CaleB

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  1. In most first world countries, burning an animal live like this would be against animal cruelty laws. If she did this on UK soil she would be in court.
  2. Graphic acts of animal cruelty break their ToS. Or perhaps you're okay with violent acts of animal cruelty to be blogged. The material is mere beyond someone's opinion that one might not like, it's of an act of barbarity. Do you really think violent acts like that should be allowed to be posted? You call it censorship, I call it common sense. Otherwise, I can post pictures of me abusing animals then saying "it's all good, freedom of speech".
  3. I did. Except that the blog comments are moderated and aren't displayed. Wonder if I can contact Wordpress and have the blog deleted, well at least that entry, animal cruelty like that is against their ToS.
  4. And I say people who do that get in trouble with the ASPCA (and may need a psychologist). :)
  5. Angel, snap traps usually hit the neck so it's dead instantly. There are also other traps that kill the animal quickly, if you look up on Amazon you can see there's a wide variety. That is better than leaving them to starve to death (no animal deserves that regardless what you think about it). In fact that's why New Zealand recently outlawed them. Leaving an animal on a glue trap is inhumane. It's exactly like leaving a fox in a leg-hold trap... eventually one of two happens - they gnaw off an appendage to escape or dehydrate/starve to death. Now why's that necessary? Just kill it, put it out of its misery. Why extend its misery, make it painful? That's the point I'm making. And as I said kapikui, something heavy - like a brick. Or a shovel or the end of a broom handle, straight to the head. In fact when you look in hindsight, a glue trap was a bad idea. They would have been better off using a cage trap or a heavy duty snapping trap. Getting hemorrhagic fever from an animal like that would assume they have it in the first place, and would also assume ingesting their bodily waste, which I am pretty sure they were in no danger of here (so why bring it up). And fleas don't really have a preference, they will jump on any warm-blooded animal to feed on. So, I gave a few viable alternatives. Oh, but they were too squeamish? Is that an excuse to burn live animals now? I mean, reaaally.... do you, even slightly comprehend how painful it is to get burns? How painful it would have been to that animal? You can cite disease risk all you want, but killing it in a proper less painful way would not have increased any such risk. Seems to me that it was "the easiest, most convenient" way for them. Do you really think that's a good reason to burn an animal alive?
  6. That's cool, Vort. I apologise if I sounded a bit over the top, I can be quite passionate about such things. And Angel, people are not supposed to just leave them on the trap. They're supposed to put out of their misery. Even if there is no consideration about the animal's suffering, then it could very well escape the trap. There is no point to starve the animal to death. In fact, I think glue traps should be outlawed. There are better traps to use, ones that at least kill the animal quickly.
  7. Novel idea: burn the body AFTER you kill it. There's a lot of stray dogs in those areas too that can harbour such fleas. That doesn't mean people should be burning them alive.
  8. How am I placing animals over humans?? By saying that burning a live animal is sick and demented?? Oh gosh, sorry, having concern for animal cruelty and calling someone out on it must mean I value animals more. *sarcasm* Criticising someone for animal cruelty to a rat does NOT mean I have more empathy for a rat than for a human being. That is ridiculous. For all you know I volunteer at the local homeless shelter, and give free legal advice to the poor. I do a lot more for my fellow man than I'd do for an animal, and that's a fact. So don't try to misinterpret me and twist things! As for hating someone who list all the dumb things they did, wow. This isn't some kind of innocent mistake, it isn't something like someone getting an order wrong or being late or staying up drinking at 5am. It's someone burning an animal to death. And the ridiculous double standard you have here - so kicking rocks to dogs is not ok but burning a rat alive is? What?? They're BOTH wrong, in fact burning a live animal would be worse because it would be much more painful for it! And I damn well do have a case here, it's a case of a cruel and unnecessary act. It's just that you don't think there's any case because the victim involved is a rat, not a cute fluffy puppy or more "useful" animal. She tortured a rat, laughed about it with her friends and celebrated afterwards. No remorse about her actions at all. And YES, this goes for her companions too, all under the same microscope here. And in saying this, I suddenly have more consideration for animals than humans?? You're making zero sense there!! And yes, YOU lack empathy. I am criticising her actions, as they are INDEED awful and disgusting and yet you are shrugging your shoulders and whitewashing this woman's actions. If you're going to say you don't care that she burned a a rat alive, then say it! But please don't try to paint me as someone who cares more for animals than humans and pretend it's nothing. I just dislike cruelty to animals immensely. That is NOT mutually exclusive to caring or helping human beings! At 19, no I wasn't all saintly and such, but I never dropped so low as to torture a defenceless animal to death by something that is incredibly painful. You talk about showing kindness and forgiveness to this person - well, I would if she had regret or remorse about what she did. People who do those sort of things, and don't... well... what am supposed to think about them??
  9. Picking on people? She burned an animal alive FFS. If anything I am criticising her behaviour! It's got nothing to do with her being a missionary, it's her burning an animal to death. It's disgusting! She could have got something very heavy or hard, like a shovel and hit it over the head. Lights out. Burning the animal alive is excessive, unnecessary and cruel. I don't care if she is a woman, that is NO EXCUSE to torch an animal! Never thought to buy a rat trap... what the hell? She's an adult, she couldn't possibly be that stupid and ignorant not to know what a mouse trap is! And I've never, ever done something as bad as burn an animal alive or worse. If I did that I'd be ashamed of myself. This woman obviously isn't because she showed no remorse. Seems like you're just making excuses for her because "it's just a rat". Might be a pest but it's still a living creature that can feel pain, torturing it like that is NOT ON. If you're going to kill any animal DO IT QUICKLY AND HUMANELY. If you had read the blog, they actually discussed its fate. One of the options include MUTILATING it. You don't do that, and you don't burn something alive by accident, or as a last resort measure. Sounds like they didn't give a shit how they killed it no matter how painful and unnecessary. And that's exactly why I am saying it's not so innocent as you think it is! And yeah, I'm taking this seriously. I hate animal abuse, and I think torturing a rat with fire is absolutely cruel and disgusting. You might not, but as someone who has been in a burn ward before, I felt sorry for that animal, that it had to suffer from the actions of someone stupid and inhumane. Yes, it's called empathy. Something YOU seem to be lacking. What is did was WRONG, are you seriously trying to argue it's OK to burn a little rodent alive???
  10. See, I've had mice in my house before too. I wanted to get rid of them quickly, burning them alive or mutilating them were not even in my mind as a method! How could they be an option?? For someone to actively discuss how to kill something, and either take their time to burn or mutilate the animal... it's torture! Rat or no rat! They even had a laugh after and pizza to celebrate. No remorse for her actions at all, like it were a causal thing to do! And one wonders why I think her motives were questionable...
  11. She immolated a live animal - a mammal, no less - when it was in no way necessary for the purpose of killing it. And then bragged about it. She was doing more than "killing a rat", she was torturing a helpless animal. What is wrong with a normal mouse trap, why must they burn the animal alive? Ask yourself that question. What she did was indefensibly wrong. Maybe you didn't notice, but there's a clear distinction between killing something out of necessity and torturing something then bragging on a blog about it.
  12. A death in the family, severely tragic events on the news and animal cruelty.
  13. I used to, but it was too addictive, took up too much of my time.
  14. It really depends on the severity. Something like fraud? Pretty major. But stealing a loaf of bread to survive? I'd say that's justified.