What "blessings" Come From Tithing

[Guest bizabra]

I know I've asked this before, but I would still like some specific examples of the blessings that you all feel you get from tithing that others who do not tithe don't or won't get.

Please be as specific as you can, and explain why you think that these blessings stem directly from paying tithing.

I still don't understand what tithing payers "get" in return that other normal humans who don't give any $ to a religious organization don't get.

Thanks

[pushka]

Originally posted by bizabra@Oct 28 2005, 07:41 AM

I know I've asked this before, but I would still like some specific examples of the blessings that you all feel you get from tithing that others who do not tithe don't or won't get.

Please be as specific as you can, and explain why you think that these blessings stem directly from paying tithing. 

I still don't understand what tithing payers "get" in return that other normal humans who don't give any $ to a religious organization don't get.

Thanks

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Could it be that God charges an admin fee for all those Ministering Angels' expenses accounts? lol

[StrawberryFields]

Originally posted by bizabra@Oct 28 2005, 08:41 AM

I know I've asked this before, but I would still like some specific examples of the blessings that you all feel you get from tithing that others who do not tithe don't or won't get.

Please be as specific as you can, and explain why you think that these blessings stem directly from paying tithing. 

I still don't understand what tithing payers "get" in return that other normal humans who don't give any $ to a religious organization don't get.

Thanks

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NOPE, Not me with a ten foot pole.

I have a testimony of tithing but why would any of us that do post a sincere answer to this when you will simply tear it apart?

[StrawberryFields]

Originally posted by pushka+Oct 28 2005, 08:56 AM-->

<!--QuoteBegin-bizabra@Oct 28 2005, 07:41 AM

I know I've asked this before, but I would still like some specific examples of the blessings that you all feel you get from tithing that others who do not tithe don't or won't get.

Please be as specific as you can, and explain why you think that these blessings stem directly from paying tithing. 

I still don't understand what tithing payers "get" in return that other normal humans who don't give any $ to a religious organization don't get.

Thanks

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Could it be that God charges an admin fee for all those Ministering Angels' expenses accounts? lol

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Cute Pushka. B)

[pushka]

You know I was only teasing dont ya? :)

[StrawberryFields]

Originally posted by pushka@Oct 28 2005, 09:12 AM

You know I was only teasing dont ya? :)

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Of Course! :)

[Serg]

People who pay tithe according to the faith they do it with and the obidience dont only get spiritual blessings but economic blessings, for the "tithe and the offeringd" are for us to give the Lord and somehow HAVE in return. Also the day of sabbath(sunday) as a promise it states that gives us "the fulness of the earth", meaning also economic blessings. For those who dont believe it, more than testimonies I'll say that D&C says that ALL the blessings are based on SOME commandment, and the only ones that speak of prosperity are those i just mentioned. Also under the covenant of Abraham we inherit his blessings that include economic means...

[dizzysmiles]

I am a mother of two and when i first had my first child my husband wasn't making a lot of money, but i knew that i wanted to make sure i raised my child and not someone else, i used to work in a daycare and i saw very sad things, and no they arent all bad but i still wanted to be that stay at home mom like the prophet wanted us to, ssatan attacks families and that is a start. im not saying anything is wrong with working mom's that would be a hard job expessially single mothers. ANyways i remember ethir payin g rent or tithing, we paid tithing and I said ok lord i know that something is going to happen before friday. I dont think this always happens to people but i went to get the mail and there was as 100 dollar check from our college, and then his rich sister called and asked if he could come fix some applainces and she would pay him. Things work out differently and it is for the person , there were many times when my husband was looking for a better job and i know for a fact by giving the Lord HIS money back that we would get in return a blessing, wheterh we relized it or not. We dont always count the blessings in life, my blessings are my family, the clothes we have the food we have and the home we live in, many people in the hurricane all they were grateful for was their families were alive! WE dont own anything here it is all GOd's why can't we pay him a little bit, its not the money he wants it is the faithful servant.

