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Be that as it may the Official Church recognition comes to light in "The Living Christ: The Testimony of the Apostles The Living Christ: The Testimony of the Apostles The Living Christ: The Testimony of the Apostles "The Living Christ: The Testimony of the Apostles," The Living Christ: The Testimony of the Apostles, (2000) As we commemorate the birth of Jesus Christ two millennia ago, we offer our testimony of the reality of His matchless life and the infinite virtue of His great atoning sacrifice. None other has had so profound an influence upon all who have lived and will yet live upon the earth. He was the Great Jehovah of the Old Testament, the Messiah of the New. Under the direction of His Father, He was the creator of the earth. “All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made” (John 1:3). Though sinless, He was baptized to fulfill all righteousness. He “went about doing good” (Acts 10:38), yet was despised for it. His gospel was a message of peace and goodwill. He entreated all to follow His example. He walked the roads of Palestine, healing the sick, causing the blind to see, and raising the dead. He taught the truths of eternity, the reality of our premortal existence, the purpose of our life on earth, and the potential for the sons and daughters of God in the life to come.......................... Of the Living Christ, the Prophet Joseph wrote: “His eyes were as a flame of fire; the hair of his head was white like the pure snow; his countenance shone above the brightness of the sun; and his voice was as the sound of the rushing of great waters, even the voice of Jehovah, saying: “I am the first and the last; I am he who liveth, I am he who was slain; I am your advocate with the Father” (D&C 110:3–4)................. “For we saw him, even on the right hand of God; and we heard the voice bearing record that he is the Only Begotten of the Father— “That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God” (D&C 76:22–24). We declare in words of solemnity that His priesthood and His Church have been restored upon the earth—“built upon the foundation of … apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone” (Ephesians 2:20). We testify that He will someday return to earth. “And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together” (Isaiah 40:5). He will rule as King of Kings and reign as Lord of Lords, and every knee shall bend and every tongue shall speak in worship before Him. Each of us will stand to be judged of Him according to our works and the desires of our hearts. We bear testimony, as His duly ordained Apostles—that Jesus is the Living Christ, the immortal Son of God. He is the great King Immanuel, who stands today on the right hand of His Father. He is the light, the life, and the hope of the world. His way is the path that leads to happiness in this life and eternal life in the world to come. God be thanked for the matchless gift of His divine Son. Signed::::: So basically it wouldn't even matter if Elohim went by Jehovah it's Jesus Christ, the Firstborn, the Only Begotten Son whose Church we belong to and have to pass judgment with to enter The Kingdom of God. This borders on contention so I will refrain from further fruitless discussion.

Which one can not prove either way.

You're getting names and titles mixed up. Much as people mix up the power of the Holy Ghost and the gift of the Holy Ghost. Try to read this and you might understand the nuances. The Father and the Son - Ensign Apr. 2002 A Doctrinal Exposition by the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles From Improvement Era, Aug. 1916, 934–42; capitalization, punctuation, paragraphing, and spelling standardized. 1. “Father” as Literal Parent 2. “Father” as Creator A second scriptural meaning of “Father” is that of Creator; e.g., in passages referring to any one of the Godhead as “the Father of the heavens and of the earth, and all things that in them are” (Ether 4:7; see also Alma 11:38–39; Mosiah 15:4). God is not the Father of the earth as one of the worlds in space, nor of the heavenly bodies in whole or in part, not of the inanimate objects and the plants and the animals upon the earth, in the literal sense in which He is the Father of the spirits of mankind. Therefore, scriptures that refer to God in any way as the Father of the heavens and the earth are to be understood as signifying that God is the Maker, the Organizer, the Creator of the heavens and the earth. With this meaning, as the context shows in every case, Jehovah, who is Jesus Christ the Son of Elohim, is called “the Father,” and even “the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth” (see passages before cited and also Mosiah 16:15). With analogous meaning Jesus Christ is called “The Everlasting Father” (Isa. 9:6; compare 2 Ne. 19:6). The descriptive titles “Everlasting” and “Eternal” in the foregoing texts are synonymous. That Jesus Christ, whom we also know as Jehovah, was the executive of the Father, Elohim, in the work of creation is set forth in the book Jesus the Christ, chapter 4 [by James E. Talmage]. Jesus Christ, being the Creator, is consistently called the Father of heaven and earth in the sense explained above; and since His creations are of eternal quality He is very properly called the Eternal Father of heaven and earth. 3. Jesus Christ the “Father” of Those Who Abide in His Gospel 4. Jesus Christ the “Father” by Divine Investiture of Authority

