DennisTate

I am of the belief that a significant increase in unity between gifted Pentecostals like my wife with zealous and powerfully Holy Spirit led Latter day Saints will lead to a massive outpouring of the Holy Spirit over the coming years and months and decades........ and centuries............. and even into millennia in the future...... .this will never stop. http://www.sciforums.com/threads/non-linear-time-beginning-from-2001-in-quito-ecuador.164266/#post-3672307 I've been in correspondence with Latter day Saints since 2018 and I believe thatthey are in a unique position to significantly decrease the level of hostility in the Middle Eastdue to their tendency to identify with the Lost Tribes of Israel which put them in a special positionto perhaps be willing to trade homes with Palestinians living in the West Bank or perhaps with Muslims living inany part of Israel who might be willing tomove to wherever a particular LDS family happened to be living?Latter day Saints already have an agreement with the Jewish Rabbi's in Israel to not proselytize to Jewsbut..... Latter day Saints may even be willing to join in some variation of the Noahide Movement thatis like a Jewish outreach to the Gentile world.A near death experiencer in 1992 was given a series of visions related to bringing peace to the Middle East thatwould have obvious "artistic value" that can be transformed into "educational value, diplomatic value and yes economic value" inthe form of reality film projects where Latter day Saints end up living in Israel......having traded places with an Israeli family who would prefer to live wherever those Latter day Saints happened to have their home.Now we are in a position to even liven things up further if the Latter day Saints could make an agreement with the nation of China topay a ransom for Uighur Muslims who perhaps become students at BYU in Jerusalem, or at any BYU campus.It is obvious that the nation of China sure does not want Uighur Muslims living in their nation so this presents a specialopportunity to set in motion something that could alter the formula in the Middle East because...... if the LDS had an agreement thatrescued thousand and soon tens of thousands and soon hundreds of thousands of Uighur Muslims and moved them out of China.....I suspect that Uighur Muslims who have been saved from a modern Holocaust would tend to be very difficult to convince tobecome "suicide bombers" due to their level of thankfulness for their new nation that may accept them?For the record I personally could not catch onto the logic for "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land" until I read "Way of Holiness and the Sacred Hoop"by the same near death experiencer.http://godspeaceplan.org/books-download-page/ It has been estimated that the Latter day Saints church could come up with a hundred billion dollars if they had toand I believe that they would be open to a variation of Theistic Evolutionary Theory that would tend to lay a foundationfor the idea that perhaps each human life has something like infinite value to a Creator composed of fundamental or nearlyfundamental energy who was "evolving" and learning over infinite time even before the last major Big Bang type event.Investing in saving human lives through some variation of "art" could potentially transform and boost the world economyout of this COVID 19 economic slump that fits with the two factors needed for a time of hyperinflation.1. print extra money2. DRAMATICALLY REDUCE PRODUCTIVITYThis is a basic idea that Agnostics, Atheists, Latter day Saints, Jews, Muslims and many other people all over the world could potentially cooperate to some degree on. I have in mind a new genre of film entitled "semi-reality science fiction" that deals with the predictions of the Jewish, Christian, Muslim and other prophecies for the latter days or last hour that........ create acting jobs and address some of the circumstances that might tend to produce WWIII.Here is an ancient Islamic prediction that I believe Agnostics, Atheists, Muslims, Jews, Christians and many other people could cooperate on: In theory film footage that actually saves lives and makes the world a somewhat better and safer place for everybody could play the role of metaphorical "gold" in backing up an increase in the supply of "money" in one form or another.

