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I agree. I cant possibly see how listening to Tyler Glen of Neon Trees bash Mormons is going to be anything but a celebration of rebellion, immorality and youth gayness.

It goes to broader matters than "carping". We're talking about the end of times here, broadly speaking, and how we face it. The church's messages are inconsistent on this subject. One moment they send a message like this, the next they put out a policy disallowing children of homosexuals from being baptized -- a move that is claimed as core to the cause of the very suicides the LoudLove community is trying to prevent. That comes across as serious double-speak -- and I don't mean just to me, but as I have heard reported again and again by those I know who have become disaffected from the church over these very matters. In short, the messages do not make sense. They contradict one another and it is disconcerting and confusing. It is not a matter of carping. It is a matter of -- can anyone help me understand this?
I will grant that those who carp do, tactically, use the exact same method (question asking) to carp...but it is merely a tactic. I am using no tactic. I am sincere in my question. And will faithfully support the church in any direction it goes. But that is different than understanding what's going on in matters like this.
My concern is for my children, honestly. How do I raise them in this stupid messed-up good-is-bad and bad-is-good world where logic has taken a flying leap out of existence and anyone can claim their own truth and demand validation for it regardless of merit or reason? The answer, of course, should be the stability of eternal truth and the gospel. And it is, of course. But on the fringes and in the public sphere, some of the messages being proffered are not stable, clear, or in line with other messages given. It is confusing.

I do not think we should caricature Christ that way. What is a "basic" Christlike principle, after all? Running the money-changers from the temple with a whip or healing people? Condemning sin or forgiving weakness? Calling a group of people a den of vipers or teaching someone to feed His sheep?
Clearly they are all Christ-like. I don't think "be nice" is an accurate or fleshed out idea of what it actually means to be Christlike in any regard.

I also have misgivings about the decision and mistrust of the whole LoveLoud community.  But . . . So, what?
It may well be that this tactical decision by the Church leadership doesn't directly accomplish what they hope it will accomplish.  That happens sometimes. (See, e.g., Zion's Camp, Utah's sugar beet industry, etc.)
But, I have faith that even the "failure" of an endeavor undertaken in unity is not nearly as dangerous to the Church as the disunity that would come of open dissection of and carping about our leadership's decision.
So . . . Let's stand still, and see what comes of this.

I see! The intro to the MormonNews room article states that the statement is in response to inquiries to the church about the event. It doesn't state what the inquiries were, but I imagine if there were no inquiries, they would have said anything.

I don't know who has authorization to release Church PR messages and I don't know if they are explicitly from the 12 or not. I think if the Church wants to move on something they put out a unified statement like the Proclamation on the Family, signed by all 12. I do know that the 12 can have drastically different views on many things.  If the Prophet wants to speak-he can speak it.  
If the 12 want to get their message across to the Church they read a statement over the pulpit. As has been done many, many time in my life.  A PR statement not read over the pulpit.  I feel in no way that critizing a PR statement is coming even close to apostasy.  Read a statement over the pulpit and I take issue with it and then we can discuss.
What I do know is that when MormonLeaks is a thing. All is not well in Zion.  MormonLeaks is a thing because either someone hacked into their systems (likely but remote as a lot more information would be released), or someone who had access to the material leaked it.  Maybe it is a low-level employee or maybe not.  But the fact that a supposedly faithful LDS temple attending member would leak that information . . .well again people have their head stuck in the mud.
When I'm in a Sunday School class and a member stands up and berates the Church for it's stance on homosexual marriage, all is not well in Zion.
The Church is an organization and a vehicle to lead people to Christ. It's not perfect, not everything done or said is God's will-it's lead by men of God who are imperfect human beings.  The biggest reason the Church exists is because of the authority and ordnances. If a member of the 70 can be sin so greatly as to be excommunicated, then yes good men of God can make plenty of mistakes.
If the LDS church at one point decided to allow homosexuals to marriage; I would severely disagree. I personally would believe it is not of God. I would still be a member of the Church. I would teach my children it is against God's law-but I would still be a member of the Church why, b/c I know it is the only organization authorized to act in God's name regardless of it's human problems. 

