Lindy

SUNSHINE! ...... (my special word for the week )Great post BTW BG2!

Jason....you know you are right! I remembered a show I watched on BYU tv awhile back....with interviews of World War Vets.....They had Germans on there along with the Americans.... both sides fighting against each other....and to hear the stories of LDS brother vs LDS brother..... I watched and listened in stone cold silence. The stories they told made you cry....(well they made ME cry) edited with: Sometimes it's hard to understand anothers view point when it comes to religion....and love of country. For those dedicated to country....it's a no brainer.... but what faith they believe in is part of who they are....and what they will stand for. God and Country...it's hard to explain I guess.

Gotta Love you LT.... My thougts exactly! I don't want to leave my friends behind....so I think a lower level will suit me just fine

ROFL

And I think that you are too hard on yourself....maybe you just don't see what others see in you. You may not see it....but it's still there.Chin up buckeroo.... if you don't think that you would even see the distant light of Heaven.... I think we are all in big trouble.

Shawn~ Oh...so your question doesn't have an "ulterior purpose"? There you go thinking again! Not earthshattering huh? Maybe you havent' talked to very many people who have turned their back and walked away from the LDS faith because of someone who helped shatter their world with words. Sorry if I am a bit skeptical about your post Shawn....I didn't think it as fun. Ok...in all fairness I think that you can't stand the fact that there are some who continue to keep their faith and trust in that faith...and it ANNOYS you...so you wanted to do something to alleviate that annoyance Good for you Shawn.....you get the prize for all around nice guy!! No wait a minute......Setheus....you still here? B) Soooo, you do capitalize on the weakness of others! It seems to me that you have made it a mission to zero in on weak testimonies of the Latter-Day Saints and try to destroy the fledging faith they have. Sneaky Shawn very sneaky I'm not being rude...just stating my mind if you wanted to know. Oh, and to answer the top question....Of course I am, are you? And as John Doe said... "Thanks for playing" !

Another one of those emails I had to share with you..... "What if the Book of Mormon had been written by Dr. Seuss?" Author: Unknown Nephi: Of goodly parents I was born; I've never drunk, I've never sworn; This is Lehi, he's my dad; Laman, Lemuel, they are bad; And who is this? Why this is Sam; Yes, this is Sam; Sam: Sam I am Laman: That Sam I am, that Sam I am; I do not like that Sam I am Sam: In a tent, my father dwelt Laman: And it's so hot, I think I'll melt Lemuel: Our father's brain is out of whack Laman: Yeah, it's too hot, I'm going back Lehi: Then go and get the plates my dear Laman: On second thought, I'm staying here Nephi: You said you'd leave and go away; Now all you want to do is stay? Lemuel: That Nephi always gets his way Laman: Here we are in this damp cave Sam: We would not be here if you'd behave Nephi: I will go and I will do; There's the angel, that's my cue Laban's had too much to drink; Now he'll lose his head, I think Nephi: Look what I found, a brother from the quorum Sam: We will take him home, we will call him Zoram Lemuel: Oh great, another pathetic life form Laman: Our gold and silver we have spent; I do not like it in this tent Lemuel: I cannot read the Liahona; I must have drunk too much Corona Laman: We hate it here, we have no lives Lehi: Then go back to the city and get some wives Lehi: A tree, a tree, I see a tree; The fruit is white, the fruit is free; A floating building, could it be? Why do they laugh and stare at me? Laman, Lemuel, come and see Laman: We will not eat your precious fruit Lemuel: We will not wear a tie and suit Laman: We will not help you build your boat Lemuel: We do not think that it will float Laman: No not this boat, it will not float; Not even in a shallow moat; I do not care what Nephi wrote Lemuel: We will not eat your fruit I say Laman: We will not eat it on a tray Lemuel: And we won't eat it in a tent; Not even if your clothes you rent Laman: We'd rather have a can of spam L & L: We will not eat it, Sam I am Sam: You do not like it, so you say; Try it, try it, and you may Try it and you may I say Laman: Sam, if you will let us be, We will try it, you will see -------------------------------------- edited: Sorry if the above offends any soft hearts.....not my intention ... I found it humorous ....but that is just me.

