Lindy

I had to laugh Snow.... looking around that page I know it's not an American newspaper site...looks like it's from England to me! LOL I am asking your permission to use you're byline: "In an unrelated story a discovery has been made that the world is full of morons," This was just too good to pass up :) There's a kid in Czech Republic I know who will really get a kick out of this one.

Hey JohnD~ Don't have a clue who you are.....but welcome back anyway! :)

Great Post LT! I am going to cut and paste a pm I sent to someone who asked about that age old question...."would you leave....if" "I looked for the LDS church teachings for too long in this life...I cannot even think of anything wrong being associated with it. So yes, because of what I believe, and how I believe, I would stay put. It's like having someone tell you that they can prove the non-existance of God..... I don't care about the proof that anyone would have.... I only know what I know is true for me. I have shades of grey in my life....believe me....but not when it comes to the basic truth as I know it. ".......Lindy

Oh, I so agree! I think back on several years ago when I made one of the biggest decisions of my life.....to stay in the podunk area I was in, instead of moving to an area that I loved, to keep the happiness I had found in my life. I had to do some major heavy duty praying about a decision that would affect my family as well as my own life. The answer was not to move. I was a bit unhappy (ok....more than a bit) with that answer, but I learned to deal with it. I knew I had to rely on the faith I had, and that God knew what was best for me at that time. But I became very bitter for a short time, hating everything about the area that I "couldn't leave", I hated the dry land, the heat, the tumbleweeds and the lack of pine trees and ferns...and I even found fault with the cattle grazing on the hillsides next to the highway that I had to travel on every day to work and back.....then I realized that I needed some Heavenly help to overcome the extreme hatred I had developed for the east side of the Cascades.....so I prayed again. The Spirit touched my heart one day as I was driving to work.....as I came up to a spot where the river could be seen from the car......I heard that small voice tell me that there is beauty in everything...all I needed to do was to open my eyes and see it ...and then I saw something that was so beautiful it could have been put on a postcard....the reflection of some of the trees' in the water, with clouds that looked like cotten balls dotting the sky, the fall leaves that were changing colors....and the blue of the sky ....all reflecting in the river... and then when I glanced to the west...I saw one of the snow covered mountains in the distance, with nothing but blue skies surrounding it........I guess you had to be there...it was just so pretty. It was like God telling me "I have given you so much good....stop trying to find the bad." I stopped looking for the bad. I like to keep that "open door policy" with the Spirit...to keep that communication line open. I actually rely on the feelings I get when I pray about something.....I don't know what I would do if I could not have the feeling of the Spirit in my life.

Jenda, I better not let my wife see your avatar. She is head over heals for that pirate and thinks he is about the hottest thing on earth except for that other guy that I can't remember his name. Paul O ← HEY PAUL! Good to see you on board, if just for a bit :) I got that copy I ordered from Amazon....just haven't had the time to read it yet After the next couple of days, I'll have the time. And yes, I will stand behind Jenda and her avator! And as for the "other guys" name? I know MY answer!

I think it's very nice too! Now, I just have to find the time to play around with it and have fun :)

That's hilarious. Why is long hair evil? Because the one with it has to use more shampoo and conditioner than the one with less? I'm at a loss, I can't think of why long hair has the appearance of evil - explain please. M. Two words: Easy Rider. I can not see why long hair on a man is considered "evil" I think that is just plain silly. I happen to like long hair on guys. I have never considered any of them "evil" Although...............If I picture "evil" in long hair..... it would be Jack Nickleson!

I've been thinking a lot of the promptings we get in our lives....and this post came back to my mind.... if we don't follow the promptings we have, or accept the answers we get to our prayers....then we have to face the consequences of our choices. We may become victimized, hurt, angry and resentful for that consequense, of not listening to that still small voice.... never knowing the safety and peace of mind for following that prompting; but, whose fault it that?" Regardless of how hard that other girl may have prayed did she follow the prompting of the spirit? Excellelant question Setheus...it deserved a response.

Winnie.... I agree with Pushka...My 2 cents....the man isn't worth the brain matter used to think about him...all it is doing is stressing you out. Let it go, enjoy what you have. If somewhere down the line, the ### has a change of heart..then deal with it....you are too good a person to let him ruin anything in your life right now. Lindy

Trav~ something you said in your last post "Sometimes I think devout people are like a bunch of geese that waddle through the mud every week to get to church to talk about flying and then waddle back home through the mud. It just reminded me of something I said to a friend last week "People are like pigs, they will walk over the grass to get to the mud." Meaning there are so many who will trample over the good things to get to the dirt. At that time I was talking about the many times we overlook the good things we see, read, or think about - because it's more fun and less work on our part if we ignore the good things we have in front of us, because our minds are focused on the mud we can have fun in. I guess now, my point is...so many of us have lost our focus, we get caught up in our little routines of plodding thru life, that we sometimes miss that great idea of flying... a feat that we know we are capable of.

