How Angry Should I be lol

[Elgama]

OK my nemesis who was called as Primary President and who I hand my children over to reluctantly every week and I cannot look upon objectively at all.

Should I be angry and how would you handle:

Ellie who is 5 has come out of primary very distressed TWICE. first time she had been playing with her bangle it was taken off her (clearly not explained it would be handed back), then second time she was placed on the seat next to the teacher for talking. Now Ellie is not an angel but what I am angry about is both times she seems to have been distressed for over 15 minutes and noone came to get me. Have made it clear if she is playing up in future to come and get me and not sit her on a naughty seat (its how the kids perceive it)

Personally i think a naughty seat has no place in primary and my daughter is on her 3rd primary president and about 5th teacher she has never been this upset before.

I tried to attend primary last week but got told off by branch president because I was validating my daughter's behaviout, I am not but I am struggling leaving her with someone I do not trust. The woman is well known in town and my bestfriend when I told him who was called asked was that because Myra Hindley was dead and Rosemary West in prison (serial killers tortured kids)

Should I be angry?

[prospectmom]

YOu should try to resolve the situation in a politically correct and diplomatic way. that being said what is the harm in wearing a bangle and playing with it plenty of adults play with jewlery while listening to the speakers......... and the naughty seat is not for church........... so yes I may be mad but what I would do and what you should do probably are two different things. :}

[Elgama]

i dunno with this sister personally think she should be swum in a lake then burned at the stake why I am asking opinions lol I have no objectiveness with her she is a nasty bully

[NeuroTypical]

I dunno about angry, but I do know this: From the prospective of the hubby of a homeschooling mom, if my wife doesn't agree with the environment our kid is in at church, she will correct the environment or find a new one. It's possible that correcting an environment would include boiling someone in oil, but such decisions can be made without anger.

(I've never seen my wife not make such a decision without anger as part of her equasion, I'm just sayin' is all...)

From the perspective of someone who has taught before, it isn't the teacher's job to fix students, or make them behave in certain ways, or raise them. It's the teacher's job to teach. I don't really care if a kid's mommy is an overprotective sheltering bear, or an overly permissive apathetic uncaring blob, or anything in between. I'll do what it takes to maintain a learning environment. If a parent doesn't want their kid in a time out seat, go get the parent and let them deal with the kid. No skin off my nose. It's not my job to click my tongue and opine about parenting techniques.

LM

Edited July 30, 2009 by Loudmouth_Mormon

[Danite]

Is there another branch or ward close by that you could attend ,I don't remeber the naughty chair in the hand book. As a preisthod leader I can understand the branch president supporting the new primary president too. However your wishes concerning your children need to followed . You may have to speak to your stake or district president to resolve this one.

[Elgama]

No nearest ward is 70 miles away and our branch is really special its just we also have the wicked witch of the North lol without her it would be perfect. Thank you everyone I know I need to speak to branch president this time without Primary President present so I can be open. and if necessary my daughter can always stay home with my Mum or best friend both of whom don't want Ellie or Gabe going to primary right now

Loudmouth you are right - I have chosen to home educate so my daughter never needs to experience situations like this as a child. So I am going to be an overprotective Marmee, for me timeout or sitting with teacher is just inappropriate for primary and not necessary with Ellie she is very chatty which can be annoying but she is also naturally very 'good' and will be quiet if asked politely, her previous teachers (checked with 2 of them) said she responded fine to being told to be quiet and speak in a bit

-Charley

[Jbs2763]

i don't have my english to english dictionary handy...whats a bangle?

[Elgama]

i don't have my english to english dictionary handy...whats a bangle?

bracelet

[Jbs2763]

learn somthing new every day...next you are gonna tell me y'all brits have discraced the fine sport of football with something other than the game greats like Johnny U, Joe Montana, Steve Young and Peyton Manning play

[FairChild]

Be as mad as you want to be. You have the power to control your feelings. Primary is a great tool that can be used in helping us to teach our children the gospel as well as learn how to socialize. Your first responsibilty is for your child's health and safety. You are a good mom. Don't forget that.

[skippy740]

OK my nemesis who was called as Primary President and who I hand my children over to reluctantly every week and I cannot look upon objectively at all.

Should I be angry and how would you handle:

Ellie who is 5 has come out of primary very distressed TWICE. first time she had been playing with her bangle it was taken off her (clearly not explained it would be handed back), then second time she was placed on the seat next to the teacher for talking. Now Ellie is not an angel but what I am angry about is both times she seems to have been distressed for over 15 minutes and noone came to get me. Have made it clear if she is playing up in future to come and get me and not sit her on a naughty seat (its how the kids perceive it)

Personally i think a naughty seat has no place in primary and my daughter is on her 3rd primary president and about 5th teacher she has never been this upset before.

I tried to attend primary last week but got told off by branch president because I was validating my daughter's behaviout, I am not but I am struggling leaving her with someone I do not trust. The woman is well known in town and my bestfriend when I told him who was called asked was that because Myra Hindley was dead and Rosemary West in prison (serial killers tortured kids)

Should I be angry?

I (obviously) don't know this sister, but your first issue is with the branch president. You have every right to be in class with your children because your #1 calling in this life and the next is to be a parent. Never let a church leader tell you otherwise.

The second thing is this: We can only do the best we can with what we know. I know I'd have a really hard time accepting a calling to serve in the primary... probably because I WOULD use a "naughty" chair. (Hey, those episodes of "Super Nanny" come in handy sometimes!) I have a short temper and if I'm not raising the kids myself, they can be a real handful. I've heard other kids yell at their parents DURING Sacrament meeting saying they don't like their mommy and other things. Sometimes kids think their normal "school" behavior is acceptable at church.

One solution could be is that you can volunteer to teach the class? Even on a substitute basis, or in a team with the other teacher?

I remember being in a mutual Sunday School class and we went through 3 different teachers in the same year... until my mother decided to teach. She was our teacher for the rest of the year - and the other kids really liked it.

[Elgama]

The second thing is this: We can only do the best we can with what we know. I know I'd have a really hard time accepting a calling to serve in the primary... probably because I WOULD use a "naughty" chair. (Hey, those episodes of "Super Nanny" come in handy sometimes!) I have a short temper and if I'm not raising the kids myself, they can be a real handful. I've heard other kids yell at their parents DURING Sacrament meeting saying they don't like their mommy and other things. Sometimes kids think their normal "school" behavior is acceptable at church.

My big issue is more with a 5 year old crying in primary twice for at least 15 minutes I think that is too long for me not to have been called, she was so distressed last time I thought she was coming down with something as she had a seriously raised temperature. I also do feel that without parental permission a naughty chair in primary is inappropriate especially when the class is chatty but mostly well behaved - humiliation for me has no place in primary

One solution could be is that you can volunteer to teach the class? Even on a substitute basis, or in a team with the other teacher?

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I currently have 3 callings one of which conflicts some weeks or I would love the class.

-Charley

Edited July 31, 2009 by Elgama