Doctor Steuss

I'm guessing the déjà vu might be because the words are coming from the same G-d. Do you find similar problems when the OT quotes itself? Or when the NT quotes the OT? Don’t forget, that the Nephites did carry away with them a version of the Torah (the Torah was not solidified as it stands in its current state until a bit after 600 BCE; thus we find the writings of Zenos in the record). I think that G-d can quote Himself (He even does it a few times in the Doctrine and Covenants… *Gasp*). Edited to add: I just noticed how old this thread is (I guess someone dug it up). So pretty much, the above response is just me stroking my ego. B)

No.

BoM Title Page And now, if there are faults they are the mistakes of men; wherefore, condemn not the things of God, that ye may be found spotless at the judgment-seat of Christ.

It will cost you three pseudo-scholars and a side of name-calling. But you can keep it.

Make sure you read this. Hugs, Sonny

Yes. I actually use it really, really often. Directions can be found here.

I hope in French. Brethren, adieu.

I forgive you my child, and I absolve myself for the fault. Go and commit logical fallacies no more. Doctor “Squishy Feet” Steuss

Just thaw and serve. PS. I love changing people's names in the quote box. It's fun to be EEEEEVVVVIIIILLL. PPS. I'm not wearing socks.

I doubt believing it to be literal or metaphor will be the thing that makes G-d decide to not extend His grace to you.

I absolve you of your sclerosis tendencies. Your lungs shall know the joys of running without hacking, and walking without wheezing. Go and booze no more my child. I cast out the histamine as if cleansing the Temple.Tell your cat to go and sneeze no more. The cat is out of the bag, therefore you are forgiven.

Many of these perplexities arise from the fact that Joseph Smith essentially said that the BoM is an inspired translation. If I am not mistaken, there is no copy, in the language it was originally written. However, if he was true in his claim, it matters not--the translation into English is inspired. If so, he could have written in Ebonics, and no one could really criticize it. Do I understand this correctly? It was "inspired" in that it was done with the power of G-d. Joseph had no secular ability to translate the plates. Although it was "inspired" it was nonetheless a translation that was done through a translator. Elements of Joseph (the translator) inevitably found their way into the text. He did not become a mindless puppet during the translation process. In fact, scripture seems to suggest the exact opposite (see D&C 9, namely verse 8)

You are forgiven my child. Go and slim no more.

There was no town named Magdala. There was a town that Matthew calls "Magadan" (Matt. 15:39), but the real name of this town was Migdal Nunaiya ("tower of fish") -- well, at least according to the Babylonian Talmud. The Jerusalem Talmud calls it Migdal Seb’iya ("tower of dyers"). And Josephus called it Taricheae. Basically, what I'm after here is "Magdala" was never what it was called, and there was never a town that had that name (at least nto that anyone knows of). Therefore, her name was not derived from "Magdala." So, we are left with "what does 'Magdalene' mean"? So, if Mary was from the city of "Magadan," we then see if "Magdalene" could be derived from it. IMO, it can't be derived from "Magadan." It can however be derived from "Migdal." In scripture (too lazy to find the verse) it refers to her as Mary, that was called Magdalene. This is pretty much the language that is used for "nicknames" (such as Jesus, who is called Christ; Simon who is called Peter, etc.). So, "Magdalene" was more-so a nickname than a designation of her birthplace. So, we end up (through my sloppy logic and basic insanity and heresy) with Mary "the tower" or Mary The Great. Christ gave nicknames to those He loved (i.e. Simon “The Rock”, John and James “the Sons of Thunder”, etc.). He loved her. She was His "tower"; therefore she got a nickname. I don’t know about you, but sometimes trying to follow my logic hurts my own head.

We are all novices. We are just at different levels in the wide spectrum. The only thing that separates a novice from a scholar is ego. Sometimes the person that doesn’t tout “intellectual prowess” is the very person whom can give the most enlightening insights. Don't be so hard on yourself.

It seems that as of late, many (including myself) are in need of extending apologies. So, I thought; "Hey, why not have an apology thread." So, here it is. Apologies away everyone. I would like to first apologize to my mom. She wanted me to get an MD. Instead I got a PhD in Misanthropic Misology. I'm sorry mom. And of course, EverNew. And my pants. Who's next?

Compromise. Admit to forgetting to forget that you forgot.

Mary, Christ's migdal Mary migdal Mary migdal[ene] Mary Magdalene A rose by any other name... ~~The above sloppy scholarship and heresy is brought to you by Doctor Steuss. Half the quality for the same price. Steuss, all about knowing stuff about stuff... er, something.~~

What's really crazy is if you pick up a French Book of Mormon. I have a copy (albeit it is pretty used... it was my dad's on his mission). You are more than welcome to take it and see how people can't "adequately explain" the wealth of French words that the Nephites knew in that translation of the Book of Mormon. I didn't think people actually used this argument. I thought that Jeff Lindsey and other apologists were just creating a strawman. Learn something new every day.

SlimFast

Mumsie is here! Hooray, hooray. Here, have a Steussy snack (found this yesterday while going through some papers that I inherited from my grandpa -- not "early" Church stuff, but interesting nonetheless...):

And it leads to apostasy.

Bill Cosby

Two lines of pondering written for you by Doctor Steuss... ------- There is no town of Magdala There is only Christ's migdal Yediyd, How's your Hebrew?

Atheists... same great taste, yet less filling. This is so groovy. I've got two of my "other message board" friends here now, and a load of my "other, other message board" friends too. It's like a party. *Bobbing head slightly off beat like only a white guy can*