This is a good time to think outside the box and create a new type of career that would tend to appeal to people who are willing to lose their job in order to make their own decisions related to their health! The fact that the nation of Israel is somewhat in the centre of this conflict gives Israel a head start on figuring out ways to turn this conflict into a positive. "A film devoid of conflict is boring." (R.W.) Muslims, Christians, Jews and all others who value freedom of choice are now forced to come together more and discuss ways to cooperate to solve what could become a serious conflict. I've been in correspondence with Latter day Saints since 2018 and I believe that they are in a unique position to significantly decrease the level of hostility in the Middle East due to their tendency to identify with the Lost Tribes of Israel which put them in a special position to perhaps be willing to trade homes with Palestinians living in the West Bank or perhaps with Muslims living in any part of Israel who might be willing to move to wherever a particular LDS family happened to be living? Latter day Saints already have an agreement with the Jewish Rabbi's in Israel to not proselytize to Jews but..... Latter day Saints may even be willing to join in some variation of the Noahide Movement that is like a Jewish outreach to the Gentile world. A near death experiencer in 1992 was given a series of visions related to bringing peace to the Middle East that would have obvious "artistic value" that can be transformed into "educational value, diplomatic value and yes economic value" in the form of reality film projects where Latter day Saints end up living in Israel...... having traded places with an Israeli family who would prefer to live wherever those Latter day Saints happened to have their home. Now we are in a position to even liven things up further if the Latter day Saints could make an agreement with the nation of China to pay a ransom for Uighur Muslims who perhaps become students at BYU in Jerusalem, or at any BYU campus. It is obvious that the nation of China sure does not want Uighur Muslims living in their nation so this presents a special opportunity to set in motion something that could alter the formula in the Middle East because...... if the LDS had an agreement that rescued thousand and soon tens of thousands and soon hundreds of thousands of Uighur Muslims and moved them out of China..... I suspect that Uighur Muslims who have been saved from a modern Holocaust would tend to be very difficult to convince to become "suicide bombers" due to their level of thankfulness for their new nation that may accept them? For the record I personally could not catch onto the logic for "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land" until I read "Way of Holiness and the Sacred Hoop" by the same near death experiencer. It has been estimated that the Latter day Saints church could come up with a hundred billion dollars if they had to and I believe that they would be open to a variation of Theistic Evolutionary Theory that would tend to lay a foundation for the idea that perhaps each human life has something like infinite value to a Creator composed of fundamental or nearly fundamental energy who was "evolving" and learning over infinite time even before the last major Big Bang type event. Investing in saving human lives through some variation of "art" could potentially transform and boost the world economy out of this COVID 19 economic slump that fits with the two factors need for a time of hyperinflation. 1. print extra money 2. DRAMATICALLY REDUCE PRODUCTIVITY This is a basic idea that Agnostics, Atheists, Latter day Saints, Jews, Muslims and many other people all over the world could potentially cooperate to some degree on. I have in mind a new genre of film entitled "semi-reality science fiction" that deals with the predictions of the Jewish, Christian, Muslim and other prophecies for the latter days or last hour that........ create acting jobs and address some of the circumstances that might tend to produce WWIII. Here is an ancient Islamic prediction that I believe Agnostics, Atheists, Muslims, Jews, Christians and many other people could cooperate on: ..... " Book 005, Number 2208: "Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers." SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab) http://www.sciforums.com/threads/non-linear-time-beginning-from-2001-in-quito-ecuador.164266/?fbclid=IwAR0ke7bNcg3fVHioZEj_c2o1bW40yCx1gVYSq6w26q3n4HjrOIYD2aPSjrU#post-3672307

