WANDERER Posted March 23, 2008 Report Posted March 23, 2008 What is the difference between your soul and your spirit? Quote
skalenfehl Posted March 23, 2008 Report Posted March 23, 2008 Essentially they are the same. I can't think of anything that would set them apart. Quote
Alaskagain Posted March 23, 2008 Report Posted March 23, 2008 hmmm. I don't have a source for this, but I remember hearing the definition of a Soul as being the combination of the spirit and the physical body. Quote
a-train Posted March 23, 2008 Report Posted March 23, 2008 Gen 2:7: 'And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.'The spirit or body alone does not constitute a soul. The mortal tabernacle did not become a living soul until the breath of life was placed therein by Him who gives life.Isaiah 29:8: 'It shall even be as when an hungry man dreameth, and, behold, he eateth; but he awaketh, and his soul is empty: or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and, behold, he drinketh; but he awaketh, and, behold, he is faint, and his soul hath appetite: so shall the multitude of all the nations be, that fight against mount Zion.'The appetites of our mortal experience are not those of the flesh alone, but also of the spirit. The old testament refers in many places to temporal cravings as the appetites, the lusts, or the desires of the soul.D&C 88:15 is the most simple and plain on the subject: 'And the spirit and the body are the soul of man. And the resurrection from the dead is the redemption of the soul.'A rigid use and definition of the term 'soul' should not be held with complete inflexibility. Alma 41:2 loosens things up a bit with: 'Behold, it is requisite and just, according to the power and resurrection of Christ, that the soul of man should be restored to its body, and that every part of the body should be restored to itself.'Still, the main use of the term 'soul' denotes the union of the spirit and body as the constitution of a living being. At least that's what they told me in Sunday School back in 1987.-a-train Quote
WANDERER Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Posted March 23, 2008 Okay so would it follow that..? the soul is your mind will and emotions the spirit is the life force from God. That makes us Triune beings, body, soul (mind will emotions), spirit (life) Is your spirit the part that connects you to God? Quote
Alaskagain Posted March 23, 2008 Report Posted March 23, 2008 I would put "mind/will/emotion" under spirit. We were spirit children before we obtained mortal bodies, and had the ability to feel and make decisions. The soul is the entity that exists when the spirit and the physical body are combined. It is different and more than either part on its own. Second part, yes it is through our spirit that we are able to "connect" with God, and feel the influence of the Holy Spirit. (JMO- what makes sense to me.) Quote
WANDERER Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Posted March 23, 2008 Just realised that it would be incorrect to say as spirit beings that we did not have emotions. Perhaps the soul is more your 'personality' or consciousness. Quote
WANDERER Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Posted March 23, 2008 What does redemption of the whole soul: spirit and body mean? Quote
a-train Posted March 23, 2008 Report Posted March 23, 2008 Wanderer, if you are looking to define three distinct aspects of human being, the LDS teaching lists: spirit, spirit body, and physical body. The mind, or conscious observer is the spirit. The spirit is embodied in a pure tabernacle through which it experiences or observes its environment. The physical body adds a second estate by which further experience is obtained. The spirit is eternal and cannot be created nor destroyed. We, indeed are eternal infinite observers and actors in the universe. A spirit body was created by God and given to upon our first estate. Joseph Smith described it as technically physical, but so fine or pure that it is not perceptible with the coarse elements we commonly call physical. The physical body is that which our medical professors study so deeply and which we must fight so vigorously to control. This is obtained through birth into this world and is a second estate into which those proven faithful in the first estate are brought. The soul is the assimilation of all three aspects: spirit, spirit body, and physical body. The purpose of this constitution is that we may have joy. Enjoy. -a-train Quote
a-train Posted March 23, 2008 Report Posted March 23, 2008 What does redemption of the whole soul: spirit and body mean?It is the resurrection. It is the reassimilation of the spirit body with an incorruptible physical body.-a-train Quote
WANDERER Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Posted March 23, 2008 It is the reassimilation of the spirit body with an incorruptible physical body. Could we not have that otherwise? Am I missing something? Quote
a-train Posted March 23, 2008 Report Posted March 23, 2008 Otherwise? I think I am missing something. When the body goes to the grave and the spirit is displaced, the soul dies. The redemption of the soul is the reuniting of the spirit and body which is the resurrection.-a-train Quote
