john doe Posted November 1, 2004 Report Posted November 1, 2004 This is for the men of the board. Do any of you find it odd that women of the board don't get their knickers in a knot over abortion? Is it just me or do they sit there not contributing to the conversation? Women seem to just not care too much about the issue. My thought on this is how much of the decisions do women get upset over because at least the men have opinions and choose to voice them. Quote
Winnie G Posted November 1, 2004 Report Posted November 1, 2004 AH I was there My body my choice. :) Quote
john doe Posted November 1, 2004 Author Report Posted November 1, 2004 Yes, you were there, even when you were making that baby. That "fun" you were having comes with a responsibility. I know you liberals don't like that fact, but it's true. And what about that baby? Shouldn't it have a voice in whether or not you should kill it? Quote
Spencer Posted November 1, 2004 Report Posted November 1, 2004 Originally posted by Winnie G@Nov 1 2004, 11:13 AM AH I was there My body my choice. :) A little selfish dont you think? I think a man has every right to his opinion on wether or not his child will be born.your body your choice. bah! Quote
DisRuptive1 Posted November 1, 2004 Report Posted November 1, 2004 Sadly the world doesn't work that way. It's all up to the women, the women get the power. The only thing we can do to help mankind in general is to leave any women that have children which we don't want. It's either the children or us. But we're screwed doing this too, because then the court slaps on 18 years of child support. Quote
Jenda Posted November 1, 2004 Report Posted November 1, 2004 Originally posted by DisRuptive1@Nov 1 2004, 10:51 AM Sadly the world doesn't work that way. It's all up to the women, the women get the power. The only thing we can do to help mankind in general is to leave any women that have children which we don't want. It's either the children or us. But we're screwed doing this too, because then the court slaps on 18 years of child support. Your post should be coupled with Winnie's and the answer would still be RESPONSIBILITY. Why are you even thinking about having sex with someone if that thought doesn't also surround any child that might be produced out of that one moment of selfishness? Do you know how to say CONDOM??? Quote
Winnie G Posted November 1, 2004 Report Posted November 1, 2004 My point is why do men seem to get so railed up over it? Since women make that decision wrong or right, men seem to scream the loudest? By the way, I would never choose to have one, so Back off and get your own Uterus! Quote
john doe Posted November 1, 2004 Author Report Posted November 1, 2004 Originally posted by Winnie G@Nov 1 2004, 02:52 PM My point is why do men seem to get so railed up over it?Since women make that decision wrong or right, men seem to scream the loudest? By the way, I would never choose to have one, so Back off and get your own Uterus! Why do the men on this board get riled up about it? Probably because they are generally responsible adults who recognize that men contribute to the making of babies. The responsible thing to do as a man after he has participated in making a baby is to do what he can to ensure the well-being of that baby. When a woman decides to kill that baby, it upsets most responsible men who may want to keep that baby alive. That is, except for Disruptive, sometimes I believe that he wishes he were aborted himself. Apparently he hasn't heard of self-control. Quote
DisRuptive1 Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 one moment of selfishness?One moment is a whole lot better than a lifetime of selfishness like a woman would have when she chooses to have a child even though the father said he would not help raise the child. Quote
Guest Unorthodox Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 All life is sacred. Except that one time when God flooded the earth. Quote
Lindy Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 Originally posted by Spencer+Nov 1 2004, 09:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spencer @ Nov 1 2004, 09:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Winnie G@Nov 1 2004, 11:13 AM AH I was there My body my choice. :) A little selfish dont you think? I think a man has every right to his opinion on wether or not his child will be born.your body your choice. bah! I agree with you Spencer....the father has....or should have a voice in any decision made regarding his flesh and blood....I think that the sad reality is that so many fathers don't have a choice in the matter.....and that is a reality that they have to live with for the rest of their lives as well. I have talked to some guys who were devestated because they couldn't do anything to stop someone from destroying their child. There is part of me that just want's to haul off and wallop some of these so called "women" who think nothing of responsibility, oops....pregnant? No prob.....I'll just take care of it. Dis....... I'm not going to say anything since I would regret saying itThe only thing we can do to help mankind in general is to leave any women that have children which we don't want. It's either the children or us. But we're screwed doing this too, because then the court slaps on 18 years of child support. I have to say something .........SELF CONTROL. .....children we don't want?.....I'm going to be sick ....18 years of child support?......Oh BOO FRICKIN HOO!One moment is a whole lot better than a lifetime of selfishness like a woman would have when she chooses to have a child even though the father said he would not help raise the child. ? I'm going to stop myself now......grrrrrrr Quote