This is a good time to think outside the box and create a new type of career that would tend to appeal to people who are willing to lose their job in order to make their own decisions related to their health! The fact that the nation of Israel is somewhat in the centre of this conflict gives Israel a head start on figuring out ways to turn this conflict into a positive. "A film devoid of conflict is boring." (R.W.) Muslims, Christians, Jews and all others who value freedom of choice are now forced to come together more and discuss ways to cooperate to solve what could become a serious conflict. I've been in correspondence with Latter day Saints since 2018 and I believe that they are in a unique position to significantly decrease the level of hostility in the Middle East due to their tendency to identify with the Lost Tribes of Israel which put them in a special position to perhaps be willing to trade homes with Palestinians living in the West Bank or perhaps with Muslims living in any part of Israel who might be willing to move to wherever a particular LDS family happened to be living? Latter day Saints already have an agreement with the Jewish Rabbi's in Israel to not proselytize to Jews but..... Latter day Saints may even be willing to join in some variation of the Noahide Movement that is like a Jewish outreach to the Gentile world. A near death experiencer in 1992 was given a series of visions related to bringing peace to the Middle East that would have obvious "artistic value" that can be transformed into "educational value, diplomatic value and yes economic value" in the form of reality film projects where Latter day Saints end up living in Israel...... having traded places with an Israeli family who would prefer to live wherever those Latter day Saints happened to have their home. Now we are in a position to even liven things up further if the Latter day Saints could make an agreement with the nation of China to pay a ransom for Uighur Muslims who perhaps become students at BYU in Jerusalem, or at any BYU campus. It is obvious that the nation of China sure does not want Uighur Muslims living in their nation so this presents a special opportunity to set in motion something that could alter the formula in the Middle East because...... if the LDS had an agreement that rescued thousand and soon tens of thousands and soon hundreds of thousands of Uighur Muslims and moved them out of China..... I suspect that Uighur Muslims who have been saved from a modern Holocaust would tend to be very difficult to convince to become "suicide bombers" due to their level of thankfulness for their new nation that may accept them? For the record I personally could not catch onto the logic for "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land" until I read "Way of Holiness and the Sacred Hoop" by the same near death experiencer. It has been estimated that the Latter day Saints church could come up with a hundred billion dollars if they had to and I believe that they would be open to a variation of Theistic Evolutionary Theory that would tend to lay a foundation for the idea that perhaps each human life has something like infinite value to a Creator composed of fundamental or nearly fundamental energy who was "evolving" and learning over infinite time even before the last major Big Bang type event. Investing in saving human lives through some variation of "art" could potentially transform and boost the world economy out of this COVID 19 economic slump that fits with the two factors need for a time of hyperinflation. 1. print extra money 2. DRAMATICALLY REDUCE PRODUCTIVITY This is a basic idea that Agnostics, Atheists, Latter day Saints, Jews, Muslims and many other people all over the world could potentially cooperate to some degree on. I have in mind a new genre of film entitled "semi-reality science fiction" that deals with the predictions of the Jewish, Christian, Muslim and other prophecies for the latter days or last hour that........ create acting jobs and address some of the circumstances that might tend to produce WWIII. Here is an ancient Islamic prediction that I believe Agnostics, Atheists, Muslims, Jews, Christians and many other people could cooperate on: ..... http://www.sciforums.com/threads/non-linear-time-beginning-from-2001-in-quito-ecuador.164266/?fbclid=IwAR0ke7bNcg3fVHioZEj_c2o1bW40yCx1gVYSq6w26q3n4HjrOIYD2aPSjrU#post-3672307

The advice of Hananiah, Mishael, Azariah and Daniel was once better than the advice of the wisest and most educated young men in the Babylonian and later in the Medo - Persian Empire. Latter day Saints and all Christians who truly are led by the Holy Spirit are set up by Jesus to play a similar role over the coming years and decades. If average ocean levels were to rise by ten centimeters.... .would the multiplier effect of the geography of the Bay of Fundy continue? The fact that the Bay of Fundy funnels tidal waters plus...... it is over 170 miles long, (274 kms), it produces high tide level that are tenX to fifteenX over the difference in tidal waters where I live. So... could high tide levels near Truro, N. S. to Moncton, N. B. be up by a meter or more if average ocean levels were to rise by ten centimeters? "Physics question related to the geography of the Bay of Fundy?" http://www.sciforums.com/threads/physics-question-related-to-the-geography-of-the-bay-of-fundy.164103/

I have a suggestion that could be relevant not only to many of the faculty of BYU in Jerusalem... but to all faculty in all branches of Brigham Young University in the USA and all nations. Quite a few years ago I wrote up a rather simple explanation for what I was thinking about Theistic Evolutionary Theory. www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/ Chaim Henry Tejman M. D. could theoretically be given some variation of something like an "Origin of Life Award" for his work on Wave Theory and Life. This award if sufficiently large could grab the attention of a huge percentage of Israelis who are interested in Theoretical Physics and could set up BYU Jerusalem for a whole new type of outreach not only to the nation of Israel..... but frankly to all people in all nations truly interested in science. http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/book/life1.htm More information on this at: "Theistic Evolutionary Theory" on the General Philosophy subforum on Sciforums: http://www.sciforums.com/threads/theistic-evolutionary-theory.164102/#post-3670725

