Maya

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  1. Thanks guys.. time forme to go zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz so bee god while I am gone. This really looks ok froum.. some interesting threads too! Probably working 13 hours tomorrow so see ya.... The avatar is my boat at my summerhome in Finland...
  2. This is a very interesting subject. I have a tendency to think He was marriedand plural marriage in those days was in practice. About him beeing crusified because of that... hmm... it was a practice amongst the Judish people... why would he be crusified for it. Then again one of the raeasons to JS martyr death was the quetion of blacks... but that either is nowhere to be seen. They feraed he will let all slaves go. Even though it has been preached from the Tabernacle it IS NOT an official doctorine.More like reading the Liahona. It wont be a doctorine before it is taken to generalmeeting and accepted as one. I am sure no one will be salvation or denied it on behave of his/her thoughts about Jeus marriage. We need to believe what the profet says today. If it is important to know it now, I am sure God will tell us about it now! But it is a very interesting question! I think it is important to look humbly at these kind of questions and agree on how little we know and how little we understand and that at the understanding I now posess I think He was married, but it does not deminish the possibility of me being wrong.... and that is quite ok.
  3. This discussion reminds me of the book of Judas.... It was nessesary to have a Juudas, he had to do what he did or the plan hard not functioned at all... In the book it says Jesus told him to do it, and he did it because he was the ONLY one that understood how important it was to do it. He was very close to Jeus. Jesus promised him high place after death.... Interesting! They say that Judases Book is really mixing the cristianitys beliefs...but not ours!
  4. I think... that time we probably have already used up all spirits... so even if we were fertile again.... there would not be any babyes. After all there are ALL those kids that died when stil under 8 to grow up.... I think we will have our hands full of work... Probably would have to wait for our own world to have more kids by our own Adam and Eve.... Just a thought...
  5. My oldest daughter was ok til she got 16. She was very LDS... then she made a sudden turn quite unexpectedly and ... got pregnant. She married the guy got an other baby after 5 years but devorced too. You never know about youth.. all you can do is pray. My second knew to use prevention which was given to her freely from healtservices at the age of 14 without her moms knowing anything. My sons are still ok. The older told that he walks away if he sees a certain gang around computer. I just hope the other one does that too... Forgiveness in those sinns is difficult. World says it is ok if you are not married and if you married and cant take it so devorce... Easy isnt it! But I do not believe they really know, how much it destroys and can hurt the relationships then or later. It is difficult as the world do not see the importance and meaning of marriage and pure singlelife.... Like someone here said there are many ways to brake that law not only sex before marriage or with an other partner but pornography and probably you should add molesting of children to it too... isnt that a sexual act too? My ex had childpornography magazines I hated that. But still there is promised forgiveness to everyone who will repend...totally! Not forget but repend. Just my 5 pence worth...
