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  1. It wasn't a meeting for everyone to input their ideas for a plan to consider. Lucifer wasn't asked to present a plan.... Technically there were not TWO plans. There was ONE Plan, Heavenly Father's plan. Jesus and Lucifer(perhaps others?) volunteered to take the job but Lucifer wanted to CHANGE The Plan and take away our agency, which of course is impossible since Agency is an eternal law, not something that can be given or taken away, only infringed. Messing with a PERFECT plan isn't really presenting an alternate plan, it was open rebellion, and thus the fact that Lucifer and his followers were cast out.
  2. I would say that the moral / spiritual abuse of having an innocent child being raised in such an amoral environment is just as horrible as physical abuse and could possibly be worse in an eternal perspective. The child is being taught Lucifer's perverted version of parents and family and the damage could have eternal consequences. The same would apply to non married "parents" of opposite gender.
  3. Margin of Error's quote is correct. Below is the entire section from LDS.org on this. ------------------ Consecration of Oil One or more Melchizedek Priesthood holders must consecrate olive oil before it is used to anoint the sick or afflicted. No other oil may be used. To do this, a priesthood holder: * 1. Holds an open container of olive oil. * 2. Addresses Heavenly Father. * 3. States that he is acting by the authority of the Melchizedek Priesthood. * 4. Consecrates the oil (not the container) and sets it apart for anointing and blessing the sick and afflicted. * 5. Closes in the name of Jesus Christ. * • Have each Melchizedek Priesthood holder consecrate some olive oil for himself and for others in the class who may need some in their home. Only Melchizedek Priesthood holders may administer to the sick or afflicted. Administering to the sick has two parts: (1) anointing with oil and (2) sealing the anointing. The anointing is done by one Melchizedek Priesthood holder. He: Administering to the Sick 1. Puts a small amount of consecrated oil on the person’s head. * 2. Places his hands lightly on the person’s head and calls the person by his or her full name. * 3. States that he is acting by the authority of the Melchizedek Priesthood. * 4. States that he is anointing with consecrated oil. * 5. Closes in the name of Jesus Christ. Normally, two or more Melchizedek Priesthood holders place their hands lightly on the person’s head. The one who seals the anointing: * 1. Calls the person by his or her full name. * 2. States that he is acting by the authority of the Melchizedek Priesthood. * 3. Seals the anointing. * 4. Gives a priesthood blessing as the Spirit directs. * 5. Closes in the name of Jesus Christ. If a person requests more than one blessing for the same illness, the priesthood holder usually does not need to anoint with oil after the first blessing. Instead, he gives a blessing by the laying on of hands and the authority of the priesthood. ------------------------end quote Here is a link to the same info: LDS.org - Aaronic Priesthood Chapter Detail - Performing Priesthood Ordinances I don't see any need to talk to the EQ pres or the Bishop unles you want to. About once a year we would consecrate oil in Elders Q. and provide small bottles to put some in for each Q member. You might ask your leaders to do that, but don't feel like you have to be supervised by one of your leaders when consecrating oil or annointing / blessing. This is something we can do totally on our own whenever we are moved by the spirit or when someone asks for a blessing. All the information you need is right there on the Church web site. Just follow the instructions and you are good to go. It isn't like a baptism where it must be performed exactly, word for word with witnesses and recorded in the church records. Just follow the main points as listed. Also if you want or need to give a blessing without oil that is fine too. Just don't do the anointing part of the blessing and don't "seal" the anointing (skip step 3 in the actual blessing section) when you give the blessing. Also if you cannot find another Melchizedek priesthood holder to help you you can do the consecrating of the oil, the anointing and the blessing yourself. Notice how it doesn't say it MUST be performed by two or more M. Priesthood holders it says "Normally, two or more Melchizedek Priesthood holders place their hands lightly on the person’s head." Don't forgo giving a blessing just because you can't find someone to help you, but if you can then it is best to involve at least one additional M. Priesthood holder. I would add that there is no need to consecrate an entire bottle of olive oil. A small medicine bottle that is clean with or without a dropper type top, or virtually any water tight container that would hold a few ounces of the oil works well. 2 or three ounces will last a LONG time since all you use is a small drop on the crown of the head each time you perform a blessing. I keep mine in the fridge and warm it up in a bowl of hot water when needed. It will last many years in the fridge. Replace it when it starts to smell significantly different than it did when you first opened it (gone rancid). There is no procedure required for throwing it out, just be respectful in how you handle it. I just pour it into a ziploc bag so it won't be leaking out of the trash bag and throw it in the trash or you can pour it down the drain. Mixing it with hot soapy water will make it less likely to congeal in the pipes during the winter. You can also keep it in the freezer where it will not go rancid for decades, but it would take a while to defrost, so some in the fridge, on your keychain or on the shelf plus a larger container in the freezer is another way to go. The keychain fobs that hold oil are also nice to have. That way you always have some with you. If you keep your keys in your pocket, the heat from your body will cause the oil to go rancid faster than if it is in the fridge or on a shelf so check it maybe twice a year and replace it if it starts to smell bad.
  4. I found the use of the word rapture by some Christians who adhere so strictly to the wording used in the bible somewhat perplexing, since that word is not found in the bible anywhere.
  5. Often they are not actually in there it just shows them as such. I think it has to do with the auto boot time out.
  6. It looks like this whole "Burn the Mormons" thing is catching on, sadly. So far this year Attempted Arson - torching of the LA Temple (the arsonist started a fire outside the temple when he was unable to get in, attempts at entry caught on camera) Successful arson of an LDS chapel in Washington LDS "youth" setting fire to their own building Successful arson - LDS chapel in Utah Marginally successful arson - LDS Chapel in Utah If the trend continues we will see 30 or more LDS buildings burned over the next year, possibly more.