For the record...I do believe that your prayers and your morning for America is about to be answered and we are about to enter the greatest decade in the history of the USA where the Holy Spirit is poured out on the whole world................ but the outreach to all nations will be led by America..... and to a large extent by you Latter day Saints! A lot has been shown to people who would be termed Pentecostal but what was shown to them is relevant for all Latter day Saints much as a dream and an interpretation given to Midianites was relevant to the Judge Gideon. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/judg/7?lang=eng 13 And when Gideon was come, behold, there was a man that told a dream unto his fellow, and said, Behold, I dreamed a adream, and, lo, a cake of barley bread tumbled into the bhost of Midian, and came unto a tent, and smote it that it fell, and overturned it, that cthe tent lay along. 14 And his fellow answered and said, This is nothing else save the sword of Gideon the son of Joash, a man of Israel: for into his hand hath God delivered Midian, and all the host. 15 ¶ And it was so, when Gideon heard the telling of the dream, and the interpretation thereof, that he worshipped, and returned into the host of Israel, and said, Arise; for the Lord hath delivered into your hand the host of Midian. 16 And he divided the three hundred men into three companies, and he put a trumpet in every man’s hand, with empty pitchers, and lamps within the pitchers.

This is a wise approach...... this is somewhat similar to how my wife and I think of this topic so far. We want to delay our taking a vaccine until more information comes out about the side effects and....... if and when we may need to travel.... may be the time when we make our final decision on whether or not to get vaccinated.... and which brand of vaccine to choose.

Excellent... thank you... I felt it was best to copy and paste your response here, (well actually scroll down to the bottom of page three of replies... ).... :

Interesting indeed!!!!! I shall have to do a search for that!

This is by far the best response that I can ever remember getting to a topic that I have been discussing mostly with Agnostics and Atheists for several years based on the summary that I give in this blog: www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/ One part of the formula is that I believe that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in His resurrected and immortal and glorious body has essentially INFINITE technological capability to resurrect any and / or all of the dead from any moment in time from the time of the creation of Adam and Eve until now.

Yes.. I had read that about him...... but that could lead him to be somewhat more trusting of the motives plus the capabilities of the professionals who produced certain variations of the Covid 19 vaccines....( .than I would tend to be.)............. and there is a possibility that my suspicions that the professionals who produced these vaccines MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PRAYING DAILY for wisdom and guidance by the Holy Spirit in their research???????????

The Traveler...... YOUR REPLY IS BRILLIANT... .and the best...... reply that I think I have ever gotten since I began to put this idea out there several years ago. I got into this basic topic with so many Atheists and Agnostics that I wrote a blog to summarize the position that I was in so far: www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/ WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! May go into my suspicions that we may be living in something like a Multiverse....... that our Creator formed in order to fulfill all that is implied by Ezekiel chapter thirty seven..... Revelations chapter twenty Romans chapters, nine, ten and eleven.............? Or would you prefer that I copy and paste your message over to this other discussion...and go off in that possible direction from this other thread?

New Mexico biologist and coach Carl Cantrell wrote up an alternative theory on stabilization of the climate that could be very useful to Latter day Saints reaching out to the Islamic world or to Israelis.