Hey Joe, Not that it has anything to do with submittting my thoughts on super heros....but I just got to see the "Fantastic Four" movie. Thought you may enjoy the chance to sit back and enjoy a good movie. The special effects were great! ......Lindy

Right back at you Trav... and thanks for your input....as always...it means something. :)Lindy

Boys Boys Boys.....enough of the who said what, who did what.... we are talking Shrimp here! Either put forth a good shrimp recipe... or leave the boat. Back to shrimp!

I wondered why Jar Jar annoyed me so much....thank you for helping me understand those surpressed feelings I had regarding that oversized play toy. You get paid by the hour for consultations?

You know Trav~ Sometimes it's hard for anyone else to know the covenant that another person makes with God, and what bearing does that have on anyone else anyway? I don't think that anyone should look down on those that struggle with any kind of commitment period. Regular attendance, irregular attendance...if someone is trying to do what they can, when they can....why question their motives?

Maureen~I really tend to agree with you, I know there are other ways to keep yourself spiritually uplifted and educated if you can't attend church. When I was working every single weekend, and couldn't make it to any classes, much less sacrament meeting.... I knew that I needed to keep my self going and growing in my faith and my testimony. I read a lot of scriptures, joined a few message boards, and put the Church website on my favorites list....so I could keep up with, and listen to the Prophet when I could. When I was able to attend meetings...well, things happened, and I just went to Sacrament meetings for a long time. I attended all three classes this last Sunday....and it was very nice! There are still times that I have to work on Sundays....but I have my sources I draw from so I can keep that fire going :)

Lindy still says "You don't know Bat at all do you? " I've read the article, I am fully aware of what it says, what he did, and who he is. K. Anderson...you said "Look at what I said to "bat', CAN YOU ACCEPT IT? CAN YOU ACCEPT THE LORDS WILL?" I'm just laughing, I'm sorry but I find this all quite funny. I just want to thank you for the giggles....:)

mmmmm chunks of zucchini cut up and steamed with a little garlic and onion...tossed in with some of those tiger shrimps.....mmmmm and that dash of teriyaki sauce sounds wonderful!

Even if they act immorally?Besides, the story is false, fictionaly, so we have to question the morality of those that pass it off as true. And besides that, why should it be that angels are above morality? Says who? Even if they act immorally? Ok, fair enough question.... I don't really know the rules and regulations of being an angel... I do feel that there are different levels of morality. I can only say this... I think that angels are a step above the spirits, that they were appointed to "angeldom" because of their faith and their obedience to our Heavenly Father. But the immorality of an angel?...right now that is a very hard question for me to even give my opinion on....still thinking about it.#1 I usually fly everything by snopes to check it out....in this case I didn't...ergo the disclaimer at the top of my original post. #2 Had no intention to pass it off as truth, was just using the story to discuss the the power of prayer, and the angels we encounter in our lives. #3 Had no intention of upsetting anyone over the fact that girl #2 was raped in this fictious story. #4 I don't care if anyone questions my morality, since I wasn't trying to pass it off as the truth. #5 I still don't think we should question the morality of an angel.

Shan~ No offense taken...I understand what you said, and I think that I will just reiterate something SF said in her post..."Sure bad things happen to good people but it doesn't mean that it wasn't because they didn't pray hard enough that it happened. The real test comes from the way they pick themselves up and continue in their faith. We can not possibly know why things happen here on earth. There are so many answers we seek to find, ones we will never find here on earth. I know that I will have a list of questions that will go with me when I leave this life....questions I know will be answered...I just have to show patience. (something I really am working on :) )

First~ Great post Ray! I really liked that one Second~ Jason-I really hope you find what you are looking for Third~ I'm going to be late for work, so I gotta jet! You BOTH have a great day!

Ok...I'll jump on the bandwagon....since I'm a LOT confused with this: I didn't see anything, of the sort, in her post trying to exempt herself from being a problem.

K. Anderson~ You don't know Bat at all do you?

Yes Setheus... I understand your explaination, and will agree that we are guided around the danger in many circumstances, but don't you think that there are times when He has us protected in the face of danger for some reason? In the case of this "story" I see a rapist identified by the first woman who got a good look at him, where as perhaps the second (the victim) may have not had a chance for a good look.... and that slug spitting scum was taken off the streets and away from any more innocent victims BECAUSE of the first womans ID. So in a way, she protected countless others from his attacks, because she did what she was supposed to do....take that shortcut...while being protected as she continued her way down that alley. I believe that sometimes we have to look evil in the face in order to do something to conteract it. But that's just me.

If prayer can't serve the individual saying the prayer then why do we teach our children to pray when they are scared etc?and you are right SF... why should we pray if we don't think it would do any good? Prayer is what we are taught, and it is what we know to be a truth to follow. PS..... Snow.. I don't think that we should judge the morality of an angel