HiJolly

Yes, indeed. One must not ignore truth as we find it. Yeah, I don't particularly like BRMcK or his father-in-law JFSJr's views on such things. I think they totally missed the boat when I comes to geologic and biological reality. Still great men in the Gospel, for sure, just a weakness in saying stuff they didn't 'know'. I think we all do some of that. HiJolly

Ah, you got it right!! I loved the time I spent in the YM org. Hated it when I needed to move out of state (in my new ward they put me in as HP assistant - not at all as enjoyable ). HiJolly

Welcome, Maya! My heart goes out to you as I read your words. Thank God that He is real and loves us! Life is for the living, and we must live it and hope God grants us understanding, if not joy. May our Heavenly Father bless you. HiJolly

Yes, that has been my experience. HiJolly

Yes, that is my belief (not knowledge). and, yes, Hadji Ali is where I got my moniker from. HiJolly

I always thought it was "twinkled". And I don't have any idea about the reversal of menopause being considered a 'healing'. I never thought of menopause being a sickness?? HiJolly

Since the Book of Mormon was translated by the power and gift of God, through Joseph Smith, then JS's worldview had an impact on the process. At least, that's my view. As one who has received revelation and had to interpret it into my own language (English, in this case), I can easily see how this can be so. Adieu, anyone? HiJolly

I agree, in a really, really faithful way... HiJolly

Sure... HiJolly

...except maybe the Book of Mormon... HiJolly

<whew> What a shot across the bow!! Nice post, Selek, and welcome! HiJolly

I thought I had: When we gain knowledge in a thing that we *used* to have faith in, then that new knowledge introduces us to new realms of possibility, in which we can now exercise new faith. So, rather than knowledge eliminating faith, what it does is spark or create whole new vistas in which faith for the first time becomes active. HiJolly

I think were I in your position, I would chuck all the formality of it and just play together. I'm guessing you kinda do that anyway, but a special (and non-obvious) attempt every Monday evening might be just the thing. With treats. I wouldn't have an opening prayer. Not a song either, unless it was just a fun thing like "You Are My Sunshine", "White & Nerdy", or whatever. Just play (cards, frisbee, scrabble, video games (multiplayer if possible) and so forth. We have an 8 y.o. girl that is autistic that doesn't do well in Church. Her parents bring her every week, and most weeks when she hits her limit she struggles and shrieks and they take her out to the foyer. I think their patience and love is such a needed lesson to the rest of us members. I try to tell the parents how well I think they are doing whenever I get the chance. Hang in there! HiJolly

Wow, that's a great site! Well, I think there are always going to be questions, of one sort or another. The human condition, and all that. Maybe that's not what you meant? I dunno. HiJolly

Well, it kinda goes back to the age-old question: Is there life 'out there'? (in space). We believe that there is. HiJolly

Hi, Zeke. I'm a science minded saint, and don't always agree with everyone else about these things. I do have some company, but not as much as I'd like... As Charity said, eating is not precluded in the Garden, particularly if the remaining seed is then planted. As for microbes or germs, I'll grant that the lifespan of a microbe is a bit problematic from what we see in the world around us, but if the Garden were a terrestrial sphere, then all sorts of different laws would exist. Of course, that's all speculation. for that matter, all of this is speculation... It's what mormons do well, I suppose! Germs, on the other hand, don't have to kill anything to exist, and can live a long time, as far as I know. I also think that life developed and there was life and death etc. on earth at the same time as Adam & Eve were in the Garden with no death present. Simultaneously, if you will. Different circumstances. IMO. I don't suppose the Earth melting with fervent heat is very comforting to anyone, really. And yes, it would indeed be a disaster for the Earth as we know it. But maybe the earth as we know it isn't as good as some other things. What do you think? HiJolly