There is an ancient Islamic prediction that fits well with Isaiah chapter thirty five that could give Latter day Saints in Islamic nations.... as well as the faculty and student body at BYU in Jerusalem another variation of an open door that has a very practical application. Assisting Israelis and their neighbours to take one or two or three steps toward each other could actually fit with. 9 Blessed are the apeacemakers: for they shall be called the bchildren of God." (Matthew 5:9) https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/isa/35?lang=eng 1 The wilderness and the asolitary place shall be bglad for cthem; and the ddesert shall rejoice, and eblossom as the rose. .... 6 Then shall the lame man leap as an ahart, and the tongue of the dumb bsing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert. 7 And the aparched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the bhabitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes. Here is something practical to make this more relevant to anybody living in an Islamic nation. Hundreds of thousands of Canadians will also benefit if deliberately turning deserts green become one of the major economic initiatives that Israel can cooperate with the Islamic nations on."If average ocean levels rose by eight to ten cms (3 or 4 inches) could high tide... ... rise by one meter in the Isthmus of Chignecto in Nova Scotia, Canada?This question is logical because the geography of Canada's Bay of Fundy produces the world's highest tides. In my part of Nova Scotia in Guysborough County there is very little funnelling of tidal waters......... so high tide is only about one to one point five meters above low tide.In the eastern area of the Bay of Fundy high tide levels are up by ten to fifteen meters."Mega-scale desalination of ocean water in Australia, California, Israel, Jordan, Qatar, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia or in any other nation experiencing shortages of fresh water is really good news for the residents of the town of Truro, N. S., Canada, the City of Monton, New Brunswick, Canada as well as for Anchorage Alaska. Every cubic meter of ocean water desalinated and added to the water table of a nation experiencing water shortage is arguably the lowest cost long term solution to the threat posed by rising ocean levels that will likely be felt first along the Bay of Fundy as well as Anchorage, Alaska.

Back in 1975 near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley was shown some details about one version of the Mark of the Beast that was at least interesting...... but I personally think that Ezekiel chapter thirty seven, combined with Revelations chapter twenty, combined with Romans chapters nine, ten and eleven may imply...... that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus uses Applied Multiverse Theory to set in motion multiple time lines........ and a warning given to all of us as early as 1975..... can give us time to pray and change our ways... .and set in motion a series of events where this variation of the Mark of the Beast is delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed....... perhaps by as much as by one to four or five decades??????????????

I ran into several paragraphs from the near death experience of former Atheist Howard Storm that some Latter day Saints might just find to be useful in their missionary work??? What three time near death experiencer Dr. P. M. H. Atwater saw about the aftermath of the September eleven, two thousand and one terrorist attack sounds somewhat similar on some levels.. http://pmhatwater.hypermart.net/resources/PDFs/911.pdf

I have to admit that several NDE accounts....... although impressive on so many levels... .did really leave me scratching my head over some of the aspects of their NDE testimony???????? I eventually came to the conclusion that one very important part of any NDE testimony would be a Life Review.... that was rather obviously with Jesus...... that produced fruits worthy of repentance??????? Here is an example of an NDE that especially impressed me......

Exactly..... being baptized as a member of the LDS church .... or any church for that matter is a serious commitment. I admit it...... I am not anxious or impatient to be re-baptized again for the third time even though I basically am impressed with the LDS church and doctrines, (especially with the truly hopeful and positive teachings on the state of the dead). Most of the fellowship that I do is with members of my wife's church, Pentecostals... I have been praying and asking to be shown clearly what Jesus wants me to do and I am pretty sure that once we sell our home in Nova Scotia and move to the province of Ontario I will be able to fellowship with Latter day Saints more easily because at this time I am nearly an hour and a half from the nearest LDS ward.

I had the privilege to teach English as a second language in Quito, Ecuador for over a year, from January of 2001 to roughly April or May of 2002. Eight million Israelis seem to be in need of high quality and low cost instruction in English as a second language. I know that Latter day Saint missionaries do an astonishing amount of volunteerism...... so this is an obvious possible type of outreach to the nation of Israel... that could be combined with the faculty and staff at BYU in Jerusalem?

Here is the link to another discussion forum and I am giving you this link because it seems to me that I have at least somewhat set some of your LDS missionaries up.... especially if they are very interested in Science. This is on the "Religion" sub forum of Sciforums .com My reply is post number eight on page one of this discussion.... feel total freedom to delete this comment if it is not kosher for me to add a link to a different discussion forum? http://www.sciforums.com/threads/which-belief-system-most-closely-matches-my-religious-spiritual-beliefs-2021-poll.164029/ "Which belief system most closely matches my religious spiritual beliefs 2021 poll" I am Dennis Tate on that forum.

