternal principle. All things created spiritual before physically.

[THIRDpersonviewer]

For the record. Heavenly Mother has not been revealed to man by scripture for this very reason. Someone whom God loves and respects with all His being, would not "give" her to men to be talked about in lowly accounts. To debase or to insult. Men do it to Him. He does not want that for His wife I am sure. It has to come by personal revelation, which is not to be revealed to anyone.

[Guest tomk]

For the record. Heavenly Mother has not been revealed to man by scripture for this very reason. Someone whom God loves and respects with all His being, would not "give" her to men to be talked about in lowly accounts. To debase or to insult. Men do it to Him. He does not want that for His wife I am sure. It has to come by personal revelation, which is not to be revealed to anyone.

This seemed to be directed at my recent comments.

First, let me say that I agree with you on the reasons Heavenly Mother is not referenced or talked about, in scripture, in song, from the pulpit, or anywhere else with great frequency. But I don't think that is the whole story. Sometimes you teach more by what you DON'T say and DON'T talk about as much as by what you DO say. Heavenly Mother is conspicuously absent from scripture. I think that stems from more than Heavenly Father's desire to protect his wife. The Saints don't feel that way about her. They love her.

I also want to make it clear that in nothing I have said have I offended Her or Father. Not in the least.

[VisionOfLehi]

Doctrine and Covenants 93

Abraham 3

We know that intelligence, and elements, are eternal. They can't be created, they've always been.

After that, it's speculation. But I do have mine. See, when the Lord "created" the Earth He wasn't doing in Ex Nihilo, but rather using the already existent spirit matter and elements and shaping them.

Considering that's how all of the rest of Creation was done, my personal belief is that the creation of our spirits follows a similar pattern. The intelligence and whatnot that has always been... Gets shaped into our spirits. How this works, and what a heavenly mother's role in that, I've no guesses.

[Hemidakota]

This seemed to be directed at my recent comments.

First, let me say that I agree with you on the reasons Heavenly Mother is not referenced or talked about, in scripture, in song, from the pulpit, or anywhere else with great frequency. But I don't think that is the whole story. Sometimes you teach more by what you DON'T say and DON'T talk about as much as by what you DO say. Heavenly Mother is conspicuously absent from scripture. I think that stems from more than Heavenly Father's desire to protect his wife. The Saints don't feel that way about her. They love her.

I also want to make it clear that in nothing I have said have I offended Her or Father. Not in the least.

Several General Confrences - HEAVENLY PARENTS, HEVEANLY MOTHER

[Hemidakota]

It has to come by personal revelation, which is not to be revealed to anyone.

I would change the word ANYONE to read EVERYONE

[VisionOfLehi]

LDS Newsroom - Clarifications to Religion Writers and Editors Regarding <i>Newsweek</i> Report

While the official Proclamation on the Family affirms that each human being is a beloved son or daughter of heavenly parents, there are no teachings about a Heavenly Mother in Latter-day Saint scripture.

No conference talks given by First Presidencies or Apostles have mentioned "heavenly mother."

Also, there's nothing I've found that says anything in a manner that suggests there's just one "Heavenly Mother." For all we know, there could be two, or more.

It's all speculation, and not necessary to know in order to receive salvation.

[THIRDpersonviewer]

This seemed to be directed at my recent comments.

First, let me say that I agree with you on the reasons Heavenly Mother is not referenced or talked about, in scripture, in song, from the pulpit, or anywhere else with great frequency. But I don't think that is the whole story. Sometimes you teach more by what you DON'T say and DON'T talk about as much as by what you DO say. Heavenly Mother is conspicuously absent from scripture. I think that stems from more than Heavenly Father's desire to protect his wife. The Saints don't feel that way about her. They love her.

I also want to make it clear that in nothing I have said have I offended Her or Father. Not in the least.

I wasn't directing them at anyone, just where the conversation has been and where it was going.

A thirdpersonview