LDS org website. ... new look.

[Mahonri]

I like the new look and the login is easy.

Search still is worthless.

Our Ward and Stake will never get connected with calendars and the memberships will always be behind or inadequate.

I like the scriptures better and the personal study notebook.

What do you all think?

[MarginOfError]

You're a bit late to the game:

http://www.lds.net/forums/general-discussion/35958-new-lds-org-whaddya-think.html

[Wingnut]

I think there was another thread on the same thing started a few days after that one, too.

[NeuroTypical]

Yeah, well no matter how often we've discussed it, the search still stinketh to high heaven. One wonders if those webby folks in church HQ did it wrong on purpose in order to keep people from finding things too easily. I figure if our church ever develops something like the pharisees and saducees, they'll originate in the church office building and keep their borg queen there.

No logical operators. No use of quotes. Not even any + or - recognition from what I can tell. Google it ain't. Heck, 1995 LDS Collectors Edition it ain't.

Shame, shame, shame on whoever signed off on the search functionality.

LM

(Kudos on the social-media aspects, though.)

[Wingnut]

Well, if you want to give feedback, here you go: https://lds.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_9tcf8YPa5iDHy8Q&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ldsHomeFeatures+%28ldsHomeFeatures%29&utm_content=Google+Reader#4189276064-12817067673534171397-eng

There was a question about the search function, but since I haven't yet used it on the new version, I didn't get any follow-up questions about it.

[rameumptom]

Search still is awful. And it is perhaps one of the things I would use most often in researching Conference talks and Ensign articles. You can even use the "advanced" search and it doesn't work. Look for only one apostle or prophet, and it will still bring up lots of others, etc.

I would also like it better if you could copy and paste from the online scriptures without having all the mark-up language being copied along with it.

Example:

1In the abeginning bGod ccreated the dheaven and the eearth. UAdd a Note 2And the earth was without aform, and void; and bdarkness was upon the face of the deep. And the cSpirit of God dmoved upon the face of the waters. UAdd a Note

3And God asaid, Let there be blight: and there was light.

The "UAdd a Note" is really annoying, and should not display when copy/pasting.

[NeuroTypical]

Well, if you want to give feedback, here you go: https://lds.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_9tcf8YPa5iDHy8Q&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ldsHomeFeatures+%28ldsHomeFeatures%29&utm_content=Google+Reader#4189276064-12817067673534171397-eng

Thanks much. Feedback all given. We'll see if it does any good.

[MarginOfError]

Search still is awful. And it is perhaps one of the things I would use most often in researching Conference talks and Ensign articles. You can even use the "advanced" search and it doesn't work. Look for only one apostle or prophet, and it will still bring up lots of others, etc.

I would also like it better if you could copy and paste from the online scriptures without having all the mark-up language being copied along with it.

Example:

The "UAdd a Note" is really annoying, and should not display when copy/pasting.

You mean like this

3And it came to pass that the people began to wax strong in wickedness and abominations; and they did not believe that there should be any more signs or wonders given; and Satan did go about, leading away the hearts of the people, tempting them and causing them that they should do great wickedness in the land.

If you look at the right side of the screen at the top of a chapter, there's a link for "Hide Footnotes." That will suppress all the markup until you click on "show footnotes."

Also, if you hover of "My Study Notebook" and then click on the "Hide Tools" link, it will suppress the Add-a-Note feature. So it can do what you want it to do. You just need to turn the features off first.

[MarginOfError]

As for search terms, one of the underlying concepts of the redesign was search engine optimization. They wanted searches from Google, Bing, and Yahoo to pick up more content from official church sites than from anywhere else. So while the search functionality on lds.org might stink, you may have more luck using Google to search for stuff on lds.org.

Try starting your search with sites:lds.org

As an example, when I search for the talk "The Power of Righteousness" from lds.org, I can't find it anywhere.

But if I go to Google and type "sites:lds.org 'The Power of Righteousness'", the very first item on the list is "The Power of Righteousness"

Edited December 20, 2010 by MarginOfError

[mnn727]

I HATE it. Can't find anything, hate the new scripture layout, it doesn't work for what I use it for.