No kidding...... I found the test here: https://www.beliefnet.com/entertainment/quizzes/beliefomatic.aspx Here is the result that I got after I took the test: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-41-the-postmortal-spirit-world?lang=eng

Although I do comprehend President Nelson's reasoning...... (I am aware that LDS volunteers with a background in medicine have vaccinated huge numbers of people who are too poor to afford that type of medical care themselves but)....... I personally want to delay my own decision to be vaccinated or not...... for as long as I possibly can........ because I have the impression that the vaccines were rushed. My wife is a deeply religious Pentecostal and her opinion is that if we decided to be vaccinated..... and choose a particular vaccine for our own reasons...... God will protect us if the vaccine is less than up to the best of standards. I am pretty sure that President Nelson had that in his mind as one part of his reasoning as well. I should add that the fact that you have a BYU campus in Israel... you LDS are set up to use the LDS approach to putting love for one another..... above divisions such as vaccinated vs non-vaccinated..... which puts you in a special position to assist eight million Israelis with this potentially rather divisive situation?????? The Jewish people may become very divided over vaccinated vs non-vaccinated........... and the fact that you LDS do not have a big fight over this issue...... gives you an especially powerful "open door" to the nation of Israel! The very fact that these past two elections in the USA have not caused a major split in the sixteen million Latter day Saints is evidence that my theory has at least some validity........ "They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." (Mark 16:18)

I am a former member of the Worldwide Church of God and I was against the idea of the Trinity for most of my life...... but now.... I have no problem with the idea of an Ancient of Days the Heavenly Father who may be composed of absolutely fundamental energy that may correspond to the energy of the original "Eleven" dimensional space time continuum. The Ancient of Days the Holy Spirit may perhaps be composed of somewhat less 'fundamental" tenth dimensional energy and may be able to walk inside of... .The Heavenly Father as shown to, if I remember correctly, the gifted Kat Kerr and the gifted near death experiencer Kevin Zadai..... then... .perhaps Messiah Yeshua - Jesus who has a physical body....... may be able to step inside of both the Ancient of Days the Heavenly Father and / or the Ancient of Days the Holy Spirit....... which would be one possible fulfillment of Jesus being in the FAther.. .and the Father in Jesus and the Holy Spirit being in Jesus.. .and Jesus being in the Holy Spirit........ and all of us being inside all three of them once we are resurrected????????? This question is far, far, far, far above my Security Clearance Level with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus but I definitely think that the Trinity Doctrine was used to exaggerate accusations and cause unnecessary division within the Body of Jesus /The Bride of Messiah/ the church.

Now this gets kind of unusual....... this is a potential opportunity for outreach by Latter day Saints interested in this particular topic? http://www.sciforums.com/threads/are-we-ready-to-build-the-ezekiel-chapter-forty-to-forty-eight-temple-complex.164109/page-2#post-3670515 "Are we ready to build the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex?"

I have attempted to put forward some common ground for my Latter day Saint friends as well as for my Pentecostal friends. My wife is Pentecostal.... the Gifted Kim Clement may have set the stage for a pretty serious level of cooperation between LDS and Pentecostals by some predictions that he made back in 2007..... but this will be controversial....... ...... Kim Clement predicted that somehow or another Bill Gates would somehow open up some sort of 'financial gates" for the Bride of Messiah... the church... in the future......... ....... I suspect that Jesus has a much larger definition for His Bride... than many Pentecostals would feel entirely comfortable with?????? ...... Since I work for free... .and since my challenge to the management and posters on Sciforums could be caught like a football by the staff and student of BYU Provo ..... surely... my offer is worth at least some prayerful consideration? "Proposal for creation of Sciforums Volunteerism Hour" http://www.sciforums.com/threads/proposal-for-creation-of-sciforums-volunteerism-hour.164213/#post-3670491