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I've never had one....... *sniff, sniff*

It's not a sign, just a decorative statement.

Huge statues like that creep me out.

My 9 and 7 yr olds also copy my behavior. When they become teens though it is a whole other story. I read your post to say that if my daughter is being snooty it must be because I am . That is simply not true. My concern is that LDS teens are not always accepting of others. That bothers me, because I know heavenly father loves us all the same. I would also have to agree with dove, that in their teenage years kids are influenced more by peers than my parents. I want my kids to learn that they do not have to live like their peers to accept their peers.

I am probably one of the least snooty, least judgemental people in the world. Kids do learn from example, however they are also individuals, with their own agency and personalities. I think that's a somewhat unfair statement to make. Many behaviors are learned, but I don't think all behavior can be blamed on the parent. I use to smoke, drink and I've done more than my fair share of illegal substances. So No I have never taught my kids that people who do are bad.If I did that would be hypocritical, don't you think?

New song describing my mood today.... Disturbed by Limp Bizkit, Cyress hill Metallica and Korn The night I just had at work would leave anyone disturbed.

All moms are a raving nut case when it comes to the safety and well being of our kids.

My dad has 16 siblings, some who are married outside of their race to various nationalities. I am the only LDS member in my family, needless to say with a family this large (over 80 first cousins) my kids see lots of different ways of life. I have taught them to accept all. I think thats why my oldest daughters opinions of others leaves me some what taken a back. I agree its the same principle as what you mentioned above. She seems to accept family just fine, but judges others at school or on television that do not share her values harshly. Its a fine line it seems, to teach them to never let go of their own values and at the same time expect them to accept others as they are.

I appreciate everyone's opinion on this. I haven't noticed this to be a problem with my youngest 2 children. My oldest is 14 and she is the one that I have to watch. I am constantly reminding her that we are all children of Heavenly Father and his love for her or her less modest peers does not differ. It's not just her though, I have seen the same thing with many young women and a few of the young men as well. I think a lot of it goes back to what wingnut mentioned, humility. I guess my main objective is to be sure that my kids are living the gospel while at the same time not pushing others away from it, with a holier than thou attitude.

This thread will probably offend someone, which isn't my intention. Its a very real question to an observation. We teach our children to be in the world and not of the world. At very young ages we teach them about modesty, chastity and virtue. All things we should be teaching them. However I have noticed not with just my daughter but with several young women that they expect everyone to share their values and when they dont they can be rather snooty. I have made an effort to teach my kids that not everyone will share their values, it doesn't make them bad people, just people with a different set of values. Is it possible that we have accidentally taught our children that they are "better" than others?

I had no idea Bob Dylan wrote that song. I will have to youtube his version. I am a big fan of Adele, I like her voice. I heard Garth Brooks singing it a few weeks ago and thought wow who is that singing, nice but I like adele better.

Make you feel my love by Adele When the rain is blowing in your face And the whole world is on your case I would offer you a warm embrace To make you feel my love When the evening shadows and the stars appear And there is no one there to dry your tears I could hold you for a million years To make you feel my love I know you haven't made your mind up yet but I would never do you wrong Ive known it from the moment that we met No doubt in my mind where you belong Id go hungry id go black and blue Id go crawling down the avenue No theres nothing that I wouldn't do To make you feel my love The storms are raging on the rolling sea and on the highway of regret though winds of change are blowing wild and free You ain't seen nothing like me yet I could make you happy Make your dreams come true nothing that i wouldn't do To make you feel my love Go to the ends of the earth for you to make you feel my love

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let me start by saying I wish you the best of luck with the situation. I'm sure its very hard. The reason I asked how old you guys were is because people grow and change so much over the years especially if they are really young when they get married. Is it at all possible that she is looking for a way out and will use any excuse? maybe she feels trapped and thats not your fault, just how it is. I have no advice, but I think I understand where she is coming from.

Im curious, how old were you guys when you got married? ohh and yes I do have a reason for asking.

I agree with John Doe. Late in the evenings I strip down to my garments, my kids don't seem to even notice. Then again my door is always open and its nothing for my kids to walk in when im naked. I have 2 girls 13 and 9 and a 7 yr old son. My son walks in on me all the time he doesn't even pay attention. I will soon have to start shutting the door around him though just as a matter of comfort for me. My husband is a little more modest than me. He doesn't chill in his garments like I do, but if he needs to get up with the kids in the middle of the night, his concern isn't covering his garments. My family is not LDS so when my sister or other family members visit I make it a point to keep my garments fully covered just because of the sacredness.

I too am a bit top heavy, I like the mesh tops because they breathe better. I wear a full cup garment. I always wear my bra over but have seriously considered changing it to under. For some reason I feel like doing that would mean I was doing something wrong lol. At the same time I cheat with the Garment bottoms. I am 5'9 almost 5'10 and I buy petite bottoms so they will go a little higher on the leg.

See, I think it all gets very tricky and is left up to interpretation. In my case, there may very well have been a better way to handle the situation. However, this man is a regular and I live in a small town. So being diplomatic in how I handled the situation wasn't only important for my safety that night, but every night that I work.another commandment that I think of is To honor thy mother and father. Meaning we are not to disobey, right? Now if I leave home and tell my kids Do not leave the house while I am gone for any reason and then my house catches on fire while I'm gone, Are my kids to disobey me and leave or honor what I have told them and endanger their lives. I know this seems like a silly comparison but I am making it because I think its important that we all understand and even question exactly what the commandments are telling us and weather it is okay to ever bend them.

Wow, maybe i'm drunk. I thought you said like drunk people not lie to drunk people.

I didn't say I didn't like him. Though his Girlfriend got a bit irritated with him when he kept asking for my number, lol. Besides Godless, you are one of my fave ppl ever, drunk or sober.

I did think about that hemi, but he would already have been gone and I didnt want to take chances. My main priority was keeping him off the road and keeping myself safe.

I work 3rd shift at a gas station and a few nights ago this guy comes in. It is obvious he is drunk, he even mentioned he was. So he goes outside and his car won't crank. The battery is dead. So he comes inside to ask if I have jumper cables. I'm left with three options. 1. Jump off his car 2. Tell him I don't have any 3. Tell him yes I have them but that he is too drunk to drive, And put myself in the position of arguing with a drunk while all alone at 3 am. Without much thought, I chose to tell him I didn't have any. We teach our kids it's never okay to lie. But is it sometimes necessary?

I already did

I think it is great that you are thinking? I personally don't think nearly enough.

I see lots of dark colored suits, which is fine because the baby blue makes me think i'm stuck in the 70's. However, I would like to see more color in the shirts. Why is it always white? Whats wrong with blue or pink. Before any of you men comment on the pink let me just say, It takes a real man to wear pink.