[shanstress70]

Originally posted by dizzysmiles@Oct 28 2005, 12:59 PM

I am a mother of two and when i first had my first child my husband wasn't making a lot of money, but i knew that i wanted to make sure  i raised my child and not someone else, i used to work in a daycare and i saw very sad things, and no they arent all bad but i still wanted to be that stay at home mom like the prophet wanted us to, ssatan attacks families and that is a start. im not saying anything is wrong with working mom's that would be a hard job expessially single mothers.  ANyways i remember ethir payin g rent or tithing, we paid tithing and I said ok lord i know that something is going to happen before friday. I dont think this always happens to people but i went to get the mail and there was as 100 dollar check from our college, and then his rich sister called and asked if he could come fix some applainces and she would pay him.  Things work out differently and it is for the person , there were many times when my husband was looking for a better job and i know for a fact by giving the Lord HIS money back that we would get in return a blessing, wheterh we relized it or not.  We dont always count the blessings in life, my blessings are my family, the clothes we have the food we have and the home we live in, many people in the hurricane all they were grateful for was their families were alive!  WE dont own anything here it is all GOd's why can't we pay him a little bit, its not the money he wants it is the faithful servant.

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Two things:

1 - I don't pay tithing to a particular church (although I do give money to various charities), and there are many time when I feel that things have gone our way as far as money is concerned. Everyone has good thing that happen to them. It's just that when it happens to an LDS person, it's because they paid tithing, but when it happens to someone like me, it's just because life is good! What I'm saying is that good things happen to non-LDS too, and my guess would be that they happen just as frequently. You should choose to give money to an organization (or church) because you want to help - not because you want some promised blessings in return.

2 - I AM a working mom. My husband was a stay at home dad until my child was close to 3, because I had a steady job and he lost his in the great time of lay-offs post-9/11. I'm glad he was able to be at home when he was an infant, but I think it's beneficial for children to be in a preschool setting when they pass the toddler age. He is now in a very quality preschool that we all love! I think that this situation is great for him, and even if I did choose to stay home, I would still want to put him in a preschool when he was 3 or 4 so that he could learn to interact with kids and learn things in creative and fun ways (I'm not the most creative person!). I feel that children who don't have this experience have a more difficult time when they start Kindergarten. I totally trust the people who take care of him. I can watch him at any time I want on a camera from my desk at work. I know he is happy as can be all day! I am lucky in that I can go into work early so that I can get off early and spend the biggest part of the afternoon with him. But there are people who can't do that, and they are no less of a mother than someone who stays home with their children.

Today is his birthday. I wanted to keep him out, but he really wanted to go to school today because they are wearing their Halloween costumes, having a parade, and going trick-or-treat to all the classrooms. I am leaving right now to go and join them!

[Serg]

Shantress:

We believe not so.

We believe that "tithing" is part of a COVENANT, of the option to follow Christ , and therefore you have no obligation nor a promaise of the Lord. BUT!!!!!! That doesnt mean that the Lord doesnt see good your faith or intentions!!! When some that were NOT following Jesus began making miracles in His name, the Apostles came to Jesus and said : We told them not to for they were not with us! And Jesus said: Let him, for he who is not against us is with us....and later said : for nobody who recieves a miracle in my name(although not of my church) CANT say anithing bad against me!

So we believe that God is a God of LOVE that goes BEYOND church concepts, and ACCEPTS your FAITH and awards you according to the knowleadge YOU have that moment. We just believe you ought to recieve His Will and become His follower UNDER ZION's Work in this earth.....but those are only twenty other bucks!

Take care,

[Ray]

Bizabra,

You might be able to understand tithing by making some correlations.

For instance, I consider the Church to be a part of the kingdom of God, I consider the kingdom of God to be as real as any other kingdom, and I consider tithing as taxes in this kingdom, from which I get blessings or benefits just as I get blessings or benefits from the United States of America, although I get blessings or benefits from the Church that I can get nowhere else.

In other words, tithing funds are specifically allocated to all the costs associated with building the kingdom of God on Earth, such as the costs of building buildings, utilities in those buildings, insurance, property tax, furniture, furnishings, supplies such as pictures, books, paper, computers, audio/video equipment, software, and all the other costs associated with what we use to build and maintain the buildings associated with the kingdom of God on Earth.

And just in case you're curious, we have other funds to provide for other expenses, such as our Fast Offering fund, Humanitarian Aid fund, General Missionary fund, Ward Missionary fund, and Perpetual Education fund.

[dizzysmiles]

Shan, I wasn't saying that those who aren't lds don't get blessings, That is so false. I dont pay my tithing to REcieve blessings ethir, i do it cause I know its a commandment from the Lord. In return our blessings bloom. Every person is god's children and as long as they are doing what is right, they and this country will be blessed. AS for the stay at home mom that is my personal choice, i dunno what i would've done without my mom staying home. I loved teaching at daycare and i loved those children, i just think it was sad when they told their moms they wanted to go "home" meaning the daycare and see their teacher. But those that have to work then they have to and I hope things are ok, i know not everyone has that oppurtinity and i hope that they have good providers, and are doing ok becasue that would be way hard i take my hat off to them, and if they do have the oppurtinity but dont do it casue its "boring " sometimes and don't take it one day i think they will wake up when their kids are gone and see what was more important in their lives.

