lovemykids Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 I need some advice with an issue that actually concerns this site...What would you do if you knew that someone on this site was presenting themselves as a completely different person than who they really are...??? This isn't a small issue, this person is convicted of a crime...a very serious one at that...and seems to have forgotten what they did...I don't know what to do? I just signed up on this site and am really not comfortable staying on if this other person continues to do so...which is fine...but I cannot sit and watch this person try to fool others and deceive...I would never openly say who or what...but is there anything that can be done??? It is a harsh reality that there are people out there who are just not honest...I need to learn that NO MATTER WHAT, I cannot control the actions of others and I am not responsible to judge anyone...But on this issue, I almost feel that it is an issue of safety...
siouxz72 Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 well... is it something that they've atoned for? and is it possible that this person could have changed? and that they are respresenting who they really are now?
Lbybug Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 i'd suggest sending a message to the mods and they can monitor the situation
Getaclue Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 well... is it something that they've atoned for? and is it possible that this person could have changed? and that they are respresenting who they really are now?not a chance in OUTER DARKNESS... lovemykids - call your ward leaders and report what you know... I know what your talking about...as leaders in the church we are to 1st to learn about child abuse and keep informed on it. and 2nd we need to protect the child and from what I have seen so far on this site and this members actions he is so full of it and so misleading people on here and after reading his blog he is still harming his children and I believe committing more crimes and breaking the restraining order. 3rd we are to help the offender to repent of his sins and on this one Im having a hard time... a guy like this needs to Burn in the OUT DARKNESS IMHO the savor hit the nail on the head when he said a mill stone should be tied around the neck and the person should be drowned at the bottom of the seas.
Gwen Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 i agree with the suggestion to send a message to the mods....if there is truely a safety issue the only way it can be delt with is if we know. it is also why we warn about safety and encourage safety guidelines....under terms of agreement...."Please choose carefully the information you post on LDS.NET and that you provide to other Users. You may NOT include any of the following information anywhere on LDS.NET, including private messages: telephone numbers, street addresses, last names,..." (a link to this can be found on every page with the site rules)this has also been provided..... http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-net-admin-alerts/11211-internet-safety.html
StrawberryFields Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 Interesting. Just a few days ago I felt prompted to make a post in the internet safety thread about this topic. Ilovemykids, If you know the specific person and they are on this site why would you not say who it is? Maybe you could tell the crime this person committed. If you worried about the safety of members here maybe a heads up or warning about a general behavior of this personcould be helpful?
Getaclue Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 · Hidden Hidden will I will bite the bullet and tell you who it is... CGRANTREED he is serving a Prison sentence in the State of Idaho for Molesting his Children. the funny thing is I have received a infraction for calling him out already and I'm sure the Mods are going to send me packing... why are we protecting a person like this? I am very active on other forums on the net and know how things work. but really the people in charge of this site should not put up with a member that is bashing on his wife on here and also being false to all of us.
Canuck Mormon Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 That's the problem with the INTERNET, the anonymity of it. If you have specific proof of this then send it to a mod or Heather so that it can be verified. If it is true, then it will be handled.
Getaclue Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 That's the problem with the INTERNET, the anonymity of it. If you have specific proof of this then send it to a mod or Heather so that it can be verified. If it is true, then it will be handled.will do... both the Bishop and Stake Pres are aware of what is going on... and I hope soon the State of Idaho will also since some of the pictures and the blog post are infractions of the law.
mikey9a Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 So if I understand correctly, You are referring to someone whom you know personally on this site that you can identify as for sure it is this actual person. Then you say he/she has been convicted of a crime. And then you know that he/she has not repented of this sin and is in fact now trying to be a better person by congregating with fellow LDS members around the world. You say that you are uncomfortable with this person being online. This is called judgment. This person is going to live their life as they see fit. I suggest you do the same. I am surrounded in this church by people who can't let the sins of others go. Especially the small ones. (not suggesting that this crime is small.) The idea that you wouldn't be able to interact with the good people on this site because of another person on this site tells me more about you that the other person. (read prodigal son). You can't let the actions of others allow yourself to be poisoned with the pride of judgment. That is Satan's greatest tool. If he can get us to look at others instead of our own. From your statement this person is already convicted of a crime. Unless this person is now trying to commit another I would ignore them. If you have some proof that this person is doing something inappropriate at home or church go to the authorities, but this sounds liike a case of "I can't believe this" scenario. Most of the comments on this post surprised me. Calling cops, identifying someone for allegedly no being themselves? uh hummm. Kind of scary. No one on this page is using their real name. I doubt a lot of you would want to be exposed because someone else thinks you should be on here. Just some thoughts.
thejason Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 People lie on the internet?? No way!! If he's not doing anything illegal or immoral then I'm not sure he's in the wrong. The people he talks to have a responsibility to use common sense and caution.
Lbybug Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 i agree with jason here (shocker). let the mods deal with it. they can monitor the situation and if someone brings up something that needs to be looked at, then it can be dealt with. as for saying the blogs and photos are an infraction of the law, let the law deal with that. i'm not saying that the alleged crimes you are saying this person commited are ok, but if it's something you feel needs to be dealt with, and he's in prison and doing things from prison he shouldn't be, bring it to the attention of the people who can do something about it.
thejason Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 i agree with jason here (shocker).I just fell off my chair.
Honor Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 (edited) There are always two sides to every story and it would be really easy for anybody to make claims (true or not) about another person. If there is really a genuine concern for the safety of others on the site, the issue should be taken to those who can actually do something about it - with the site, the church or law enforcement. I can understand asking for advice on the proper way to go about it, but turning the thread into a public trial of this guy is pointless. The administrators have access to everything that goes on here and if claims are verified I'm positive they would make sure that anybody involved is aware of the situation. I don't want to take anything away from the opinions and emotions of those who are expressing their worry, because they're obviously genuinely motivated, but I'd be careful about letting things get out of hand. This isn't a personal conversation between two people, it's public. There has obviously been a lot of suffering involved with the situation - there's no point in rehashing it all on here. Edited August 30, 2008 by Honor
Lbybug Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 i agree. asking for advice on how to deal with the situation is one thing. turning it into a public trial is another. we all have sins. we all make mistakes. let those who can actually do something about the situation do it.
StrawberryFields Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 The person who can do the most about it is the 'sinner' or one who committed the crime. You mentioned dishonesty and people can represent anything to anyone online. Last night I was watching a news show about Charles Manson. He is one scary person and he was able to get followers left and right and many of them are women. Just know that we all have reason to be cautious. The other day I was in chat and a 'guy' came in and asked for my name. I said StrawberryFields and he said that isn't a name and continued that he would go on to find someone more forthright. I wished him luck with that and he got a lil miffed. I said all you will get from me is StrawberryFields, SF, Berry, Fields, or maybe Strawberry. Seriously, go with your gut; if you feel like you are being pushed in anyway just walk away so to speak. :)
john doe Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 This situation is being looked at by the mod team, and I am closing this thread. Ilovemykids, would you mind messaging me or Pam about this situation?
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