GeneC

You have to think primitive about my list and why some items are left off. Shovel Knife Fishing gear Ammo Magnesium fire starter (25,000 starts) would be what I would buy. Of course that's if I already had a gun/rifle and a Survival Book.

President Obama signs $858 billion measure that extends tax cuts for two years, unemployment benefits for 13 months.

-- Senate passes bill to extend tax cuts and unemployment benefits. House to vote Thursday.

Defying President Obama, House Democrats vote not to bring up tax deal he negotiated with GOP in its current form.

Exactly that's why my post stated:: in the Council in Heaven, Heavenly Father presented his plan of salvation and chose a Savior for us, Jesus Christ was chosen in the Council in Heaven to be our Savior; we chose to follow him

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Not a done deal Reid, Senate Democrats Threaten to Block Obama Deal on Tax Cuts Reid, Senate Democrats Threaten to Block Obama Deal on Tax Cuts

"The Great Council in Heaven" and In the vision recorded in Abraham 3, the Lord showed Abraham the Council in Heaven that was held before the earth was created "Lesson 2: “Thou Wast Chosen Before Thou Wast Born”," Old Testament: Gospel Doctrine Teacher’s Manual, (2001), 5–8 Both about the premortal Council in Heaven - LDS.org

The purpose of the Council(s) were multifold. Heavenly Father explained His plan, chose a Savior and let us choose to follow Christ or Lucifer and the preordaining accomplished and special abilities received. In the vision recorded in Abraham 3, the Lord showed Abraham the Council in Heaven that was held before the earth was created. (Note that latter-day prophets have indicated that the Council in Heaven was a series of meetings rather than a single meeting.) Who was present at this council? (Heavenly Father and his spirit children.) What do we learn about this council from Abraham 3:22–23? in the Council in Heaven, Heavenly Father presented his plan of salvation and chose a Savior for us, Jesus Christ was chosen in the Council in Heaven to be our Savior; we chose to follow him. We went to a meeting of the spirit children of God. All the noble and great ones who would live on the earth were there—future prophets, Apostles, presidents, mothers and fathers, and all those who would come to earth in the last days to teach the gospel to the people of the world. Many of those who followed Heavenly Father were ordained to do special things on the earth. Of course, we would still have our agency; we would still need to choose whether or not we would do these things. Each of us also received special abilities, which we could increase by sharing them with others. Heavenly Father provided everything we would need to become like him. https://lds.org/liahona/1984/04/the-great-council-in-heaven?lang=eng Old Testament: Gospel Doctrine Teacher’s Manual Lesson 2: “Thou Wast Chosen Before Thou Wast Bornâ€

-- President Obama holds briefing day after announcing deal on taxes. Watch live on CNN.com and CNN TV at 2:20 pm ET.

Obama OKs Two-Year Renewal of Bush Cuts In a surprise move, President Barack Obama compromised with congressional Republicans, allowing for the Bush tax cuts to be fully extended for two years. The extension includes cuts for higher-income individuals, and keeps the 15 percent rate for dividends and capital gains. The deal also includes a one-time cut in Social Security taxes. For Full Coverage, Go Here Now Obama Said to Agree on Extending Tax Cuts for Two Years

-- WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been arrested in London, CNN confirms.

I guess I don't get the gist of your question. Heavenly Father's plan was for us to choose good or evil. Lucifer's plan was choose good or good, or in other words no choice. But if you are saying it was God's plan and mean our Heavenly Father's plan and that He called the Council in Heaven so that He could explain His plan at the council, then well yes. "One of the spirits among us was like God. He offered to serve Heavenly Father and all the spirit children by being the Savior. This was Jesus." The Great Council in Heaven "The Great Council in Heaven", Liahona, Apr. 1984, 1 (This story is found in Abr. 3:21–28, Moses 4:1–4.)

He wouldn't, he couldn't for that was Lucifer's plan.

