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Encourage her to talk with her Bishop, she needs to be repentant which it sounds like she is not yet. If it were something that puts the Church in danger (which this probably does not) then you would be justified in telling your Bishop. Examples of the Church being put in danger would be like a child molester that is called to Primary, a thief being called as financial clerk, etc Also remember: In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established..

DW and I make near the same amount. Everything goes into one account, we give ourselves an allowance every payday that we spend on what we want for ourselves. We pay for everything else with a credit card that returns cash to our home mortgage and then pay it off every month. Every payday we move money into savings and both contribute to 401K's being older, no kids at home and both professional we do have discretionary income. We also pay off loans (car and home) early. We are on track to pay off a 30 year mortgage in 14 years. Car loans (if necessary at all) are paid off in 2-3 years. Grumbling about having to pay rent IMHO is childish. --- As far as your husband believing the Lord will come soon. "No man knows the hour of His return, only God knows that" You two need to get on the same page as far as finances go or you are in for big troubles. Disagreements over fiances are one of the leading causes of divorce.

I personally don't believe that Satan can himself do physical things however I do agree wholeheartedly with the rest of HiJollys post in that I believe he can influence thought (as much as we let him) and he has full knowledge of the pre-existence, unlike us, so he knows 'what buttons to push'. We are the ones able to give him influence over us and if we give him too much influence over ourselves then we will do the physical things he wants done.

If you wear sandals (without socks) then your feet are visible anyway, so that throws out the post I replied to about someone not wanting to see or show their ugly feet.

In just shy of 20 years I have had 2.

<<shakes head>> sometimes I think people just like being contrary on message boards.

You're basing your argument on the Lord being the one who commanded this. I'm saying its the EQ Presidents idea, not the Lords. I do not believe the Lord commands stupid things.

So when the Elders Quorum President speaks the thinking has been done? I don't follow blindly, we have been told not to follow blindly by many Prophets and Apostles. Lets get real on this people.Someone over you says you must now start interviewing the same 15-35 people (1/3 of your EQ members)once a month every month for as long as you are under this 'leader'. You have a full time job and a family, your calling also has other duties besides -- are you just going to blindly follow this persons instructions?

Does no one here wear socks?

But if she made a casserole with cream of mushroom soup would you divorce her?

I do and will continue to do so. In EVERY ward in the world it would be a pure waste of time to hold a PPI with every member of the Elders Quorum every month. That would be one request I would refuse. Come on people, use your head on this one. Can anyone give me any rational use for this? Just because someone is called as an EQ President, that doesn't mean God inspires everything they do.

I'll guarantee there was no inspiration from God on that one.

I justify it on the basis of the Church Handbook of Instructions that says they are to be done yearly. I also base it on common sense -- its a pure waste of time: 3 people (EQ presidency) interviewing 40-100 people (members of the quorum) every single month? maybe you think that's reasonable - but most people do not, especially for an organisation that runs with no paid positions at the Ward or Stake level.

Oh, is the Super Bowl this Sunday? -- which shows you how I feel about sports.

That's really funny (since we both now hate fish) because as a kid I ate clam chowder too.

They didn't even have cell phones when I was dating. Matter of fact most home phones still had dials and were black and hung on the kitchen wall.

Smoking is/was a deal breaker, don't want to be around it at all. When I was dating (before being LDS) I would not date anyone who smoked. I even hate riding up the elevator at work with someone who obviously was just out for a smoke. Infidelity would be a deal breaker. But the fact that both my wife and I were experienced before we got married (before becoming LDS) was not a deal breaker. I hate fish, my wife loves it, as long as I have something else to eat in the house I could care less if she has fish so to me the casserole/ cream of mushroom soup thing is ridiculous. Beside I LOVE most casseroles with Cream of Mushroom soup, having grown up in Minnesota its part of my heritage dontcha know.

The older you are the less 5 years matters, at 18 its a BIG deal (to me at least), at 50 its nothing. But then to counter what I just said, my dad was 26 when he married my (then) 18 year old Mother - that marriage lasted all their lives - and they were not even LDS. I'm 4 1/2 years older than my wife but we got married in our 40's.

Make yourself a list of things to do, in the case of daily items like scripture study, etc, put it on a calendar and check it off every day you do it. Put this calendar somewhere you will see it multiple times a day. You can go online and find a calendar, putting the items you want to accomplish daily and then print it out. They say it takes between 20-30 times of doing something regularly to make it a habit -- you'll just have to push yourself with the calendar reminders until it IS a habit.

Our financial goal has always been that all bills must be able to be paid on either of our salaries. (no kids at home and DW works) We always pay off our loans early.

Growing up in the 50's and 60's my parents took us out to eat maybe once a year, even on vacations we always brought a cooler along with sandwiches. I only remember one vacation that did not include staying at relatives homes. My wife and I go out to eat 2-3 times a week and take 2 or 3 vacations a year and never stay with relatives. Admittedly DW and I are both professionals (white collar workers) and my father was blue collar and Mom didn't work until I was in High School - also a blue collar job, so we have more money than my parents did however my wife's parents were both professionals and had money but they did the same as my parents did, ate at home, vacationed with relatives.

Well. we've been meaning to say something about that............

Banks, finance companies, Consumer companies of all kinds have promoted instant gratification, easy credit, 'you deserve this', 'have it now for only $x.xx a month' They've been told all their life that they 'Need' this or that item to be fulfilled, to be sexy, to be popular, etc through commercials. What do you expect? (being a general statement and not directed at anyone in this thread)

From the welfare programs "Providing the Lords Way": "The purpose of Church welfare is to .... Sustain life, not lifestyle" The Bishop would have been within his rights to refuse assistance. My Bishop will not pay cable bills or credit card bills - period and I agree with him.

No one is stating PPI's should not be done, only that they should not be done monthly for every member of the quorum as the OP stated his EQ President wanted.