Except again, the methodology they want to use to prevent youth suicide is out of line with Church teaching.  It's insidious. The founder of the concert explicitly says the LDS church is bigoted and telling youth that homosexual behavior is sinful is "hateful"-they want to prevent youth suicide by telling kids "just be who you are, it's okay to engage in homosexual behavior". 
That individuals don't see the readjustment and changing of definition of words is amazing and demonstrates how insidious Lucifer really is.  Up until roughly the 1950s, gay meant happy, joyous. The song "We'll all feel gay when Johnny comes Marching Home" was a song sung. But the homosexual agenda usurped the word and then owned the word.  Now gay means exclusively homosexual. 
The definition of "Family values" and love are changing too.

The idea that one race is superior to another is to me repugnant.  I don't believe someone should be punished simply b/c of something they believe-now if they act and do something that violates another's God given rights, then pain should be coming.
But I do enjoy my culture, my heritage and my race.  I enjoy that my ancestors came from the traditional European stock.  I enjoy eating traditional European food- cabbage and ham for Easter.  I like being able to come home to a traditional culture.  I enjoy going to other countries and seeing their culture . . .but I also like my own and I'd like to keep it that way for me and for posterity.
I think what you are seeing is the natural pushback against the insanity of people and Europeans taking blame for "white privilege" and owning it and then turning around and appeasing everyone and anyone for the sins of past generations.  I make no excuses or apologies for the past . . . it is done, over with, learn from it, grow from it, understand it was a different time, different people.  Just because I enjoy my culture doesn't mean I approve of everything they did, every culture has it's warts and problems. I personally find it repugnant that I am expected to bow down and grovel like some pig simply b/c a group of people who are starting to get political power demand that I apologize and make reparations for the past. 
It is done, over with, live and let live. 
And no, I don't want my children going to a school where (as another individual of another race put it to me), the administrators were playing adult rap and dancing in the street of an elementary school.  That's fine if another person wants that for their child-not for mine. There is definitely a difference in culture.
It's why IMO multi-culturism is a cancer.  I really enjoy going to other places and seeing the differences and being immersed in the differences.  But if we take all the differences and put them together then France isn't France anymore, China isn't China anymore it just becomes one big pot. And I honestly enjoy seeing the difference- I don't want everything to be the same everywhere. It provides the spice of life.
Interesting factoid; the entire reason Texas became a state is because Mexico (primarily Hispanic) invited and encouraged US citizens to settle in the area.  Over a period of time, the Americas ended up outnumbering the Mexicans.  They fought a war over it b/c the American culture did not mesh with the Mexican culture.  Texas became it's own nation and then eventually joined the US.  It's why the north and south fought . . .b/c they were two different cultures that didn't mix together.
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. 

I think the consistency of our messaging would prevent that from happening. Children of course first and foremost require consistency at the parental level, and fellowship at the ward level supplements these. Everyone needs to be aligned with the Brethren through the gift and companionship of the Holy Ghost. The lord has a lot of checks and balances for His children.

Except again, the methodology they want to use to prevent youth suicide is out of line with Church teaching.  It's insidious. The founder of the concert explicitly says the LDS church is bigoted and telling youth that homosexual behavior is sinful is "hateful"-they want to prevent youth suicide by telling kids "just be who you are, it's okay to engage in homosexual behavior". 
That individuals don't see the readjustment and changing of definition of words is amazing and demonstrates how insidious Lucifer really is.  Up until roughly the 1950s, gay meant happy, joyous. The song "We'll all feel gay when Johnny comes Marching Home" was a song sung. But the homosexual agenda usurped the word and then owned the word.  Now gay means exclusively homosexual. 
The definition of "Family values" and love are changing too.