[DisRuptive1]

If you think about it, tithing can be like gambling. The only way to make more money than you have is to put some of your money in that circle.

So if we put out money in a tithing envelope and give it to the bishop (put it in the betting circle) Heavenly Father will reward us (the house pays 2 to 1) :)

[dizzysmiles]

oh dis you got it all wrong.

[Guest Member_Deleted]

Originally posted by DisRuptive1@Oct 29 2005, 11:27 AM

If you think about it, tithing can be like gambling.  The only way to make more money than you have is to put some of your money in that circle.

So if we put out money in a tithing envelope and give it to the bishop (put it in the betting circle) Heavenly Father will reward us (the house pays 2 to 1) :)

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Actually tithing opens the windows of heaven... for spiritual blessings... like the doctrins of the priesthood decending like dews from heaven...

confidence in the Lord... in prayer... in testimony... in the Holy Ghost... blessings only come after sacrifice...

[Guest bizabra]

Originally posted by Ray@Oct 28 2005, 12:08 PM

Bizabra,

You might be able to understand tithing by making some correlations.

For instance, I consider the Church to be a part of the kingdom of God, I consider the kingdom of God to be as real as any other kingdom, and I consider tithing as taxes in this kingdom, from which I get blessings or benefits just as I get blessings or benefits from the United States of America, although I get blessings or benefits from the Church that I can get nowhere else.

In other words, tithing funds are specifically allocated to all the costs associated with building the kingdom of God on Earth, such as the costs of building buildings, utilities in those buildings, insurance, property tax, furniture, furnishings, supplies such as pictures, books, paper, computers, audio/video equipment, software, and all the other costs associated with what we use to build and maintain the buildings associated with the kingdom of God on Earth.

And just in case you're curious, we have other funds to provide for other expenses, such as our Fast Offering fund, Humanitarian Aid fund, General Missionary fund, Ward Missionary fund, and Perpetual Education fund.

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BIZ: Ray, I understand what tithing $ pays for. What I am curious about is the claim that paying tithing = receipt of "blessings". I was asking for specific instances of blessings that folks who pay their tithing receive that folks who don't pay tithing don't receive. Or, are you suggesting that church buildings and office supplies and/or humanitarian aid to be the "blessings" you receive?

So far, only dizzy has offered examples of what she believes were blessings received from paying tithing. Though she did go on in her next post to recant that the "blessing" was an actual result of paying her tithing.

Mormons are so quick to claim that paying your tithing reaps benefits in the form of blessings. What exactly ARE the specific blessings you all believe are received by members that non=members don't receive?

If blessings are claimed, why is it so hard to enumerate these blessings?

How do you reconcile the fact that good things happen serendipitously to non-tithe payers and tithers both?

[Snow]

Originally posted by bizabra@Oct 28 2005, 06:41 AM

I know I've asked this before, but I would still like some specific examples of the blessings that you all feel you get from tithing that others who do not tithe don't or won't get.

Please be as specific as you can, and explain why you think that these blessings stem directly from paying tithing. 

I still don't understand what tithing payers "get" in return that other normal humans who don't give any $ to a religious organization don't get.

Thanks

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Well - those that tithe will not be burned at His (Christ's) coming... so we've got that going for us.

In the old missionary discussions we were supposed to read the scripture that said he who tithes won't be burned at His coming and then we supposed to ask "Mr and Mrs Gerkshlakan, would you like this blessing for you and your family?" (Would you like to not become smouldering hunks of charred flesh - both for you and lovely family?)

[StrawberryFields]

Originally posted by Snow+Oct 30 2005, 12:27 PM-->

<!--QuoteBegin-bizabra@Oct 28 2005, 06:41 AM

I know I've asked this before, but I would still like some specific examples of the blessings that you all feel you get from tithing that others who do not tithe don't or won't get.

Please be as specific as you can, and explain why you think that these blessings stem directly from paying tithing. 

I still don't understand what tithing payers "get" in return that other normal humans who don't give any $ to a religious organization don't get.

Thanks

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Well - those that tithe will not be burned at His (Christ's) coming... so we've got that going for us.

