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Ron Paul: US is World's Biggest Counterfeiter Ron Paul: US is World's Biggest Counterfeiter By Greg Brown Texas House Republican and former presidential candidate Ron Paul says the world could soon wake up to realize that the U.S. government is the “biggest counterfeit machine in the history of the world.” That realization would trigger a collapse in the dollar and could quickly lead to hyperinflation, Paul warned. The crisis is “now,” not something for our children or grandchildren to face, he said...... I'm not sure there is more time to give and it might already be to late.

Obama's trillions dwarf Bush's 'dangerous' spending Obama's trillions dwarf Bush's 'dangerous' spending | Washington Examiner Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News. If we give Obama more time there will be no more we.

Well said.I do think we're in kind of the same boat that we were in when Jimmy Carter was the President. He never could get a handle on the economy and everything he tried failed. Now, with the inexperience of Obama and the 'Lame Duck' condition with unemployment topping out at the highest point since April (9.8) and Obama's Debt Commission Proposing $1 Trillion in Tax Hikes, I'm not sure the economy will start a recovery while Obama is in office.

Thursday, 02 Dec 2010 07:32 PM Left Pressuring Obama to Reject Deal on Bush Tax Cuts By David A. Patten A controversial new ad campaign is hitting the airwaves to pressure President Barack Obama into rejecting any compromise with Republicans that would extend all Bush-era tax cuts in time to prevent a massive tax hike from taking effect automatically at year’s end. On Thursday, the lame-duck House voted to allow the expiration of tax breaks for household income above $250,000. But even Democrats admit that the bill, widely viewed as a bid to win favor with the Democratic base, is dead on arrival in the Senate, where all 42 GOP senators have said they oppose it.

Start a thread on the subject and I'll post to it.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A critical compromise to head off a year-end tax increase for millions of Americans took shape in private talks between the White House and congressional Republicans Thursday, and an extension of unemployment benefits appeared likely to become part of any deal. GOPUSA » News » Compromise to head off tax increases takes shape

Left Pressuring Obama to Reject Deal on Bush Tax Cuts Left Pressuring Obama to Reject Deal on Bush Tax Cuts

The lame duck session of Congress is back in business as legislators return from the Thanksgiving holidays. Taxes, spending bills, and a host of other issues sit waiting to be addressed, but what's actually getting done? GOPUSA » The Loft » Lame Ducks are quacking, but what's getting done?

In much the same fashion GOPUSA » The Loft » Democrats and Taxes: Another Nail in their Coffins

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Boehner Calls Tax Bill 'Chicken Crap' Boehner Calls Tax Bill 'Chicken Crap' Thursday, 02 Dec 2010 03:05 PM Article Font Size WASHINGTON (AP) — The tax cut bill considered by the House on Thursday isn't merely disappointing, it's "chicken crap." And Rep. Rob Bishop's three-piece suit? "I told Mr. Bishop on the way in that just because he inherited this suit from his grandfather didn't mean he had to wear it," House Republican leader John Boehner teased his friend Thursday. "But his hair looks good." Thus sayeth the next speaker of the House, purveyor of a far more cheeky style than his proper predecessor, Speaker Nancy Pelosi...........

