trulykiwi

I agree with Tomk, even the most knowledgable of all members should really not even be talking about this stuff. Even though That talk by Skousen is interesting, and may have points, it is still not scripture and wasn't approved by the 1st presidency. Do you hear them ever talk about such philisophical things. Im not saying Skousen was lying or his words are incorrect.....it's just you can be saved on the milk alone, the meat is extra, but you have to beware in case you delve into something that is not quite true doctrine. Faith, repentance, baptism, gift of the HG, receive blessings of the temple and endure to the end is what counts. Then the Lord himself can teach you greater things when we meet him if not before by revelation.

By the way, it is not Gods way to make earthly bodies in that way, only physical mortal people. You know?

I think again that brings God down to mans level. Peace!

Adam was the first man on earth therefor was started in a different way. I think we can say it is Gods perogitive to do as he wills, not ours to decide how something was done or is done.You see that is why we have a Prophet to direct Gods affairs on earth through revelation, so we don't error. But man can make his own interpretations of things up and thats where people can error because they make it more complicated than it actually is. So in saying that, why can't it be simple that because God is such a dab-hand at creating, could he not do it anyway he wishes!

What are you talking about?

Ha ha that's funny - Remember when Adam was put on Earth his body was still eternal and he and Eve probably weren't ageing, until they ate the fruit of the tree of life, then they became mortal, and would have then started to age. So how could he have possibly been a baby?

Tomk, it is your idea to like to think that was the way, but may not necessarily be the truth, and it doesn't have any relation to what the scripture says! Peace!

Yes but the Bible doesn't say they were made the old fashioned way......Adam was made from the dust and through his nostrils was the breath of life given. Eve was made from one of Adams ribs which was literal, but at the same time symbolic of how much a part of her husband she was. Where do you get 'made the old fashioned way' out of that?

You need to remember that 1. Even the elements obey God, so as Jesus said while on earth, he could make sons of Abraham out of the rocks. He can make a human body by commanding the elements. 2. Adam was next in line to Jehovah in intelligence so he didn't need to figure out the birds and the bees or anything for that matter. He was also inspired by the spirit and had the greatest instruction from heavenly beings. 3. Don't believe too much what people say, the scriptures are sometimes symbolic, but not in this case with the creation. I believe it is pretty literal how he created man. 4. Adam was the first man on earth, so how could he have been born of a Mother if he was the first. Ask the lord in prayer if all else fails, but I am pretty sure the scriptures tell you all you need to know. Cheers guys!

When my husband went on a mission he was told to dump his girlfriend by his stake president so he had no distractions. It did him well! I think you should ask your missionary if it is ok to date other guys, that will tell you where he is at. Better now than later! But let him focus on his mission.

I fully agree with this. I don't think "I love you" is something that should be 'nagged' over. It should come from the heart at the right time. But let him continue with his mission. Pale is right - he's dedicated his life to the Lord for 2 years... let him do that and solely focus on that. I'm sure a mission is very hard work and one would need to remain focussed rather than constantly be reminded of things/people they are missing. To be unfocussed will make him ineffective.... tell her to be grateful for the letters she is getting :)

Thank you all for your replies, you're all right and I'm so grateful for your support and uplifting comments :) Thank you, it means a lot. I guess it's just one of those things that I will come to accept. Kind of like my family - I must not judge them, but love them. However, in regards to this particular friend - well, like you all have mentioned, I'm probably better off not knowing someone that judges me for this kind of thing. It's a little hard as we have just moved 8 hours away from where we were and my husband and I have just started at a new ward - we know no-one here in this new city, but we enjoy our new ward. Don't really know anyone there yet... but I guess that will take time :) I would love to make some friends on here, to chat with, share good times and troubling times and continue to increase my knowledge with other LDS. So.. yeah feel free to say 'hi' and PM if you want :) But I might just stick around this forum as you're all so nice and it's great to meet a great little LDS community - even if it is online! lol

I just wanted to post here because I'm feeling pretty down right now. I have (what I thought was) a very good friend and whilst we catch up every now and then, we mostly keep in touch via Facebook. Well today he had something in his status about 'the dark side' etc and how he was heading there... so I said "but light is knowledge, my friend"... I think it was pretty light hearted, I wasn't getting all religious and heavy on him... I'm not into pushing my faith onto anyone else. But then he replied back implying that the light side is for goody goody boring people and he'd "rather be on the dark side as there's people he wants to meet there and what is the point of knowledge when you're dead anyway". So I kinda took offence to that and told him so - and consequently he deleted me!! I'm just shocked - mainly at his lack of respect for my thoughts and feelings. I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... and shouldn't be judged for it. But, gosh i just feel totally belittled and made fun of and considered "boring" and "a goody goody" because of what I am!! I'm sorry to go on... I just feel really sad right now. I try not to judge people and I don't like to be judged - I get enough of that from my family (who are anti-mormon!), but my husband and I are doing really well in the church now... I'm finally where I want to be... and striving hard to be better.... but I'm happy, we are happy. It's just hard now that it seems I have lost a friendship because of my faith. I wish I could show people like that what the truth is. I wish they could just understand a little of the truth. I wish I could show them that there is life after death.... that by doing good and striving to be like Jesus Christ will make you a whole lot happier and be much more fulfilling than striving for worldly things......