KeithBerry Posted March 18, 2008 Report Posted March 18, 2008 OK, so I've never done anything like forums, myspace, etc but I figured I'd google LDS forums and see what's out there. Seems pretty nice! I've been a member for about 4 years and am sealed to my family. It's been a wirl-wind and I still miss the missionaries coming over weekly to answer my questions. Do people typically ask deep doctrinal questions here? My HT's are kind of new and not 100% and often times it's tough to ask questions in meetings in fear of getting the whole meeting off into a long tangent. Quote
Guest tomk Posted March 18, 2008 Report Posted March 18, 2008 Keith: Welcome to the forums. I guess the "depth" of the question depends on the person's progression in gospel understanding. I have found that focusing on the first principles and ordinances of the gospel is all the depth I will ever need. Christ Himself will reveal the rest to me. Quote
KeithBerry Posted March 18, 2008 Author Report Posted March 18, 2008 Oh, I know. The answer is not in the thunder, but in the still small voice. I have learned over time to understand the spirit and am constantly developing it. I guess sometimes I get hung up on certain things I just can't get my mind around. Maybe I'm just not ready. Here's one for you: Satan and his followers were banished from heaven and never got the opportunity to achieve mortality. Those who adhere to Satan in mortality will still be resurrected, and then judged. So,. . . after being judged in their resurrected bodies and cast out, do they lose their bodies a second time in order to be with Satan?See what I mean? Deep, huh. . . Quote
MaidservantX Posted March 18, 2008 Report Posted March 18, 2008 Welcome, Kieth . . . glad to have you around. And I have to agree with tom, lol. Repentance, faith, baptism, Holy Ghost, etc. . . . those are quite deep!! Start a thread on your question, of course, ha ha. Quote
Guest tomk Posted March 18, 2008 Report Posted March 18, 2008 Here's one for you: Satan and his followers were banished from heaven and never got the opportunity to achieve mortality. Those who adhere to Satan in mortality will still be resurrected, and then judged. So,. . . after being judged in their resurrected bodies and cast out, do they lose their bodies a second time in order to be with Satan? My speculation on this is:Yes. They are the only ones upon which the Second Death will have any power. Their ultimate fate is to be dissolved back into the raw "intelligence" from which they were first scooped-up. Perhaps to begin the journey again, hopefully this time with better results. Quote
Canuck Mormon Posted March 18, 2008 Report Posted March 18, 2008 Welcome. You can discuss deep or shallow topics, it's up to you. Have fun. Quote
skalenfehl Posted March 18, 2008 Report Posted March 18, 2008 Welcome! This is really a great place to hang out, make new friends of all faiths and build your testimony!Here's one for you: Satan and his followers were banished from heaven and never got the opportunity to achieve mortality. Those who adhere to Satan in mortality will still be resurrected, and then judged. So,. . . after being judged in their resurrected bodies and cast out, do they lose their bodies a second time in order to be with Satan?See what I mean? Deep, huh. . .I believe those who were cast down with Satan will be permanently delivered into perdition or outer darkness. They lost their first estate. Read Jude 6 in the Bible. Essentially our preexistence with Father in Heaven was our first estate. Those who came to earth (you and me) have received our second estate and our glory can be added upon. Read Abraham 3:26. Abraham 3:24,27-28 is also good for reference. Now because we chose to gain our second estate (mortality) we will keep this by virtue of Christ's resurrection. Because he resurrected we shall all resurrect whether wicked or righteous. Read Alma 11:42-45 and Alma 40:21-26. So if you lived a Telestial law, a Terrestrial law or a Celestial law then you will inherit one of those kingdoms. As for Cain and the few who became sons of perdition, they shall be cast into outer darkness with Satan and his followers (who kept not their first estate) where there will weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth and Cain, who having a resurrected body because he kept his second estate will rule over Satan. Beyond that, to my knowledge is speculation. Quote
tree Posted March 19, 2008 Report Posted March 19, 2008 hello and welcome , i love all these DEEP questions, i have a million of them too !! its nice to see people who think like me !! (all though i have been told i think to much) its going to be great talking to you !! your sis in Christ, tree Quote
tree Posted March 19, 2008 Report Posted March 19, 2008 As for Cain and the few who became sons of perdition, they shall be cast into outer darkness with Satan and his followers (who kept not their first estate) where there will weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth and Cain, who having a resurrected body because he kept his second estate will rule over Satan. Beyond that, to my knowledge is speculation. skalenfehl what is ESTATE mean in these verses and where do i find that cain will rule over satan ? thanks for your help, tree Quote
skalenfehl Posted March 19, 2008 Report Posted March 19, 2008 As for Cain and the few who became sons of perdition, they shall be cast into outer darkness with Satan and his followers (who kept not their first estate) where there will weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth and Cain, who having a resurrected body because he kept his second estate will rule over Satan. Beyond that, to my knowledge is speculation. skalenfehl what is ESTATE mean in these verses and where do i find that cain will rule over satan ? thanks for your help, treeI'd be happy to answer, but could you start a new topic for this? We don't want to go off topic here. Thanks. Quote
tree Posted March 20, 2008 Report Posted March 20, 2008 i dont know how , this is about all i can do on a computer. can you tell me how & what to do to post a thread? Quote
Maya Posted March 22, 2008 Report Posted March 22, 2008 Welcome...enjoy! I speculate all too much thinks those closest to me... I like it and besides it is not that terrible if my speculation proves wrong. Some people just can not take any speculation... speculation is not clearing truths...it is.... just speculations.. Quote
Maya Posted March 22, 2008 Report Posted March 22, 2008 i dont know how , this is about all i can do on a computer. can you tell me how & what to do to post a thread?Tree: When you klick yourself in fex General discusition and see all the threads... over them you see post a NEW THREAD, just abit above the threads.. klick that give name to the thread and write...and submit. Quote
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