Honor

Beefche does that too.

I loved your mom on your car because I can't control myself! Oh fine, jk, because I'm sexy and I do what I want! Wing, are you sure this is isn't gonna get moved from General Discussion?

1. What is your favorite color? Anything between this and this. Periwinkle? Bluish, purplish? 2. Where were you born? Glendale, CA 3. Did you serve a mission and if so where? Does president of my mission prep class count for anything? Nope... didn't go. 4. Married or single? Good question. I'll let you know when the divorce is final. Technically married. 5. What is your favorite food? Just one? Chicken Parmesan (Olive Garden), Fiesta Lime Chicken (Applebees), Chicken Fajita Pita (Chili's), Chicken Enchiladas (Honor's kitchen), Gourmet Veggie Pizza (Papa Murphy's Pizza) with added... chicken. I guess, like the Chick'fil'a cows, I'm down with the slogan. 6. What is your favorite movie? Just one? Good ones. 7. Who is your favorite band? Just one? (yeah, this survey is starting to turn into a non-committal red flag!) See playlist on profile. 8. Do you have children? Yes, a 3 year old son currently pictured above. 9. Who is your favorite author? I enjoy reading, but not passionate about just one. 10. What are your hobbies? Love volleyball, playing the piano, extremely armature digital editing, and road tripping 11. What is your idea of the perfect vacation? Anything fun with people I love. Really more about who I'm with than where I'm going. 12. What is your favorite city? San Francisco and Salt Lake both feel like home. Others have been fun to visit, but I think they're my fav's. Always subject to change. 13. What is your favorite sports team? Love watching, but no hard core favorites. I generally root for whatever team I'm living closest to, but then default to Bay Area teams next. 14. What kind of car do you drive? '02 Dodge Intrepid 15. What was the first car you owned? '82 Volvo 16. What calling do you hold in church? Just a Visiting Teacher currently. Moved into a new ward over Christmas and no other callings yet.. Ahhhhhhhh! 17. If you could travel anywhere in the world that you have not been to before, where would it be? I think it'd be fun to take a Mediterranean cruise. I like my vacations to feel relaxing but I still want to see cool places. 18. What is your favorite tv show? Don't really have any. We don't watch tv at home. Got on an Office kick in the past few months and watched seasons 1-5 in the course of 3 weekends. That probably qualifies. 19. What is your current favorite restaurant? Don't have one. 20. What event in your life gave you the biggest rush? Childbirth. The minutes, hours and days that followed were completely euphoric and I believe that the work that goes into it is part of the reason.

Thanks Pam, I've now got enough info to officially stalk you AND steal your identity. You're the best!

My MIL was great. I felt like she remembered what it was like to marry into a new family and always showed interest who I was. I never felt wrong for being different from their family when I was with her. My FIL... different story.

Happy Birthday EP! Hope it's an awesome one!

My parents educated us about the physical aspects of sex and the reasons why we are only commanded to do so within the bonds of marriage. I wouldn't accuse them of bad parenting in this regard at all. STILL, my personal view of sexual matters prior to marriage was formed from my own dating experiences. I was always the one to say "stop" and hold the line when getting close to someone physically. My parents never told me sex was bad or evil, but it sure got to be a chore when the experiences I had were made up of me always saying, "I'm sorry but we need to stop" or "I really can't do that." Maybe I dated scumbags (doubt it - most of them were active LDS guys), but it seemed like every guy was ok with whatever limits I would set rather than holding any line of his own. It placed the responsibility on me and frankly, it was frustrating. Guys seemed to assume that I didn't WANT the physical things past a certain point when that couldn't have been farther from the truth. I wanted to, I just couldn't let myself. So, without anybody telling me that sex was "BAD" I went into marriage with feelings that were very difficult to suddenly change. I didn't think sex was bad and I looked forward to it. I understood that it can be a wonderful thing in marriage and thought I was prepared to make that switch, but it proved to be MUCH harder than I ever anticipated. I dunno, I'm still pretty worried for the massive amounts of people that I hear about getting married between high school and their very early 20's. I didn't feel like I had some social pressure to get married by 21, but the reasons TO get married sooner once I was dating my husband seemed to outweigh the reasons not to. The one that tipped the scales in my mind was "This is what we're commanded to do. If I'm obeying a commandment and I THINK I'm making a smart choice here, why shouldn't we?" Let's not get into the flaws in my 21 year old logic was, but rather suggest how I could have known better and what I could have done to change the feelings I had about intimacy. Hindsight is all well and good, but how can I as a parent impact my child's life to help create a different result? It sounded to me like Godless was saying that regardless of when the choice is made to become sexually active, people need to be prepared for the adjustment, physically and emotionally.

