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The Bible actually shines light on the possibility that Christ visited America, but there is nothing in the Bible saying Jesus did not come to America.

Right, the "gift" of the Holy Ghost comes not just at baptism, but during confirmation correct? I agree the Sons of Perdition are those who fully reject the light and truth after receiving it.

Thanks for sharing. I don't feel tighter gun control would be beneficial at all.

Personally I think it could mean a person that didn't get baptized and set apart since we all have the right to the influence of the Holy Spirit.

I read 81-84 as those who are thrust down to hell include people who do not accept the gospel or have a testimony of Christ, but do accept the Holy Spirit. Am I missing something?

So who all believes tighter gun control equates to less mass violence?

83..."deny not" would imply accepting the Holy Spirit, correct?

Not at all, but I didn't ever connect eternal separation outside the CK, which is why I asked.

Sounds like hell, but definitely not the place of "...weeping and waling and gnashing of teeth..."

Separated eternally?

I remember that Tele and Terre were supposed to be more beautiful and wonderful compared to earth's current state. How can that also be Hell?

That is right....been a while! Father called a council and presented His plan. The plan called for a savior and so on. Thanks for the clarification.

I remember the war in Heaven was over 2 plans: 1. Lucifer wanted the glory for saving making (with no agency) 2. Jehovah's plan allowed agency, provided a savior and gave all the honor and glory to God. I do see where @The Folk Prophet is drawing his thought though. Very interesting!

Wait, is Hell and the "lake of fire and brimstone" the same?

How funny. Me and my wife are opposite. I use the "birthday month" card and request Christmas decs wait to go up after Thanksgiving, but if not at least wait till after my birthday!!

Hey everyone, I found this site the other day while researching the flood story. There seems to be some interesting discussions/topics in here so I wanted to give it a go. I am 38, live in Oklahoma and work in IT. Cheers

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