Shawn~If you know anything about the members on this board...you will know that Winnie G speaks her mind...something we all love about her. To answer your question...there are those who have had inner struggles with what to believe, or what not to believe. But I expect that the adversary tries to manipulate the weaknesses and expound on the insecurities of those who try to stand strong in their beliefs. I'm sure that as a "born again Mormon" you are trying to capitalize on any doubts, fears or worries that anyone has with their allegiance to the LDS faith. Does it really annoy you that there are some who stand firm in what they believe? No matter what? So don't expect a lot of scores to tally on your poll. You may have better luck on one of the anti sites.

Very Good Post BG!...Very Well Said! AAAAA++++

For all it's worth....I'm a chat kind of person

If I am only good at one thing....let it be to bring a smile to someone that needs it :)

no problemo :) Glad you had a chance to read it :)

That is a great idea SF! A great summer idea.....one I should use more often... frozen juice cubes (in ice cube trays)....mix and match colors in punch....etc.

Hey! THAT's my job! My calling if you would rather

Setheus~ Have you seen the article from TIME magazine "How the Shepherd Saved the SEAL" ? This is a printout page of the article........ http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout...1081394,00.html here's the home page: http://www.time.com/time/magazine How is Eros doing? Send him our best wishes would you? You keep some for yourself too....

Setheus~ For all it is worth.... I am sorry from the bottom of my heart. For you of those who have military pride and honor.....they found the body of the missing SEAL. Freedom has a price.

Wow LT~ You made me think. I am walking the line and think that I am ok, or I thought that I was ok not attending church like a good little lds should. (I have my reasons) I have my faith basically in tact, it's not going anywhere, and I still feel a need to serve others, to be there for them if they need me, to do what I can to help those in need. It's a part of who I am, not a part of what I have been told to do by the church. Then you had to go and say "...But for how long how long before the foundation starts to crumble?" Excellent point.....I can only say that the foundation is rock solid....it's the rest of the structure I should worry about huh?

Setheus~ You know that our prayers are with all of you at this time. If you need anything, you know you only have to ask and your "board family" will respond. Tell him best wishes from all of us here, and thoughts and prayers will continue. I would smile, but the tears are still getting in the way, Lindy

Meridiani~ Just to clarify something....I was the one who started the thread about the 12 year old, saying it was sick and wrong....SICK AND WRONG! I will stand by my opinion in that, I don't want LaurelTree taking crap from something I posted to start with. And as for "People, here at this forum, who will not consider anything that disrupts their "world"~ another clarification....I am a 'people' at this forum....and I consider a lot of things that disrupt my "world"..... part of who I am. I would probably shock you with things I "consider" that have or may still disrupt "my world" as it is. And as a coyote......if I see something I think is wrong... yes, I will attack if I feel strongly enough about it; but I have also been known to see the bait dangling in front of me.....and chose to walk away from it. Such as the question of "what puts the cult in culture? As for Biz and Normal B........ I am sure that you both are intelligent enough to figure out for yourselves the "that was then" "this is now" differences with very little effort. What was "an acceptable age" to marry is now considered child rape (in America) Other countries it's another story, since they have different standards of acceptable ages for marriage.... but 12? And as for the posts about the sicko's abusing children... I don't give a flying rat's butt is they are LDS or not....they were WRONG....and will be judged accordingly. Yes there are bad people in every religion...and the mormons are not immune to perverts within their ranks. Sad, but true.

Hi Biz...question for ya.....so if feelings are not equal to or verify truth as we know it .... than the love, respect, admiration, and honor that we have towards someone has no truth to it?

and personally.... I don't either. I think that you are right about faith being a key factor in salvation....that's what keeps my hope alive! Obedience and progression ? I could be in trouble

I found this looking at the frozen dog story above. 12-year-old girl gets divorce= just sick and wrong....SICK and wrong..... AN Indian girl who was married off against her will when she was 12, has won a battle to have her two-year marriage annulled so she can go back to school. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15741...8-13762,00.html

Past favorite....Primary! I loved having the the older kids right before they turned 12. A couple of them I had in nursery (when I first joined the church :) )....so we knew each other pretty well, and when they started acting up... I would just remind them that I saw them in diapers.... they behaved very well from then on It was nice to see them grow up and attain the different levels of responsiblity and maturity that you wished for them when they were younger. :)

Oh Dale.... I don't think you need to reading a thread on gospel help.... I think you need one on mental help ROFL

I am not offering any opinion on this subject....just been reading the thread and think it's time to jump in and offer my services as a target for Snow.... I think SF has had enough already. I have opinions of my own on other issues....doesn't make me wrong. I think that SF has made it clear that, her opinion is her opinion, just as mine is mine and yours is yours. How small this world would be if we all had to think alike.