The search used to work fine (at least in the Gospel Library which is what I used it for), now it doesn't work at all.

[pam]

I HATE it. Can't find anything, hate the new scripture layout, it doesn't work for what I use it for.

The search used to work fine (at least in the Gospel Library which is what I used it for), now it doesn't work at all.

It doesn't work for what I use it for either. I liked it before in that I could put in a specific scripture and only have it show up and be able to link to just that scripture. Not the entire chapter.

[MarginOfError]

It doesn't work for what I use it for either. I liked it before in that I could put in a specific scripture and only have it show up and be able to link to just that scripture. Not the entire chapter.

I think you still can, actually. The link structure is very systematic. For example, let's look at 1 Nephi 3:7

lds.org/scriptures/bofm/1-ne/3.7?lang=eng#7 (link)

• lds.org/scriptures - tells me I'm looking in the scriptures
• /bofm - tells me the Book of Mormon
• /1-ne - designates first Nephi
• /3.7 - gives the chapter.verse that are to be highlighted
• ?lang=eng - gives the language to be looked up
• #7 - designates what verse should appear at the top of the page.

So, I promise, I'm not looking up this link right now--I'm typing it from memory:

Mormon 9:14 will be

lds.org/scriptures/bofm/morm/9.14?lang=eng#14 (link)

Or, if I want to show more context, I can start at verse 12

lds.org/scriptures/bofm/morm/9.14?lang=eng#12 (link)

Or, if I want to highlight more than one verse

lds.org/scriptures/bofm/morm/9.12-14?lang=eng#12 (link)

I understand it's a little inconvenient, but if you get to the chapter, all you need to do to generate a link to the verse is know what verses you want to highlight and where you want to start the page.

You might get better features if you give feedback suggesting a "link to highlighted text" button somewhere...sort of like how Google Maps will create a URL for any map you happen to be working on.

Edited December 21, 2010 by MarginOfError

[pam]

What? You want me to do work? Why when it was so easy before? :)

Oh and p.s. I've already sent my own feedback.

[MarginOfError]

I'm not sure it's any more inconvenient than before. In the old system, you had to find the verse, press Alt + Right click, go to your marked scriptures, find it again, and copy the link.

In the new system, you only need to find the chapter and adjust the URL. The problem is knowing how to adjust the URL correctly...which your typical user won't know how to do.

So I agree...a feature for automatic URL generation would be exceptionally useful to the common user. But at least there's something you can do in the mean time, right?

[pam]

In the old system, I already knew what verse I was looking for. All I had to put in the search was Jacob 4:7 and that's the only verse it brought up. I then just had to copy and paste.

[MarginOfError]

How is it that you knew a better way to do it than I did!? I'm supposed to know everything!

[pam]

How is it that you knew a better way to do it than I did!? I'm supposed to know everything!

Because I do it almost every single day with my Book of Mormon quotes and discussions on the site. I have lots of experience. :)

[mapman]

In the old system, I already knew what verse I was looking for. All I had to put in the search was Jacob 4:7 and that's the only verse it brought up. I then just had to copy and paste.

When I searched for Jacob 4:7 on the home page it went directly here: Jacob 4 

Isn't that what it used to do too?

[pam]

When I searched for Jacob 4:7 on the home page it went directly here: Jacob 4Â*

Isn't that what it used to do too?

No..it used to bring up ONLY that scripture. Not the entire chapter. I just noticed on my Book of Mormon forum that all the links I used previous to the change no longer work.

Edited December 21, 2010 by pam

[mnn727]

I'm not sure it's any more inconvenient than before. In the old system, you had to find the verse, press Alt + Right click, go to your marked scriptures, find it again, and copy the link.

Why would I want to mark scriptures online? I don't study scriptures online and I don't remember the book and chapter, I'm lucky to remember which of the standard works it's in. I remember a few keywords in a verse or a quote from someone that I remembered hearing that I used to be able to put into the search box and poof -- it USED TO come up. Now it doesn't!