House Passes Bill to Extend Middle-Class Tax Cuts Thursday, 02 Dec 2010 02:12 PM By David A. Patten Outgoing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi won a temporary victory in her last-ditch bid to kill the Bush tax cuts for wealthier Americans Thursday, as House Democrats passed a bill that would extend Bush-era tax breaks for middle-class Americans while cutting them off for wealthier Americans. Pelosi’s triumph by a margin of 234 to 188 votes is likely to be short-lived, however. In the Senate, all 42 Republicans have vowed to oppose the bill, meaning it is effectively dead on arrival in the Senate. The legislation would extend tax breaks for most Americans, while raising taxes on the income that wealthier families earn above $250,000 per household. Critics blasted the vote as an exercise in political theatrics meant to appease the Democratic base, at the expense of providing clarity to small-business owners deciding whether to boost their payrolls in 2011. “There’s a reason why Nancy Pelosi is the most unpopular politician in America,” pollster Frank Luntz said on Fox News immediately after the vote. “It’s because she doesn’t represent the will and the wishes of the American people. There’s a reason why the Democrats lost 63 seats, and yet it’s like the election never took place.” Incoming GOP House Speaker John Boehner used a barnyard epithet, “chicken crap,” to describe the vote. He also said it undermines the president’s efforts to reach a compromise that will allow the tax breaks to continue for two years. Twenty Democrats broke ranks with their party to oppose the controversial bill. That compares to the 33 who defected in a test vote earlier in the day. Economists warn that the impasse over tax cuts being advanced by the liberal House leadership could sow chaos for businesses and individuals alike, with fewer than 30 days left on the calendar before the tax breaks expire. The Treasury Department needs to know within the next two weeks whether the rates will be extended, sources say. Otherwise, they will have to publish tax tables reflecting the higher rates, because the Bush tax cuts are scheduled to expire at year's end. The H&R Block Tax Institute has estimated that a married couple earning $80,000 a year would receive nearly $500 less per month because higher withholding, unless the tax breaks are extended in time, according to Bush strategist Karl Rove. In a Wall Street Journal op-ed Thursday, Rove slammed Pelosi for “dogmatic rigidity and unquenchable passion for class warfare.” If nothing else, the looming prospect of a huge tax increase threatens to play Grinch to retailers’ hopes for positive spending trends during the holidaysSeason. Already, small-business owners are grousing that they don’t know what their tax and profit outlooks are — two factors that have a strong impact on hiring decisions. Wall Street Journal editor and business analyst Steven Moore tells Newsmax that Thursday’s vote is just “a ruse” by Pelosi to save face with her party’s left. “I’ve never seen anything like this in my 27 years of covering Capitol Hill, that we’ve seen such irresponsible behavior by a speaker,” Moore tells Newsmax. “You know, at this point people are basically going to have to throw out their taxes twice next year. “The IRS has already said they can’t change the forms, they’re saying this is going to cause undue confusion and it’s going to make it hard for people to do economic planning,” he says. The uncertainty from the tax code being used as a political football is becoming more serious with each passing day, Moore says. “Right now as we speak, we’re what — 29 days from the start of the year,” he tells Newsmax. “And investors don’t know what the tax rates are going to be, workers don’t know what the tax rates are going to be, corporations don’t know what the taxes are going to be, and small businesses don’t know what the tax rates are going to be. “So it makes it impossible to do any kind of planning for 2011 at this point. Is it any wonder that employers aren’t hiring workers?” he says. Andrew Moylan, government affairs director at the National Taxpayers Union, tells Newsmax that Thursday’s vote provides a vivid illustration of why voters are so frustrated with Washington, as reflected in the GOP midterm landslide. “We’ve had a decade at this point where we’ve known exactly what was going to happen with these tax breaks that Congress had passed,” Moylan says. “And yet we’re taking it right down to the wire. That could have some serious economic implications, a lot of paperwork implications for the IRS. “We have trillions of dollars worth of tax hikes on the table, and there is this uncertainty that’s out there, and we have a matter of a couple of weeks now before these hikes are going to become law if Congress doesn’t act,” Moylan says. “So this clock is ticking and what happens at the end of it is not going to make anybody happy.” Just some of the fallout if the tax cuts are allowed to expire during the economic doldrums: * The 10, 25, 28, 33, and 35 percent brackets would all rise, costing taxpayers about $157 billion a year. The top rate would be 39.6 percent. * The relief provided by the alternative minimum tax, which saves taxpayers about $66 billion a year, would expire. * Rates for married couples would jump substantially. The price tag to them: $32 billion annually. * Investors could be socked with $35 billion in additional costs, as taxes rise automatically on capital gains and dividends. * Tax credits for children and college tuition would expire, costing some $27.5 billion more a year. * The estate tax, often called the “death tax,” would return to previous levels. Heirs would have to shell out another $26 billion a year. President Barack Obama has signaled that he would be open to extending all the Bush-era tax breaks temporarily, but he appears to be at odds with the leaders of his party in the lame-duck Congress. Although the consensus is that a last-minute deal will be struck on the tax-break extensions, Moore says it’s anyone’s guess at this point. “This has created incredible uncertainty for people,” he tells Newsmax. "And it’s a case study for why we need a flat tax, because we don’t need the federal government and Congress monkeying around with the tax code every year."

Just google House extends Bush-era tax cuts for families making under $250,000

House extends Bush-era tax cuts for families making under $250,000 a year; Senate GOP pushing extension for all incomes.

G_d using mutations - I'll have to really pray about that one. Good luck with selling that. I's been fun but not fun enough to stay. Before I go were you guys trying to punk me are we on TV, is this being recorded?

What is the gravity on the moon?

It's about human evolution, teachings within the temple and exalting ordinances. "accepting literally the Adam and Eve teachings learned in his endowment ceremony," And I think that would be that G_D created Adam and Even and thus man.

First off the thread is about whether man was divinely created by The Creator or evolved from evolutionary garbage like slime. Sure man change eye colors etc but man was created man and will always be man. He can progress into Godhood but that is through acts and not mutations or DNA enhancements.

Ah! I love it when somebody tries to make something big out of an innocent edit. Kind of reminds me of the Lawyers ganging up on Christ trying to snare him. Interesting and telling. It was being edited during any response not that it matters. All you have to do is reread, not to hard for most to do. So see there we do agree. I don't cling to either theory either. I accept that if He wanted to plant a whole different set of laws unto us which included evolution by his knowledge of the Truth, by his Voice alone, he could. I accept that He can do whatever He wants, only we don't have the full rhyme or reason yet. Maybe that information is in the sealed part of the Book of Mormon or in the Records kept by the Ten Tribes, maybe we won't ever know on this side of the veil. Secondly: But I will take the word of Righteous men in Christ's Church any day over an Atheist like Darwin. I don't know, you don't know, only a few privileged in history, that have in fact seen the past and future but couldn't pass that information onto us. Yes, folly to accept every word that's why I read and study both sides and make up my own mind. And not that it matters but my doubt about the moon goes way back to the early 1970's way before any conspiracy was born.

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Still can't engender a new species from it. Always will be a man, white or black.

Don't be it concerns you not, Error.

Show some evidence then. And your IDIOTIC accusations show the kind of judgmental lack of character that you have. The one thing that they could have done to prove they landed they didn't do. Why do you think that was. Repentance is what people like you need for being judgmental when Christ teaches you not to be. You can look up the rest as it sound like a good exercise for you. You might learn something, just maybe. And let's see, you cling to an unproven theory and I cling to an unproven theory. And there's something wrong with my logic? Nice try, nice try. At least I have the Church leaders word that evolution is lunacy!! Your personal attacks certainly detract from your credibility I must say.

And you actually believe we did? Need I say more?

Maybe completely off the point, but it kinda reminds me of the life story of the author of my most favorite song (almost) Amazing Grace. Moves me, there's always hope.