JimmiGerman

"My brother says he got hold of him, ..." You even let the back door open so that my suggested experiment wouldn't have any chance to convince.

An unanswered prayer...?

If we were to look at God from a pure scientific standpoint, where would you start? First we'd need a clear religious concept. But it would only be a concept. And all concepts can be denied or rejected. See all the theories about the universe: each theory is based on a concept, and I can't see there exists a pure scientific concept about the universe that can give us absolute certainty about the nature of the universe. What about the unification of the Quantum Field Theory with the Theory of Relativity? (In German it's called the "AUT" - die allumfassende Theorie der Natur) Scientists are miles away from that and the Superstring Theory, for example, is one of the latest concepts - with an infinite number of universes. I'm not sure that pure scientific concepts will give us all the answers we are searching for - those concepts can only describe the status quo but they can't give us an answer on the question "why". I think, simply to believe in God causes less problems or contradictions than a whole religious concept. God is supernatural and beyond all scientific singularities and phenomenons. What makes it really complicated, is the Christian belief. Is it this what you mean?

Exactly. There is no standard definition or description for God, and actually we don't know what we talk about, and that's why many people give that highest power or allmightiness an aura of mystery. But in some religious concepts, like Christianity, they tend to personify God, especially in Mormonism and its doctrine. Yes, and how we understand the singularity of a black hole depends on our ever modifying and increasing knowledge. As far as I understand it at the moment, a black hole - as an effect of its super gravity - catches and destroys the surrounding four dimensional space time and transferns matter into gravity. Only a few decades ago we didn't have the knowledge about the universe we have today. And what about God? In my imagination, unveiling the secrets of science, we've already met him.

That's what I would agree. There is no absolute certainty or proof for the assumption that there is no creator and no afterlife the same way as there is no absolute or scientific evidence or proof for an existing God. There is no absolute proof either way, as you say. An agnostic wouldn't deny the existence of God in an absolute way, because there is a rest of uncertainty for him based on the fact that there seems to be no way for him to describe or explore God. But I wouldn't agree that there is no empirical evidence that wouldn't give us an imagination of a super power, as there are many phenomenons discovered in the quantum effects / field theory or the cosmology ("big bang", dark matter, singularities, dark energy that causes a mysterious and accelerated expand of the universe etc.). I wouldn't believe in fairies and I know there is no Santa Claus, but there is a universe, and there are myriads of secrets and really crazy things surrounding us in this universe, and I believe that all these things discovered by mankind could be understood as revelations and an indicator of a super power (we call God).

I don't think they are really absolutely convinced there is no afterlife or higher power - they only wouldn't accept to believe in something without any unambiguous scientific proof. I am not really convinced their belief in denying or rejecting the existence of a higher power is really such strong, because they certainly know it's also only some kind of faith, not knowledge, simply based on the premise there can't be any supernatural being or a creator because there is no certain (scientific) proof, but knowing they themselves can't prove the non-existing of that higher power. I would call it the "anti-faith (belief)", or atheism based on agnosticism. "Der erste Trunk aus dem Becher der Naturwissenschaft macht atheistisch, aber auf dem Grund des Bechers wartet Gott." (The first drink from the mug of science makes atheistic, but on the basis of the mug waits God.) -- Werner Heisenberg, 1901 - 1976, German scientist

Sassy... sounds a bit sassy. Your location is citrus heights? And do you have awesome weeks between all the lemon trees...? If not, come to Hamburg, we have apple trees here.

Americanish...? Hmm... maybe, but as it's God's own country I would more understand it as God's own language. ... On the other hand you might be right with "Americanish" (Amerikanisch): hausfrau, blitzkrieg, beergarden, hinterland, prosit, rucksack, Frankfurter, Hamburger, concertmaster, bratwurst, and dummkopf is Americanish vocabulary in different American locations. See here: http://maxkade.iupui.edu/nameword/apend-d.html (a list of German words in American English). And who wouldn't know what sauerkraut is... a word you might already learn in the kindergarten!