NOT FUNNY BEN! My son just became a Sunbeam and I really REALLY can't start equating sex with Sharing Time and be able to hear someone say, "He was a little bit rowdy during Sharing Time." I think I'd probably snort before realizing it was my son they were talking about and then flip out!

The tune is known as Dives and Lazarus.

So, hey OP... do LDS talk about sex? We apparently sure want to but have never really been clear on what/when/with whom it's appropriate.

I totally agree. Communication really is key so when differences come to light, a couple is able to honestly work through them. The sex taboo issue is very real in the society our religion creates. I went through the whole process of coming to terms with my own sexuality and not being ashamed of it, but realizing that the direction from our Heavenly Father has been given for a reason (duh). It was a MUCH bigger deal than I thought. I knew it was important, but didn't realize just how vital a need it is for both men and women to have a healthy and happy sexual relationship. Problems there can be the wedge that tears a relationship apart OR can be a reflection of problems elsewhere in the relationship. I also think there's more to the typical frequency issue than how it's typically viewed. Interest in sex can often be increased as other emotional factors are satisfied AND possibly vice versa. Yeah MOE! Gosh!

Wishing for that HURL button right about now...

It's difficult to know what expectations, likes and dislikes each will have before ever having sex though. I think it often leads to people feeling like they were misled or that their spouse changed drastically after they got married.

Fighting the urge to lick the screen? Or having a hard time suppressing your darker side? And to think, MOE was probably sitting there wondering if he'd get in trouble. Way to take the fall Av! Taking bets to see how long it takes until we moving to the open forum.....

Ok, that's long enough... There are a few subjects in the church like this that I wish were talked about more often, but then again, I don't. I'm still trying to think of how to find the balance. Being a young and relatively naive little Mormon couple when we got married caused quite a few problems and ultimately contributed to the end of our marriage (although a lot of that had to do with a partner who didn't want to work on anything about himself), but that doesn't necessarily make the opposite approach better. There has got to be a way to separate casual and inappropriate sexual conversations from worth while advice, questions and knowledge that could benefit a marriage greatly. Sex seems to be the hushed topic that so many couples have problems with but so few (in the church) actually address in an environment where they could find help. Maybe there's not so much a problem with the lack of casual conversations about sex, but more a problem with couples knowing the appropriate places to turn for help when problems arise in a relationship.

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Oh come on, you can explain it Pam. But if you wont, I will. Av and Pam were both checking out Shemmy's guns together.

Same expression, but he works the angles. Shoulder down and toward the camera..... annnnd smoulder! Saunter like I just got done working out.... annnnd smoulder! Flash the ladies my pit hair.... annnnd smoulder! He's kinda got variety.

Just what kind of a guy are you going after here Pam? Do we need to sit down and have a talk with him before things progress? I'd really feel more comfortable if we had the chance to meet his parents first. Ultimately, when you finally move out of our basement, the decision is yours, but until that time we expect you to respect our wishes. Remember, we're doing this because we love you Sweety.

If you can turn the menu bar off, it's news to me. I don't think you can. The Thanks and Laughs are buttons at the bottom right hand corner of each individual post.

Jealous much?

If it walks like a duck..... it's probably dragging a huge set of scriptures behind it. Wait, not saying that you walk like a duck Pammy! Maybe only on Sundays...

Open with me, if you will , to 1 Nephi, Chapter 8..... *pauses while y'all flip, and snickers at Beefche who's trying to turn paper thin pages with her hooves and Pam who can't lift her BIG print edition* ..... verse 27. Speaking of the G&SB.net: "And it was filled with people (√), both old (√√√) and young (√), both male (√) and female (√), [and some who still have yet to create a thread to announce their gender (√)]; and their manner of dress was exceedingly fine (√ one word - beefkini?); and they were in the attitude of mocking (√) and pointing their fingers towards those who had come (√)..." Again, welcome! (no making fun of my sq root check marks... MOE!)

Ellow Bruce..... Did you just slyly refer to this place as a great and spacious type building? Wow you're pretty observant for a newbie! Welcome!

Thanks for bringing this up. I need to research it more, but I was thinking as I read this thread that possibly we would not be able to continue progressing together if we are not sealed, but from what I know of our Heavenly Father, I believe it's not likely that relationships and associations formed here would be completely dissolved. But of course, this is just my own logic/faith based speculation. I'd be interested to know what others have found regarding this topic.