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I'm not sure why I have to repeat this AGAIN! but...... The greatest interest in this theory came after his death. Most Church authorities contemporary with President Young had little or nothing to say on the subject. The two best-known exceptions were Heber C. Kimball, who mentioned it in several sermons, and Apostle Orson Pratt, who openly voiced his rejection of the concept. Following President Young's death, with the exception of several obscure statements, no Church authority has advocated the idea. During the last decade of the 19th Century, interest in the subject elicited response from such authorities as Wilford Woodruff, George Q. Cannon and Joseph F. Smith. These men acknowledged that they were personally familiar with President Young's theory but discouraged teaching and speculating upon the subject. The status of the "Adam-God theory" was summed up in 1897 in a private letter outlined by President Wilford Woodruff and written by Apostle Joseph F. Smith: President Young no doubt expressed his personal opinion or views upon the subject. What he said was not given as revelation or commandment from the Lord. The doctrine was never submitted to the councils of the Priesthood nor to the Church for approval or ratification, and was never formally or otherwise accepted by the Church. It is therefore in no sense binding upon the Church. I concur with their findings. And so does the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Doctrine and Covenants Section 38 1 Thus saith the Lord your God, even Jesus Christ, the Great I Am, Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the same which looked upon the wide expanse of eternity, and all the seraphic hosts of heaven, before the world was made; 2 The same which knoweth all things, for all things are present before mine eyes; 3 I am the same which spake, and the world was made, and all things came by me. I take this to mean that even if Organic Evolution were true then God (who created all things and knoweth all things, for all things are present before His eyes) was it's creator and anything "created" from evolution would have then been "created" by God, the Creator of EVERYTHING. So if anything any kind of "Evolution" is basically "Creationism in Progress". But then why would God use evolution on somethings and not on Whales and Birds of the Sky and other animals mentioned in Genesis. How do we know that signs we identify as evolution weren't already part of the material the Gods used to organize the Earth. You're right, where's the living proof? Where are the samples. Where is the proof that Genesis and the Doctrine and Covenants - and the Temple teachings are wrong. Not theory not conjecture but proof and proof that it wasn't caused by God's Creationism in the first place.

The Father and the Son - Ensign Apr. 2002 The Father and the Son * April 2002 Ensign "None of these considerations, however, can change in the least degree the solemn fact of the literal relationship of Father and Son between Elohim and Jesus Christ. Among the spirit children of Elohim the firstborn was and is Jehovah or Jesus Christ..." I say we do not know enough (or any) of Heavenly Father's heritage to say if He was the Firstborn of his Heavenly Parents. But as far as our pre-mortal existence Heavenly Father is the Father of all our Spirits and Jehovah (Christ) is the Firstborn and the Only Begotten Son. Basically Firstborn is a Title but also used as a name to identify the Son of Heavenly Father. Jehovah or Christ has many many more Names & Titles.

Never!

One word of advice. Removing your name from he records of the Church will NOT cause all the confusion to go away. You will have burned bridges that you may regret at a more mature age.

ALL living as Spirits in our pre-mortal existence are children of our Heavenly Father. This includes 1/3 that followed Lucifer and the 2/3's who chose to follow Heavenly Father's plan and go through a mortal probation so that we could receive bodies and continue our progression to become like our Heavenly Father. Fundamental to Our Faith - Ensign Jan. 2011 Fundamental to Our Faith By Elder Dallin H. Oaks 2. The Purpose of Mortal Life My second fundamental premise concerns the purpose of mortal life. This follows from our understanding of the purposes of God the Eternal Father and concerns our destiny as His children. Our theology begins with the assurance that we lived as spirits before we came to this earth. It affirms that this mortal life has a purpose. And it teaches that our highest aspiration is to become like our heavenly parents, which will empower us to perpetuate our family relationships throughout eternity. We were placed on earth to acquire a physical body and—through the Atonement of Jesus Christ and by obedience to the laws and ordinances of His gospel—to qualify for the glorified celestial condition and relationships that are called exaltation or eternal life.