In the old missionary discussions we were supposed to read the scripture that said he who tithes won't be burned at His coming and then we supposed to ask "Mr and Mrs Gerkshlakan, would you like this blessing for you and your family?" (Would you like to not become smouldering hunks of charred flesh - both for you and lovely family?)

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Snow,

Do you now feel that you were wrong to ask that question?

[dizzysmiles]

Biz, Faith without works is dead, Tithing is a big leap of faith. 10 % isnt much but yet it makes people so hard to pay. Ive been in financial harships and I Know without a doubt but i know my stories wont and shouldn't convert you to my own spiritual blessings, but i do know that becasue i did pay my tithing that instance that was a blessing. Im also blessed for faith in my savior and DOING something about it like service, the blessings from that are love for others, love for oneself and joy in life. If everything we own is God's then why should it be hard to give it back? You shouldn't expect blessings from it , but they do come becasue God loves all his children but will return love from those who are faithful. AS long as there are faithful people on this earth, they shall be blessed and so will their families. although sometimes we get caught up in the mess of the world. If you look in the scriptures good people do get caught up in it from the wicked Abinidi burns at the stake, Christ is crucified, John gets his head chopped off, Joseph is murdered, but their rewards will be reaped in heaven. Im not saying those who arent going to be lds dont recieve blessings, WE are ALL gods children but i know for me those things were a personal revelation that it was becasue of my faithfulness in my tithing, Mabey people dont want to share you their personal blessings b ecasue when you do they rip it apart and its only meant for the person. If you want to find out why dont you have faith and keep paying it without expectations of a blessing and youll see what happens in your life. ANother experiecne with paying fast offerings, is that you help peopl in need, and there comes the love of knowing you have helped someone during a hard time and you become more christlike and want to give more.. I hope you do anyways .

[Serg]

Just to say, and let not be it so harsh....the "us being NOT burnt" at His coming is NOT JUST because of paying tithings, is because of BEING OBIDIENT. Tithing is a material expression of obidience, one mostly difficult for our carnal aspect, and the reason of the scripture saying that is, that for he who can be THAT obidient to do so, it would in logic, be ALSO obidient in most things, action that would ASSURE you of NOT being burnt, so again, it is faithfulness what saves a man, and diligence that shows such conviction, and thats it....

Best ragards,

[shanstress70]

But what about giving money to charities that help people in need? In my non-LDS opinion, I believe that blessings will be greater to those who give to humanitarian aid (10% of what we make, or maybe 20%, or whatever we feel like in our hearts), rather than to a church fund who give only a portion (not sure how much becuase the numbers aren't available) to humanitarian aid, and uses the rest for the building of temples, and the like. IMO, God would rather us spend money on the poor, etc. than to honor Him with large, expensive buildings... but that's just me!

[Ray]

I’ll put it this way. The best blessings our Lord has to give to us from this Earth come from people who pay their tithes and other offerings to the Lord, and our Lord only gives those blessings to the people who pay their tithes and offerings to the Lord.

For instance, without tithing there would be no temples of the Lord on this Earth, and thus there would be no way to receive the blessings that come from having temples, which our Lord only gives to those people who pay their tithes and other offerings to the Lord.

And btw, I give my tithes and other offerings to the Lord to help Him or support Him in His work, rather than supporting the work of mere men, because I know the Lord and His authorized servants are better qualified to know how best to help everyone on this Earth.

Or in other words, while any man can form an organization with the goal of helping other people, our Lord knows best about how to do that, and He reveals His will to His servants, the prophets.

[dizzysmiles]

If you have a chance to look, we have helped a ton of people in need! I was listeing to Sean Hennedy and a baptist was on supporting huricane katrina that it wasn't becasue race and money that people didnt recieve help fast enough. she said "Go to Utah, you will see white mormons opeing their arms up to these black baptist. "doesnt matter what race,. relgion or ext what we are all that matters is we help and obey gods comandments. BTW why do you want to know what our blessings are from tithing? What have been your blessings in life?

[pushka]

I tend to agree with Shanstress that any God worth his weight in salt, would be more concerned with the needs of his people than with having a temple/s built in his name...

[Guest Member_Deleted]

Originally posted by pushka@Oct 31 2005, 05:36 PM

I tend to agree with Shanstress that any God worth his weight in salt, would be more concerned with the needs of his people than with having a temple/s built in his name...

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Which is more important to God.... our physical well being for time... or our spiritual welfare for all eternity?