Guest bat Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 Originally posted by john doe@Nov 1 2004, 08:08 AM This is for the men of the board.Do any of you find it odd that women of the board don't get their knickers in a knot over abortion?Is it just me or do they sit there not contributing to the conversation?Women seem to just not care too much about the issue.My thought on this is how much of the decisions do women get upset over because at least the men have opinions and choose to voice them. Well, since it's the women that are the ones that have to make the decision as to wheter or not they want to have a baby or not, that seems about right.We, as non child bearing men, should force our opinions on them, and possibly enact laws that prohibit them from having an opinion or a choice in the matter. That would seem to be the xtian thing to do. Quote
Guest bat Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 Originally posted by john doe@Nov 1 2004, 09:07 AM Yes, you were there, even when you were making that baby. That "fun" you were having comes with a responsibility. I know you liberals don't like that fact, but it's true. And what about that baby? Shouldn't it have a voice in whether or not you should kill it? If it has an opinon, it should speak up. Have you ever heard an unborn child voice an opinion? I haven't. Bye bye, unborn baby. We should devote our time more to goldfishes. Shouldn't they have a voice as to whether they should be sold as Cichlid food? Those poor goldfishes! We must save them! And the trees too! And maybe some rocks or something! Quote
Guest bat Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 Originally posted by Spencer+Nov 1 2004, 09:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spencer @ Nov 1 2004, 09:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Winnie G@Nov 1 2004, 11:13 AM AH I was there My body my choice. :) A little selfish dont you think? I think a man has every right to his opinion on wether or not his child will be born.your body your choice. bah! Wrong dork boy. If you want to make the decision to carry and deliver a baby, then by all means, do it. Don't think that it's your place EVER to tell another person that they have to do that. It's not your business, nor is it your concern. If you want babies to be born so badly, go get pregnant. Otherwise, shut up. Quote
Guest bat Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 Originally posted by DisRuptive1@Nov 1 2004, 10:51 AM Sadly the world doesn't work that way. It's all up to the women, the women get the power. The only thing we can do to help mankind in general is to leave any women that have children which we don't want. It's either the children or us. But we're screwed doing this too, because then the court slaps on 18 years of child support. Dude, don't have children. Really. Quote
Guest bat Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 Originally posted by Jenda+Nov 1 2004, 01:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jenda @ Nov 1 2004, 01:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--DisRuptive1@Nov 1 2004, 10:51 AM Sadly the world doesn't work that way. It's all up to the women, the women get the power. The only thing we can do to help mankind in general is to leave any women that have children which we don't want. It's either the children or us. But we're screwed doing this too, because then the court slaps on 18 years of child support. Your post should be coupled with Winnie's and the answer would still be RESPONSIBILITY. Why are you even thinking about having sex with someone if that thought doesn't also surround any child that might be produced out of that one moment of selfishness? Do you know how to say CONDOM??? Condoms are great, but they aren't 100% effective. If a condom should break or fail, kill it. That is what god would want. He's killed millions of babies. GOd likes the killing of babies. It's in the Bible. Somewhere in the back. Quote
Guest bat Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 Originally posted by Winnie G@Nov 1 2004, 01:52 PM My point is why do men seem to get so railed up over it?Since women make that decision wrong or right, men seem to scream the loudest? By the way, I would never choose to have one, so Back off and get your own Uterus! I agree with Winnie. Spencer got his own uterus so he could have babies, the rest of you should too. Or shut up! Quote
