Isaiah 43:10: says something that goes against the Mormon belief.

[Hemidakota]

On his part or mine? If you're asking, 'Would Christ have asked questions specifically designed to trip up the Pharisees', then the answer is 'Yes'. If he would have highfived the person next to him afterwards, the answer is probably 'No'.

It doesn't matter...what matters more than anything, is what the Savior thinks.

[Blackmarch]

Isaiah 43:10:_"Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after."

Also these___

Isaiah 44:6:_"I am the first and I am the last apart from me there is no God.”

Isaiah 46:9:_"I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me."

Isaiah 43:10:_"Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me."

Isaiah 45:21-22:_"...there is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none but me. Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other."

Now what do those mean? Mormons believe they can become gods right? These verses from the Bible say that won't happen though.

Those verses aren't about man's exaltation- it's about our relationship to God, which won't ever change.

[mnn727]

Why would God say the things He said? God has never lied and He never will.

Do you think God wrote the Bible?

Do you think God protects the Bible from error?

Do you think the English versions of the Bible have the exact same meanings as the originals?

All 3 are incorrect

Edited July 1, 2010 by mnn727

[Hemidakota]

Or is the bible complete? I cannot fathom a GOD who stops talking to HIS children.

[FunkyTown]

I think you should keep a count going anyway, just because it amuses me.

I wonder if I should tally my conquests, too. We could have a little competition.

Hahah. No fair! I'm in England, which means that at the time when most Southern USA logs in, I'm in bed. If you cut out the Southern US from people who log in here to do what this guy just did, that gives me like 10% of the chance.

[the Ogre]

Cherry picking scripture is easy and lazy. If you want to know what we believe and that not only do we understand Isaiah, we love him and understand him, actually read what we say we believe and not some bit of trash you picked up on a site that hates mormons.

The next thing is look carefully at what it means to be a Latter-day Saint. Being a Latter-day Saint does not mean what you've implied here: it means to Listen to a Prophet's voice--a modern prophet's voice (and obeying said prophet's voice). We do. Every LDS prophet has said salvation comes only through the word and atonement of J-sus Chr-st our M-ssiah. Every knee will bow and every tongue confess: G-d is our F-ather and Creator of all and H-s S-n is the S-vior of mankind through the H-s sacrifice and death.

Isaiah was addressing the issues of his time in every section you've mentioned (I think these all come from his discourses before the gates of Jerusalem discussing the paganism rampant in Judah at that time--I do not think he had us in mind). President Monson addresses the issues of our time which seem to be anger, pornography, duty, and fulfilling potential (he mentions tons more, this is a brief list).

(Calgon take me away)

Edited July 1, 2010 by the Ogre

[the Ogre]

Hahah. And it only took 2 pages to get what you really wanted to say out. You didn't want to argue at all.

Anti-Mormons exposed by Funkytown: 3.

I may just keep a running total in my signature once I hit 5.

Stud.

[rameumptom]

Isaiah 43:10:_"Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after."

Also these___

Isaiah 44:6:_"I am the first and I am the last apart from me there is no God.”

Isaiah 46:9:_"I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me."

Isaiah 43:10:_"Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me."

Isaiah 45:21-22:_"...there is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none but me. Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other."

Now what do those mean? Mormons believe they can become gods right? These verses from the Bible say that won't happen though.

The problem isn't in the quotes, but how most Christians interpret them. The ancient Hebrew belief was that there was a chief God, El Elyon/Elohim, who had many divine sons. They were in a divine council together. Elohim divided the nations among these sons, Jehovah receiving the prime nation: Israel.

Among the Canaanites, there were struggles among their gods for dominance. One of their initial gods was Yam, who was replaced by Baal. When Isaiah states there is no God before Jehovah and would not be one after him, he is referencing this Canaanite event.

There are many Bible scholars who have written concerning the gods, including Margaret Barker, who is a Methodist preacher (margaretbarker.com).

We see signs of the divine council throughout the Bible, including Isaiah 6, Job 1 (where some of the other divine sons of El challenge Jehovah), and in Jesus proclaiming, "ye are gods."

In Revelation, we read that through Christ we are "kings and priests unto God and his Father", and that we can sit upon His throne and rule the nations with him. Paul wrote that we are heirs of God and coheirs with Christ - if Christ is God and we are co-heirs, then we also can obtain the divine calling. Paul also told us that Christ did not think it robbery to be equal with God, and we should think the same.

The problem with how many Christians read the Bible today, is they read it from a modern view, rather than from how the ancients actually understood it. When we study it in-depth, we find that ancient Hebrews were into monolatry, and so are Mormons today.

[rameumptom]

Now, was that Christ like behavior? Something we need to stop and think about...

I agree with Hemi. Just because we sense someone is probably an Anti-Mormon mole does not mean we should not treat them with kindness, respect, and even a little charity. If you are tired of answering such people, then don't answer them. Let others deal with the situation.

If we ever wish to convert someone, we must do it with love and kindness, not a smug personal satisfaction that we've beat up on them.

This was a teaching opportunity. And it is now lost. Others viewed this topic who may have needed to know the answers. Instead, they saw Mormons mocking and speaking down to others. We need to be better than that.

And just because Christ spoke harshly to the Pharisees, whom he knew, does not give us permission to speak harshly to someone we do not know. "I the Lord will forgive whom I shall forgive, but of you it is required to forgive all men." We have a standard, and that is to treat others with Christ-like love. "Love one another." "Love thy neighbor." We have been taught to not contend, because contention is of the devil.

The next time an anti-Mormon comes here, let's hope we attempt to win him/her over with true Christian love and charity. I hope Christ deals better with us than we dealt with this person here.

[Dravin]

The OP is no longer with us and the question has been discussed before without all the hullabaloo that surrounds the OP's sentiments (and the replies) so I'm closing it.