There is a distinct difference between the power of the Holy Ghost and the gift of the Holy Ghost. Holy Ghost (Bible Dictionary for an explanation)

I agree. We are ALL spirit children of our Heavenly Parents - Elohim and his wife., So we are all BROTHERS AND SISTERS not Grandparents etc as there was no procreation without bodies. So everyone come to Earth including Christ are our brothers or sisters.

Egypt military says it has dissolved parliament, suspended constitution, will run country for 6 months or until elections

The Firstborn is Jesus Christ and the Church of the Firstborn is Christ's Church (LDS)

I'm not sure I get your point! Mine was that Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael are not Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. What was quoted has been debunked and denied/not accepted certainly Christ's name is revered (more sacred than) over Adam's or Eve's.

Ex-Israeli Official: Mideast Dominoes Point to War Friday, 11 Feb 2011 06:56 PM By David A. Patten George Birnbaum, an international political consultant who once served as chief of staff to former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, is warning that a domino-style collapse of moderate Arab regimes could lead Israel to war. Birnbaum, an expert in global politics, cited Friday’s collapse of Hosni Mubarak in Egypt and the growing turmoil in nearby Jordan as ominous signs for Israel................. ----------- Obama Faces Diplomatic Nightmare After Mubarak Debacle Even as chants of “Egypt is free! Egypt is free!” rocked downtown Cairo on Friday, President Barack Obama moved to limit the diplomatic damage stemming from the administration’s response to Egypt’s unexpected lurch toward democracy. After weeks of criticism that his policies were either too bold or too timid in support of pro-democracy throngs teeming into Cairo’s Tahrir Square, Obama firmly sided with the Egyptian protesters on Friday. ............ [secretary of State] Hillary Clinton’s first comment was that the Egyptian government is stable. And everyone living in Egypt could see loud and clear that it was by no means stable at all.” Said attributed the administration’s vacillation to “a myth” that the Muslim Brotherhood would take over Egypt if Mubarak fell.

I can't see Adam-God or any God coming down to Earth to sin. I don't think that would be possible. Also Brigham Young stated (incorrectly) "It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael, these three forming a quorum, as in all heavenly bodies, and in organizing element, perfectly represented in the Deity, as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost." The greatest interest in this theory came after his death. Most Church authorities contemporary with President Young had little or nothing to say on the subject. The two best-known exceptions were Heber C. Kimball, who mentioned it in several sermons, and Apostle Orson Pratt, who openly voiced his rejection of the concept. Following President Young's death, with the exception of several obscure statements, no Church authority has advocated the idea. During the last decade of the 19th Century, interest in the subject elicited response from such authorities as Wilford Woodruff, George Q. Cannon and Joseph F. Smith. These men acknowledged that they were personally familiar with President Young's theory but discouraged teaching and speculating upon the subject. The status of the "Adam-God theory" was summed up in 1897 in a private letter outlined by President Wilford Woodruff and written by Apostle Joseph F. Smith: President Young no doubt expressed his personal opinion or views upon the subject. What he said was not given as revelation or commandment from the Lord. The doctrine was never submitted to the councils of the Priesthood nor to the Church for approval or ratification, and was never formally or otherwise accepted by the Church. It is therefore in no sense binding upon the Church.

6 - Dwight

I heard enough from the video of the 'cloning' of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints with supposed differences which really weren't differences or differences that weren't even explained or answered along with other bumbling attempts at explaining his so called new testament of Jesus Christ, which by the way adds absolutely nothing to our knowledge. Why people can entertain such nonsense is beyond me. When are our LDS leaders going to let us in on this, oh they don't know about it yet? or they know about it and are keeping silent. I'll read it if and when President Monson announces it in conference.

Fine I can make up my mind on my own and TRASH the Book and the false prophet without seeking out the best and most informed source you can find that believes and champions the “Book of Jeraneck” and first learn all you can from that source. Then set about to discern as best you can the value the book can bring to you. And I guess I don't have to - Do this first!

I'm only hoping that all this is in preparation for Egypt's conversion to the Gospel of which Isaiah spoke of. Like the song says we could all use a 'little good news'.

Sorry your way attempts to take away our free agency. I fought in Heaven to retain my free agency and I'll do the same here on earth. So if you're offended by our "TRASHING' you might want to sit this one out.

I don't have womb for desert.

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