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  1. Interesting, although most EV scholars I know would just write it off as "liberal" like they do anything else that contradicts their viewpoint. That's interesting though that a non-Mormon commentary would come up with the Mormon view of the creation story on it's own.I have something to think about. If we assume arguendo that paladism is a "deeper doctrine" of Mormonism to what extent does it compare to the version that is believed by Kaballists, Judaism, Freemasons, Luciferians, etc.? For instance, if we compare the views of Mackey, Pike, Levi, Acquino, Crowley, the Zohar, etc. (or any other source that has written on the subject) with what was believed by Brigham Young or maybe even our apostolic leaders today, would there be a wide variety of views or is it all pretty much consistent? For instance, current LDS doctrine has Lucifer as a tempter and tester but is punished for his rebellion in the end of the age. Has this always been so, or was LDS doctrine at one time more consistent with the above sources? I'm just wondering to what extent Masonic authors (like Mackey, Pike, and Levi) may have contributed to early Mormon thought, with the church's close affiliation with Freemasonry in the Nauvoo period. Currently what is being taught by our opponents, like Dekker and Schnoebelen, is that paladism is the "great secret" doctrine that all "secret" societies are trying to keep from the masses, and that Lucifer worship is the goal of some mass one-world "conspiracy." I think apologetics would come a long way in silencing these critics if the proper comparisons were made, maybe in book form. I think the masonic elements still present in our church automatically cause Dekker and Schnoebelen to tie us in with Pike, Levi, Mackey, etc.
  2. Check out "Dynasty of the Holy Grail" by Vern Grosvenor Swanson. The doctrine presented by some of the GAs at that time was not only that Jesus was married but that the GAs of the church are decendents of Christ.
  3. Has anyone on here ever read any quotes from Albert Pike, Albert Mackey, Eliphas Levi, and other Masonic authors? I often wonder if early Masonic thought on the subject may have influenced early Mormonism. (or vice versa?) It seems that paladism and the belief that Lucifer was the Holy Ghost was a common topic among some of these authors and the fact that one cannot exist without the other. Sort of a "necessary evil" approach. While Mormonism doesn't go to the extreme of this doctrine we still have the "opposition in all things" doctrine and the idea that evil is necessary for us to have good. We would never know happiness if we didn't know sadness. In the protestant world they think that evil exists only because of Satan's rebellion and man's depravity, and many think we would have been better off had Adam and Eve not have fallen.
  4. bjw

    Hi All!

    Hi all, my name is Brian, I live in the Central Valley of California (in Manteca, near the Bay Area and Sacramento). I work in education and am on the team of a development project in my local area. My interests include music, watching pro wrestling, studying theology, piano, guitar, and my biggest passion is theme parks. It looks like we have a wide variety here on the new message board. I have been a member of the church for just under three years now and have enjoyed it. I look forward to discussing the Gospel with you all on the board.