England...? England... hmm... hmmm... got it! Doesn't it lie somewhere to the south of Scotland? I've always been spot on at geographics! And their language is... English? But what only do the Americans speak then...?

I think becoming a chaplain or priest in the military seems inconsistently. For whom will he raise his hands in blessings? Certainly for his own camerades. And the chaplain on the other side will raise his hands for the sake of HIS men. And then, provided with those blessings, they are sent to the front line into each others' gun fire, and the smell of gun smoke like incense in a church would be their last sacrament ...

Have you seen them only walking around? They shouldn't only "walk around". On the other hand, perhaps their Japanese is not good enough, if they come from Utah or Idaho or California... and so they don't know how to speak with the locals or what else to do and just walk around.

Exactly, she said South America, and I can swear on it, and I would even lay my right hand into the fire for that! Because if she said South Africa, I'd remembered this, because we Germans once had some colonies in Africa, like Togo, Kamerun, Tansania (and the Kilimandscharo once was the highest German mountain) and another one that I forgot its name. Yours Jimmi. PS ... the one I forgot (and the Kaiser may forgive me) was Deutsch-Südwest-Afrika, today known as Namibia.

Well known that. Jimmi-Spiked-Helmet has spoken. Yelo.

No matter! We are all new in this world and have been given the chance to return and repent! Abteilung, stillgestanden! Greetz, Jimmi.

"Negative Nellies" - What a funny and well describing word. It remembers me to the character of Nellie Oleson in "Little House on the Prairie" (German: "Unsere kleine Farm"). She really was a negative Nellie, perhaps in a different meaning. No doubt she was the prettiest there, she was the most evil character on the other hand. Those Nellies...

Right you are. I've made the same experience and found out that, whenever I was glad or happy, others draw me down. Perhaps we should try always to be sad and down, so that we could bring others to the opposite feeling and make THEM happy? ... PS Your new avatar is GREAT!

okay ... but I'm not so succesful as you seemingly are. It still doesn't work. But I'm going on to search for a back door... I'm rather sure it's my Linux operating system.

Tabbing through all the entries and finally get a result means there is a back door...? But I couldn't find it yet - not even the backside of the house where a door like that might be...

Thanks for the advice, xVOWx, but in my case it still works only with the text boxes without an overlapping text. The other boxes, where the text is overlapping, don't show that "sweet spot".

Thanks for your quick reply. My operating system is a Linux oriented one, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and the browser is Firefox, latest updated for this Ubuntu version. The resolution I've chosen right now is 1280 : 800 (16 : 10). I can alterate it, but for the new outfit / appearance of lds.forums it's the best to get everything on the screen without manual extentions on the right or above. PS Have just tried it again, but it's still overlapping. So, if it's not the software or my adjustments it might be the devil who dislikes me updating my email address for any reason or just to make it impossible that an important lds.forums message would reach me... and what can we do then...? I mean, what can I do, then...?

I was surprised about all the changes yesterday as I haven't visited this site here for a while. To be true I'm missing the former outfit. This seems to be a complete new forums software. But not without any problems: Trying to change my current email address, the fields current email address, new email address and confirm new email address are overlapped by the discribing text that should stand above those fields. So my emailaddress can't be changed or updated because the fields can't be filled out. Something wrong with the software?

Oh, purplearrow, how I always have wished to meet you. The Lord himself must have you taken here. Thanks for that kind of mercy, and thanks for your appearence here. And merry Christmas from Hamburg, Germany.

Oh, purplearrow, how I always have wished to meet you. The Lord himself must have you lead here. Thanks for that kind of mercy, and thanks for your appearence her. And merry Christmas from Hamburg, Germany.

Beginning to take the steps to transition...? I see. Chacune à la sienne. See Suzie's image, she must have gone forward with that, as her muscles and mighty appearence might tell us. That doesn't mean she looks unattractive... she's blowin' my mind.

Love from me, support surely from the others. :) Merry Christmas from Hamburg, Germany. And love. "closet debating transitions" ... sounds good. Must keep it in my memory. In German there is s.th. similar, but translating it would sound one or two steps harder.