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And you don't see the connection there? ...drinking culture.

Because the LDS church is the truth. ...or it is false. And regards to banning drinking Tea, does it alter the consumer's mindset and conscious?

This is the last I'll say on this Mini Euro nonsense. I have never met a Puerto Rican or Brazillian resident call themself 'American' when referring to continent, it's always been 'South American' - yes, technically they are 'American' but culturally South American Americans do not see themselves as the same as their Northern Neighbours. And, I wasn't trying to paint NZ out as a part of Europe other than to point out that NZ share alot of cultural aspects derived from Europe and Great Brittian. Yet you dismissed my assertion of NZ being cuturally simular because you wanted to dismiss my realtime stat and fact sheet of alcohol's effects on our country, maintaining the mindset that 'hey, if it's fine in Europe - it should be fine here too' but I'm sorry if you aren't located in Europe then I'm sorry you don't count. I couldn't speak for Europe or anyone of from one those nations but I could only speak for my own country. But lets see what Google says in support of Europe's utopian ways toward its historic and prestigious drinking culture. Italy Pressures mount as binge-drinking hits Italy | Reuters Looks like Italy is becoming no longer the benchmark for responsible drinking eh? France France fears binge drinking bug has arrived - Telegraph Germany Association of Average Daily Alcohol Consumption, Binge Drinking and Alcohol-Related Social Problems: Results from the German Epidemiological Surveys of Substance Abuse -- Kraus et al. 44 (3): 314 -- Alcohol and Alcoholism Binge Drinking In Childhood And Adolescence, Germany Brittian Do we even need to go there? Scandinavia Cheap Alcohol Causes Problems in Scandinavia Finland Finland ups its alcohol tax to curb binge drinking | IceNews - Daily News But then again, its just media trying to sell papers right?

Regardless, alcohol is a psychoactive drug, which is the main issue for me.

No, alcohol is a narcotic drug and is a mind altering substance. Big difference.

Who said anything about maori people or culture? Yuur comments demonstrate how little you know about NZ culture. Maori cultture is merely an accepted token of it's former self, and has nothing to do with what I commenting on in regards to the evident effects of alcohol on society in general as a whole, I'm not referring to it's effects on a certain race or demographic, other than the general society itself.

I'm sorry but ethnicity and minority ethnicity has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with drunk driving. And you keep referring to Europe as if it hadn't gone through the dark ages for hundreds of years.

What you should be saying is 81% of adults drink, and 50% of kids drink, 50% of kids drink!!... and if you don't find those figures staggering then thats just sad.

Err so have we, its the reason for our 'drinking culture' a society that drinks culturally is a society that has a drinking culture, period. geographic location and history has nothing to do with much regarding the article as its the deregulation and industralization of alcohol and its ultimate effect on society that is the issue here. So moot point.

Yet, it was a comment made by an American resident and not someone living anywhere near Europe. And no, we are not just mini Euro, as we were colonised by Brittian, are a part of the commonwealth and still acknowledge the crown. By blanketing Europe culturally as one whole entitiy in itself is ignorance and shows how little you know of anything outside the US, it's like labelling Brazillians and Purto Ricans as Americans. And then to dismiss other wannabe mini Euros is just dumb, as Europe is made up of many individual nations, of which many of those nations governed and conqured other nations all around the globe.

If so, then why the need for more availbilty? the bar owner in the article didn't seem to think Utah had a drinking culture at all due to tight regulations. Not true, I live in New Zealand, and here, we have modelled many of our societal social habits off Brittian, (NZ is like a mini Europe) one being its 'drinking culture' and right now teens drinking alcohol is a part of that culture, eventhough its illegal. The industralization of alcohol to extensive consumer availability of it has sprouted many many problems, from drunk driving to under age drinking to binge drinking - you name it, we have it and we are now looking to regulate it back to some form of civillity, as was with the case with smoking. Resources | NZ Statistic Regarding alcohol taboo, so it should be. The problem with alcohol is that it is both a narcotic and an addictive substance , so don't believe the hype about responsible alcohol use, we here in New Zealand are hearing everyday how someone gets behind the wheel over the drinking limit and kills someone or drunk teens, or even just recently how a 4 year old girl gets sexually abused by a national celebrity who says he was drunk. You cannot control something that has the properties to control you.

No, what it does is create a drinking culture.

Healthcare reform passes, I live in NZ where we have Govt run FREE-for all healthcare and I feel sorry for America.

Of course you can chalk it up to being human, and being tempted thats the expected part of mans existance. The fall (the seperation) was essential. But you cannot excuse that fact. If god was phsyically present all of time we would learn much in theory, but little in practice, we will learn much about faith but know nothing about it, its the same in regards to ur other thread, without being seperated from god we would never really know him. Its like when we live at home, growing up, and then we leave home n' get married or whatever, we then know and appreciate our parents 100x more than when we lived at home.

No, even as infants we know of hunger before we know what hunger is, theses type of revelations are not dogma. We know what feels good and what doesnt quite early on in life even before we gain a mental knowledge, that feeling is a spiritual action not a mental one, you dig?

The sky is the limit for Glenn now, the only possibilty for downfall is himself and staying true to those principles hes set in stone now. I hope him all the best.

Actually, there needs to be a fall before repentence, as was brought about with the Fall of Adam, which we know happened in the absence of god. The absence of god therefore brings about choice, faith and individual knowledge. We do know god, even if we do not know or think we do, we were all endowed with this at birth as our spirits are made of god-like material, and we have a 'divine' nature to know what 'feels' good and bad, that sense and small piece of knowledge in itself is a confirmation of our spiritual embodiment endorsing a living god.