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  1. So, I have been searching documentation and/or a source from official church sources to back up the notion that a general authority does need a recommend to enter the temple, but such, is a lifetime recommend and does not expire. Does anyone know where I can find this information, or anything to expose something completely different? Thank you in advance for your assistance.
  2. Well, Christmas was...interesting. Conversation with my family at Christmas: A family member uses the word "mormon" while another family member uses the word "LDS" to describe our church and ask if we were still members and attending. My 16 year old lovingly tried to correct them with some of the suggested tips President Nelson asked us to use regarding the name change. After they apologized and started asking her some questions about the church and some of her activities she's been involved in lately in and out of the church they asked where they could go to get some of the information she was talking about. "!" she excitedly told them. Cue the eyebrow lift in my direction on their end. A few more minutes go by. Then we pulled the Bible out to read the Nativity story for Christmas. My son asked if we could watch the movie too. My family said, "the movie?" "Yeah!" he replied. "Where can we find it?" they asked. "" Now I was getting THE LOOK from them. i just let them have it. What can you POSSIBLY say to that other than "you win!" They laughed. I laughed. At least they know I believe in Jesus. *Sigh* Sink down in chair. Conversation with kids on the way back to where we were staying: "Maybe as we visit more family members this week we just NOT hit on certain subjects, okay?" My now humbled 16 year old. "Done." Please share your funny The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (gulp for breath) name change stories.
  3. In the string @Grunt started about a question by an investigator, the dilemma of how we know when the spiritual sense we have is true--that it is the Holy Spirit speaking to us--came up. Immediately my Protestant background kicked in and I thought: sola scriptura. The Bible is the final authority. No prompting of the Spirit will contradict it. Then I considered Catholicism. A friend of mine converted to that faith, and says he no longer claims the right to interpret scripture--that the church leadership has that authority. Then I remembered the beliefs of my friends here. Members do interpret scripture, but they look beyond the Bible. They also follow the modern prophets of the church, sometimes quoting from their speeches and writings. So...what is the answer when there is uncertainty about a spiritual prompting? Pray? Go to scriptures? Consider the sayings of the prophets? If so, what's the "go to" order?
  4. Several Sundays ago, we were asked to review the Conference talks from last April to help us prepare for the upcoming Conference. I was in the middle of reading a talk from President Nelson when this jumped out and bit me...... President Nelson said "We live in a world that is complex and increasingly contentious. The constant availability of social media and a 24-hour news cycle bombard us with relentless messages. If we are to have any hope of sifting through the myriad of voices and the philosophies of men that attack truth, we must learn to receive revelation." I know I have heard these things over and over before, but these words just seemed to jump off the page......"increasingly contentious", "bombard us with relentless messages", "philosophies of men that attack truth," it just hits home a big more this time. And to jump into another paragraph...... "But in coming days, it will not be possible to survive spiritually without the guiding, directing, comforting, and constant influence of the Holy Ghost." We have been told for years that things are going to become worse and worse before the Second Coming, and we need to build and sustain our faith.... and here is our prophet giving us a dire warning that it will not be possible to survive spiritually unless we are really tight with the Holy Ghost and learn to listen and obey. With all the lies, contention, discontent, and venomous hatred we are subject to in our nation alone...... those words from our Prophet Nelson" we must learn to receive revelation." Are there more important words to prepare us?