Guest bat Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 Originally posted by john doe+Nov 1 2004, 03:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (john doe @ Nov 1 2004, 03:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Winnie G@Nov 1 2004, 02:52 PM My point is why do men seem to get so railed up over it?Since women make that decision wrong or right, men seem to scream the loudest? By the way, I would never choose to have one, so Back off and get your own Uterus! Why do the men on this board get riled up about it? Probably because they are generally responsible adults who recognize that men contribute to the making of babies. The responsible thing to do as a man after he has participated in making a baby is to do what he can to ensure the well-being of that baby. When a woman decides to kill that baby, it upsets most responsible men who may want to keep that baby alive. That is, except for Disruptive, sometimes I believe that he wishes he were aborted himself. Apparently he hasn't heard of self-control. Yea, it's not because their church that dictates the terms of the rest of their immortal existance has stated a position on the issue. That's not it at all! Quote
Guest bat Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 Originally posted by Unorthodox@Nov 1 2004, 07:18 PM All life is sacred. Except that one time when God flooded the earth. And the times that he commanded his faithful followers to kill people, innocent people. God loves us. Quote
Spencer Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 Originally posted by john doe+Nov 1 2004, 06:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (john doe @ Nov 1 2004, 06:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Winnie G@Nov 1 2004, 02:52 PM My point is why do men seem to get so railed up over it?Since women make that decision wrong or right, men seem to scream the loudest? By the way, I would never choose to have one, so Back off and get your own Uterus! Why do the men on this board get riled up about it? Probably because they are generally responsible adults who recognize that men contribute to the making of babies. The responsible thing to do as a man after he has participated in making a baby is to do what he can to ensure the well-being of that baby. When a woman decides to kill that baby, it upsets most responsible men who may want to keep that baby alive. That is, except for Disruptive, sometimes I believe that he wishes he were aborted himself. Apparently he hasn't heard of self-control. I concur Doctor. =) Quote
Winnie G Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 The truth is its one more thing man cant control. Quote
Jenda Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 Originally posted by DisRuptive1@Nov 1 2004, 07:18 PM one moment of selfishness?One moment is a whole lot better than a lifetime of selfishness like a woman would have when she chooses to have a child even though the father said he would not help raise the child. If you didn't insist on your one moment of selfishness then there could be no lifetime of selfishness on the woman's part, could there?Ever think of it that way????? Quote
Spencer Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 Originally posted by Winnie G@Nov 2 2004, 10:44 AM The truth is its one more thing man cant control. In this case only if the woman is very inconsiderate of her partners feelings. Quote
StrawberryFields Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 I would not choose abortion. If for some reason I could not raise a child, I would place that child up for adoption. We have a niece who was adopted because the parents could not conceive a child of their own. She brings so much joy into her parents’ lives as well as our own. I believe that there are consequences on both sides for conceiving an unwanted child. For the man who enters into a fling... he might have 18 years of child support. For a woman who does the same, she may have the hardship of giving up a child that she had carried. Many men can't possibly know how that might feel having a life grow within you. The reason why I use the word many in the previous sentence is because we have some men who become really involved with the pregnancy. Anyway, there are potential hardships on both sides. The rules are there in advance. If you don't want to get burned... don't play with fire! Quote
Lindy Posted November 2, 2004 Report Posted November 2, 2004 Originally posted by bat+Nov 2 2004, 12:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bat @ Nov 2 2004, 12:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Spencer@Nov 1 2004, 09:30 AM <!--QuoteBegin--Winnie G@Nov 1 2004, 11:13 AM AH I was there My body my choice. :) A little selfish dont you think? I think a man has every right to his opinion on wether or not his child will be born.your body your choice. bah! Wrong dork boy. If you want to make the decision to carry and deliver a baby, then by all means, do it. Don't think that it's your place EVER to tell another person that they have to do that. It's not your business, nor is it your concern. If you want babies to be born so badly, go get pregnant. Otherwise, shut up. I see your point Bat, I disagree with your point....but I see it nonetheless.Pro live vs choice It will continue to be one of those issues that get hot and heavy because of emotions, beliefs and faith. I know, that a women will have that final choice, no matter what it will be. She will either have the baby and won't kill (abort) it, or she won't blink an eyelash at getting rid of the "inconvience" (abortion), or she will agonize over a decision that will effect her life forever.....keep it or abort it.I think that some men have the right to be selfish with wanting to have an opinion.....then again....some men don't. Quote
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