A couple of points.  Why does a world-wide Church even need to address this?  The LDS Church puts out a PR statement on an event that will have what maybe at the very most 50,000 people attend.  Commenting on a Rock Concert no less (I love rock, but again why comment?).  This event is an extremely local event-I bet nobody except those who either live in the direct area or those who are plugged into the homosexual agenda were even aware of this event.
The Church has 15+ million members with over half residing in foreign lands that have absolutely nothing to do with the event.  Again part of wisdom in life and organizationally is understanding some things just don't need to be addressed.  When you address ever little whim and issues you look like you are either becoming more and more shifting with the times or like you don't know what you are doing and are reacting to ever jot and tittle. Just because you have lots of people inquiring doesn't mean you are required to give an answer.
And on the surface the event's "aim" appears noble.  "Prevent teen suicides and keep families together".  Of course, who wouldn't be for those things.  Except their idea of how to prevent suicides and keep families together is antithecal to the LDS church methodology. LDS Church is love them as children of God but right is right, wrong is wrong-do not commit sin.  Their way (as stated by their founder) is that this teaching leads to suicide and teaching children that homosexual behavior is a sin is hateful.
LDS church's view on family is that it should be man and women.  Their view is homosexuals should be able to raise children.
How can you have dialog on that?
And quite frankly as human beings very, very few of us are able to understand the subtle nuances.  That's why you have a PR department, they are supposed to understand that people don't get subtle differences and word things in a clear concise manner.
PR says "we share common values like the pricelessness of youth and the value of families".  Except our definition of what pricelessness of youth means (i.e. teaching them the straight and narrow way) and our definition of value of families (man and woman sealed together) are the complete opposite than theirs.
PR this past week from the Church was a major, major fail. Had the PR department acknowledged in their statement a reaffirmation of LDS values then that would probably have been much better. The PR department can receive such backlash that they clarify their statement against "white supremacy" but they will probably let this stand.
The definition of how they use words is different then ours.  Our love is their hate and their love is our sin. 
God heads this Church; but anyone who says "all is well in Zion" has got their head stuck in the mud.

It depends on what exactly the perceived intent is. Its sad that many will wrongly think the church is starting to support the LGBT agenda. And, Im torn because support for these kind of organizations is more of a PR move that sends the wrong message.

I don't see conservatives persecuting those whom they deem guilty of wrong think.

I'm very skeptical about this. There was a PBS documentary that went into a lot of detail about Hitler's dabbling with the occult. The Nazi party ceremonies were infused with neo-pagan influence. Ethnically, I understand Hitler was at least part Jewish.

Of course it's a lie.  Who are the ones that think Black people are too dumb/too poor/too whatever to have IDs?  Who are the ones that think Black people are too dumb/too disadvantaged/too whatever to get into college through merit?

The whole "racist = right-wing" has been around for decades. Now that I think about it, it's a lie. If they really want to go after racists, maybe they should start with Planned Parenthood--which is grossly over-represented in African-American and Latino neighborhoods. 

Here are some insightful contributions to the Charlotteville meme wars:
'"Wow this Russia boogeyman isn't working.  Let's try white supremacist." - the deep state
"You can't be both a Nazi and a proud American.  We literally had a war about this."
"When the KKK who were the militant arm of the Democrat Party and the Antifa who are currently the militant arm of the Democrat Party end up fighting over the statue of Robert E. Lee who was a Democrat... is this a family affair?"
 

Nazi - short for Nationalsozialismus (Nationalist Socialist).  The Nationalist part make them right-wing.
Hitler was a Protestant who tried to unite all Protestant Churches into one National Protestant Church.
 

Totally agree. The larger point being that in today's modern society we can't fathom why people had a deep hatred for the Japanese . . .but there were some very good reasons as to why they did.  The same applies to other situations.

I have to qualify this.  This does not apply to all Japanese people.  This only generally applies to the Japanese imperialists.  The Japanese culture itself has not changed much throughout its history and it was the Japanese people who diligently worked to oust their Imperials even before America dropped those bombs.

AMEN to this.
Make sure each one of us is not one of those guided toward racism.  On purpose.  And make sure each one of us is not guided to believe such-and-such is a racist.  On purpose.  That's really the only way to STOP THIS STUPID THING!

The Telestial Kingdom also includes adulterers, fornicators, and those who "loveth and maketh a lie".  I fear it will hold the vast majority of those who lived to adulthood - at least, in 21st-century western society.
And when we talk about murder, don't forget about the west's acceptance of abortion.  We have much to answer for.