  5. We accept the writings of past prophets (Moses, Isaiah, Nephi, etc.) as scripture, as divine revelation from God. We also accept many of the writings of Joseph Smith as scripture. We believe that prophets speak the word of God, and we have scripture to back that up, such as "whether by my own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same." We also understand that prophets are fallible mortals, just like the rest of us, except that they have a special calling to receive divine revelation. As fallible mortals, not everything they say can or should be accepted as scripture, right? I mean, if I'm talking sports with President Monson, and I ask him who he thinks is going to win the next basketball tournament, and he says he thinks the Lakers have the best chance because of this player or that coach or whatever else, I'd still be a fool to bet my life savings on the Lakers unless the outcome of the tournament somehow had something to do with the eternal salvation of mankind. But where is that line? Aside from feeling the Spirit, how can we define what should or should not be heeded as divine revelation? For example, Brigham Young was recorded in a Journal of Discourses as having said that Adam is God. (I did read the actual passage. He says that Adam is our father, which is true from a genealogical standpoint, and he says that Adam was part of the creation of the world as Michael the Archangel, which can also be confirmed by scriptural references. But then he seems to refer to Adam as "our god and the only god...") This is contradictory to church teachings and scriptures, but it was taught by a prophet. Assuming the quote is accurate, was Brigham Young wrong, or was he prophesying falsely? That's just one example. There are others, like something I heard about descendants of the Nephites' skin turning pale after they join the church (doesn't happen) or about blacks never receiving priesthood authority. I'm not concerned about those points specifically. Just trying to figure out how to discern divine revelation from the errors of man. Any ideas? (I'm sure this question has been answered before, but I can't seem to find a thread for it. A friend asked me, and I had no good answer for him, which made me wonder the same thing.)
  6. Something I have pondered and thought would be best for a general discussion rather than an LDS Gospel Thread. I find it interesting that Peter was the Prophet upon the death of Christ, yet, we have very little written by Peter. We have more of Paul's words, who wasn't the prophet, which gives way to the idea that revealed word, doesn't always come from the Lord's prophet. Is there anything written as to why Peter's words were not written? Maybe similar to Samuel the Lamanite and the Lord appearing asking the Nephites why they had not written the words of Samuel?
  7. This is a topic that has been on my mind for the last week or so, and I thought I'd make some comments and solicit others' thoughts. It started with this essay by James Faulconer: In particular, I really noticed his opening couplet: I saw a blog entry by Dan Peterson calling the "doctrine" of prophetic infallibility "heresy". It sometimes seems to me that we as LDS sometimes struggle with the "conflict" between "Follow the Prophet, he knows the way" and our own need to discern when the prophets/apostles are speaking for God and when they are giving their own opinion. In many ways, the "extremes" are the easy positions to maintain. If the prophets are completely infallible, then we need put no effort into building our own testimony, because we simply accept everything they speak/write. At the other extreme, if they are never right, then we can simply reject everything that they teach. It seems that the "truth" lies in the difficult region in between these extremes. They have a calling and ordination that gives them the right to revelation to teach me truth, but these teaching will come amidst their own peculiar life circumstances and experiences that make their teachings potentially biased, and maybe even erroneous. Sometimes I think this is further complicated by the Church's practice of "correlation". Some believe that everything published by the Church must be "truth" because it has "been approved for publication by the 1st Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve. I wonder if this really "the truth". I know for me that there are certain topics and teachings that I cannot say that I "have a testimony" of the Church's official position. Some things I see taught in certain publications (such as the Ensign and other magazines, For the Strenght of Youth, lesson manuels, etc.) seem in error to me, and some seem questionable. Others, I choose to follow along hoping that they are more in tune than I am (which would not necessarily be difficult) Maybe these things are examples of "prophetic fallibility", but maybe they are also examples of ways in which I am "leading myself astray". Discernment, and how we approach the process of discernment can become a very important question. That's kind of where my mind is at today. Anyone with thoughts or observations of their own?
  8. According to this Church News article: LDS Church News - Video: Joseph Smith, prophet of the restoration, the move Joseph Smith: Prophet of the Restoration received a major overhaul in 2011, and the new version (2011) has replaced the old version (2005). I saw the movie in the Legacy Theater on Temple Square back when they were showing the original (2005). I have since watched the revised version (2011), and I did not like it as much. The original (2005) movie had the feel of a feature film, where the new movie (2011) has the feel of a really long sunday school video. Having seen both versions, I wanted to obtain a copy of the original (2005) to add to my personal library. However, I have not been able to find it. It appears that at one point, the 2005 version was available on the Doctrine & Convenants and Church History Visual Resource DVDs, but that is no longer the case. I purchased a copy this week, and the DVD now contains the new (2011) version of the film. Does anyone know where I can obtain a copy of the original (2005) version of the film? I have found a few YouTube videos of it, but all of them seem to be ripped below DVD quality. And as a side note, am I alone in thinking that the original version of the film was better than the revised version?