  7. PAF FamilySearch - Personal Ancestral File FamilySearch.org - Family History and Genealogy Records
  8. The way you look at Sushi changes dramatically once you have experienced the "dark side". After one Anisakis event in your life you won't ever want to get close to sushi again.... Parasites Heavy Metal Poisoning Bacterial caused food poisoning Candida backlash after treatment to remove parasites has been performed. All About Worms Dangers of Sushi - What Are the Dangers and Risks of Eating Sushi? EATING RAW FISH - THE DANGERS - NYTimes.com
  9. I didn't see anything about the editorial in that link.... Is this the one it is supposed to refer to? A call for civility following Mormon Apostle Boyd K. Packer’s address | Deseret News And would this be the other page? Mormon Apostle Boyd K. Packer Affirms Heterosexual Marriage | More Good Foundation Blog
  10. Based on the words from the Lord's anointed, it looks like the real reason for MOST divorces or MOST marriages remaining solvent is the following: I am, or my ex was, or both of us were - selfish (divorce) or I / we try to be less selfish (still married) Obviously there are lots of other reasons outside of these two but I agree with the brethren on the statements that most divorces are the result of selfishness on the part of one or both partners. Here are just a few from LDS.org that talk about it. There were a bunch more that basically said the same thing over and over.....emphasis added Pres. Hinckley I have long felt that the greatest factor in a happy marriage is an anxious concern for the comfort and well-being of one’s companion. In most cases selfishness is the leading factor that causes argument, separation, divorce, and broken hearts. LDS.org - Liahona Article - Loyalty Pres. Hinckley again Why all of these broken homes? What happens to marriages that begin with sincere love and a desire to be loyal and faithful and true one to another? There is no simple answer. I acknowledge that. But it appears to me that there are some obvious reasons that account for a very high percentage of these problems. I say this out of experience in dealing with such tragedies. I find selfishness to be the root cause of most of it. I am satisfied that a happy marriage is not so much a matter of romance as it is an anxious concern for the comfort and well-being of one’s companion. LDS.org - Ensign Article - What God Hath Joined Together Elder Oaks Now I speak to married members, especially to any who may be considering divorce. I strongly urge you and those who advise you to face up to the reality that for most marriage problems, the remedy is not divorce but repentance. Often the cause is not incompatibility but selfishness. LDS.org - Ensign Article - Divorce Elder Howard Far too many marriages today end in divorce. Selfishness, sin, and personal convenience often prevail over covenants and commitment. LDS.org - Liahona Article - Eternal Marriage Elder Haight Middle-age divorce is particularly distressing, as it indicates that mature people, who are the backbone of our society, are not working carefully enough to preserve their marriages. Divorces granted to people over forty-five have increased at an alarming rate. When middle-aged people even consider breaking up their marriage—a couple who may have reared their children, who possibly have grandchildren—and now decide to go their separate ways, they need to realize that every divorce is the result of selfishness on the part of one or both. LDS.org - Ensign Article - Marriage and Divorce Elder Burton Personal selfishness is the main reason for the present high divorce rate throughout the world. LDS.org - Ensign Article - The Need for Love
  11. Moroni and his army didn't put down their weapons............it was the bad guys who had to surrender their weapons. There is a HUGE difference.
  12. Wingnut is 100% Correct. Gambling money regardless of where it comes from, lottery, slots or whatever, is considered ill gotten gain according to church doctrine. Not only should you not accept it from any source, if you end up with some you cannot even donate the entire proceeds to the church, nor can you pay tithing on it. If they know where it is coming from your bishop is supposed to refuse it. Just because a state chooses to LEGALIZE gambling for tax purposes it still isn't right. It is still tainted / ill gotten gain and we should not knowingly accept any money from anyone or any source if it came from gambling. In some cases we don't have much of a choice such as if the public schools are funded by gambling revenue, but if it is an optional thing like a scholarship or a gift from someone, and I knew it was from the lottery, I would in no way accept it. I find it pretty sad, though in this day and age not surprising, that so many states (all but Utah and Hawaii the last time I looked) literally victimize their citizens with such a foolish and evil plan as the Lottery to garner revenue for the state coffers. Using it for education makes it that much worse in my book.
  13. When I first received my endowment, we were instructed to leave all of our personal possessions in our lockers including jewelry, pens, wallets, cell phones etc. and to bring nothing with us other than our temple clothes, a watch, wedding ring and in the case of sisters if they wish, one pair of ear rings. (Without question that would also include your personal copy of the scriptures.) Are they going to take them away from you or ask you to leave? Not likely. Should you bring them anyway despite the counsel not to? Of course not. One reason you see scriptures in the chapel when you are waiting for a session is because you aren't supposed to bring anything with you other than your temple clothing .......once a session starts it would not be appropriate to have scriptures, iphones, notepads etc. with you anyway, so just leave them in your locker. Once done with the session, if you want to read a scriptural passage in the celestial room, then borrow one of the books provided.
  14. Try this instead. Seek to know the counsel from the Lord through the Scriptures and His prophets, including the current one, do your best to follow all of it and don't worry what anyone else thinks or says, including the church members or your own family. As for being offended by the actions of others - nobody makes us become offended. It is a choice we make. Learn not to take offense and your life will be much sweeter. Reading this talk might be beneficial. LDS.org - Ensign Article - And Nothing Shall Offend Them