WANDERER Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Posted March 23, 2008 oh okay: incorruptible physical body equals resurrection. Quote
WANDERER Posted March 24, 2008 Author Report Posted March 24, 2008 BTW Have JOY too A-Train and Happy Easter. Quote
Hemidakota Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 What is the difference between your soul and your spirit?SOUL = mortal body + spirit body + intelligence [i AM]SPIRIT = spirit body + intelligence [i AM] Quote
Hemidakota Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 Otherwise? I think I am missing something. When the body goes to the grave and the spirit is displaced, the soul dies. The redemption of the soul is the reuniting of the spirit and body which is the resurrection.-a-trainExactly where does the disembodied spirit go? Quote
utcowboy Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 Thats easy for me, it goes to either spirit paredis or spirit prison. (Yes I know I can't spell :) ) This is what I've been taught and what I fully believe, besides it sounds a lot better then some of the other alternetives out there. JMO Quote
JLFuller Posted April 8, 2008 Report Posted April 8, 2008 Here is our gensis as I understand it. If I left something out I hope someopne will fill it in. We have always existed as an intelligence of some sort. We are immortal. Through pro-creative abilites, God, our Heavenly Father along with a co-equal mother gave birth to us in a spirit body complete with spirit version of Godly dna. They raised us in thier household until we were ready to come to earth and take on the physical body we have now. When we die, our spirit returns to the spirit world but is apart from Father and the Celestial existance of our previous home. If the person has been baptised on earth by one having proper authority and having accepted the gospel of Christ he/she can then go to the Terrestial version of the spirit world. Part of the spirit world is a place of imprisoned spirits. They are subject to the influences and buffetings of Satan. They are waiting to be taught the gospel by properly called and authorized servants of Christ and to have ordinances performed on thier behalf by people on earth. These ordinances are performed in temples. Once they are completed, and the person accepts the gospel and temple work done on his/her behalf, he/she can cross over into a Terrestial world of spirits where Christ can meet and minister with them. They can then perform additional duties such as missionary work in spirit prison while awaitng the resurection of thier bodies. Hell is the absence of God, Christ and the Holy Ghost and is a place called God's Eternal Punishment. It is where spirits are assinged as punishment and where justice is meted out but tempered by mercy. When we are resurrectred, we take up a new whole body similar to the one we laid down at death but with all the ailments and problems fixed. It is perfect and the one we will take into eternity. At some point we are then judged and assigned to one of the three degrees or heavens. Each body has a different set of empowering conditons and abilites commensurate with the people assigned to that degree. Satan and his angels are then consigned to outer darkness and total irrevocable seperation from God, Christ, the Holy Ghost and all of God's obediant children. The soul is the combination of the eternal physical body and the eternal spirit. Every one of God's children born into this life will have an equal opportunity to hear the gospel and accept or reject it. Each will have the ordinances of baptism, confirmation and the other ordinances performed for him/her in the temple vicariously. So far, about 2 billion names have been done. The others who have died without leaving a trace in history will have thier names provided to temple during the millenial reign of Christ when the veil between mortal life and the other side can be lifted. At that time, thousands of temples will be on the earth doing this work. Those who are allowed into the Celstial Kingdom and achieve the highest degree within it, will have the opportunity to join with his/her spouse and become partakers of the full inheritance of Jesus Christ and become congeneric with Him and God the Father and have posterity worlds without end. This is what is meant by Eternal Life being the greatest gift of God. Now, allow me to add in a little theoretical science called String Theory and juxtapose it with the doctrine of Eternal Life. This is my specultive meandering however. Theoretical physics postulates that our universe may be like a bubble floating in a sea of bubbles with each bubble being another universe. This ocean of universes may have the ability to autogenerate an unending quantity of other bubbles each with it's own size and natural laws. Big bangs happen when two of the bubbles come into contact. Elements in one universe may influence the elements of another. Hmmmm. Quote
Hemidakota Posted April 13, 2008 Report Posted April 13, 2008 The last paragraph was already taught thousand of years prior to Christ. Older non-canonized doctrine reveal such. Quote
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