I've not heard that God created out of nothing. Creation https://lds.org/study/topics/creation?lang=eng Under the direction of Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ created the heavens and the earth (see Mosiah 3:8; Moses 2:1). From scripture revealed through the Prophet Joseph Smith, we know that in the work of the Creation, the Lord organized elements that had already existed (see Abraham 3:24). He did not create the world “out of nothing,” as some people believe. I've also not heard it said that God "created spirits of men", we know we are the Spiritual Children of our Heavenly Father per Henry B. Eyring "Heavenly Father wants and needs our help to bring His spirit children home to Him again" but God did create spirits of everything else at least as Moses 3 states 5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew. For I, the Lord God, created all things, of which I have spoken, spiritually, before they were naturally upon the face of the earth. For I, the Lord God,...... He might not have created the Intelligence but certainly the Spirit per Moses.

"This excerpt is from Brigham Young - Journal of Discourses - Subject United Order and explains that all have rights and why infringement of those rights is wrong. This kingdom is the kingdom that Daniel spoke of, which was to be set up in the last days; it is the kingdom that is not to be given to another people; it is the kingdom that is to be held by the servants of God, to rule the nations of the earth, to send forth those laws and ordinances that shall be suitable and that shall apply themselves to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; that will apply themselves to the mother Church, “the holy Catholic Church;” they will commend themselves to every Protestant Church upon the earth; they will commend themselves to every class of infidels, and will throw their protecting arms around the whole human family, protecting them in their rights. If they wish to worship a white dog, they will have the privilege; if they wish to worship the sun they will have the privilege; if they wish to worship a man they will have the privilege, and if they wish to worship the “unknown God” they will have the privilege. This kingdom will circumscribe them all and will issue laws and ordinances to protect them in their rights—every right that every people, sect and person can enjoy, and the full liberty that God has granted to them without molestation. "

I believe God created all things and sin is the opposition to God's laws and it is necessary for righteousness to exist. 1 Jn. 3:4 sin is the transgression of the law Nephi 2 says: 12 Wherefore, it must needs have been created for a thing of naught; wherefore there would have been no purpose in the end of its creation. Wherefore, this thing must needs destroy the wisdom of God and his eternal purposes, and also the power, and the mercy, and the justice of God. 13 And if ye shall say there is no law, ye shall also say there is no sin. If ye shall say there is no sin, ye shall also say there is no righteousness. And if there be no righteousness there be no happiness. And if there be no righteousness nor happiness there be no punishment nor misery. And if these things are not there is no God. And if there is no God we are not, neither the earth; for there could have been no creation of things, neither to act nor to be acted upon; wherefore, all things must have vanished away. 14 And now, my sons, I speak unto you these things for your profit and learning; for there is a God, and he hath created all things, both the heavens and the earth, and all things that in them are, both things to act and things to be acted upon. 15 And to bring about his eternal purposes in the end of man, after he had created our first parents, and the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and in fine, all things which are created, it must needs be that there was an opposition; even the forbidden fruit in opposition to the tree of life; the one being sweet and the other bitter. Sin is breaking God's law and men are free to act for themselves whether to break that law themselves as they now know good from evil. Nephi 2 later says 26 And the Messiah cometh in the fulness of time, that he may redeem the children of men from the fall. And because that they are redeemed from the fall they have become free forever, knowing good from evil; to act for themselves and not to be acted upon, save it be by the punishment of the law at the great and last day, according to the commandments which God hath given.

Does now.

You're the OP (original poster)

Desperate: : of extreme intensity : having an urgent need, desire, etc. The Church has an urgent need, desire to save as many souls as it can. That's why they advertise on TV, broadcast General Conference to the world, baptize and perform other activities for the dead. That is one of the main ingredients, if you will, of the LDS Church today.

I've not noticed any Churches advertising on a bus - any examples?

Oh but the Church is desperate to have every soul saved and brought back to the presence of Heavenly Father.

To be heard or at least recognized.

Saying there is a Christ is an extraordinary claim - Thank God I can't but think God might even snicker just a little over this one. Just show's how desperate they really are.

Spot on!!