  6. So here we are .... looks like a nice place. I been answering many topics... but there are sooo many of us here that I think it might be better I say HI to all refugies, like my self and say HI to all new ones in my intro. I am a woman who should stil work some 10 years before pension. I am a leader of a small kindergarten and that means I lead it and I also lead a group of children. This means work, work and work.... I suffer from dysleksi and dysgraphi ... so that is why my letters are jumpy... why my English is not that good and I dont always find right words is because ... English is my 3rd language. I live in Norway (my Norwegean is even worse) And I lived my first 30 years in Finland and go with a Finnish pasport. I been always very religious. I was a sundayschoolteacher to kids since I was 17. A really "good girl". I married at 25. Had a kid, wondered is this all life has to offer us, is it going to be like this the rest of my life, isnt there anything better? Met the missionaries... lovedthe gospel! I knew there was something better! After a few years got an other kid, devorced my ex who was very much against the Church. Made me read all kinds of anti stuff. Found a wonderfull man a Norwegean, a member of the Church. Got two wonderful boys that have been a real pleasure to be a mother to. (Even though the younger has problems with school... do not want to attend). Been in primary/childrensroom some 25 years. A good friend of mine asked help in a forum once... there were a lot of people writting anti stuff and I went to help her. I still hang there sometimes and may ask some questions here, that you may think are faith tearing.... but I do that only to get help to answer the questions they have. My faith is strong, but my faith in me doing right is not strong.... BTW I should hold a speach next sunday of sister Pearsons speach in May Liahona...the conference one... UH! So got married.... For 5 years I tought NO ONE could be happier than I was, my hubby was in stake leadership and then sudenly my life just crashed down. All my dreams were brutally torn away from me by a few words of confession. I tought a lot about what was right to do when your aim is in the eternity with your Hevenly Father and your family and came in to the conclution that forgiveness is a must in order to be able to live eternally in front of my Savior and His Father. Also I had to think of my kids. Knowing how difficult it would be for me to teach them the rigt way alone, I decided to keep the family together with all powers I had. After 9 years however my family was torn apart. God forgives, but the people dont. You might say I lost the two oldest children because of evel whispering telling them, there should not be any forgivenes and that I am a fool and stupid, if not a lawbreaker myself, because I still am keeping the rest of the family together. Many times I wonder what the ** am I doing. Life would be so much easier at least to me, if I just would pack up and leave. But I cant push away the very first feeling of peace I got the very first time I learned about the confession. I tought we can do it.... now I am not so sure we can. Not mentioning the powerful dream I had before even meeting my hubby. I dont see devorce as a sollution, it is an escape of things you have to face one day anyway. We lived apart for a while a few years all together and my sons missed their father enormously and I missed him too. The bad thing about that was, that we grew away from each other quite a lot and I honestly cant say we have so much incommon any more. Even though everything seems to get slowly back to its place, I feel very insecure, expecting something to come an destroy everything again. I know there has been many who think I made wrong decitions... many in Church here and I felt their contempt. I have been forced to freeze my feelings in many things, like grandchildren, which I cant meet, as the mother thinks she did not get enough what she wanted as a child, youth.... I am just so tired I would like to just sleep, sleep and sleep... I feel like a bypasser looking at everyone having fun behind the fence. I dream to see the lands of the Book of Mormon one day and visit SL and to send my sons out to mission. I take each day as it comes and dont excpect anything of tomorrow. Sorry got a bit long... oh one thing I forgot, warning: ... hardlife needs rough humor... I shoot with hard bullets sometimes... not meaning to hurt anyone. Love you guys and I am thankful if you can tolerate me here.
  7. HI Gardner! Here is a friend from the other board. It was good to fiond so many I know from before her!
  8. Hi there ... meee tooo... I hope we get it nice here looks like a new board... that is better that way!
  9. Hi Small voice... I wish they would make a storhouse around here too...I wouldlove to work there. Many here think we do not help members as we should as we have no storehouse within thousands of miles... I also was on the other forum...
  10. Guten Dag MorningStar. Ich bin Maya. Grossmutter mich ein Deucher war . Hmmm I lost the language I could perfectly as 6 year old. That is a lifetime ago. Been seing in the other board....
  11. Hi Peg ... you sound almost like me asI found the church! It was a joy to read The Book of Mormon. SO many things that I could understand more clarely and SO many things that strengthened my belief in God that I found with my first reading the book!! Nice to meet you!
  12. Hi Selek... an other refugee from the other forum... Thanks for the very fine words you have written here. I really enjoyed this post. "They start with the assumption that if the Church is true, it must therefore be perfect. They lose sight of the fact that the Church is not a resort for the perfected, but a hospital for the sick. Though its origins and commission are divine, it is manned and ministered by flawed, mortal men- and will therefore eternally fall short of the ideal." So right you are... Will write more of this in my intro.. when I get to it... Sometimes life can be sooo difficult... all the choises.... what is right.... I dontquite believe in Donny Osmonds words ; life is what you make of it ..... but more of it later... Good to see you and so many others I know here....