Succession Crisis

[CommanderSouth]

Where would be a good place to read about it? I hope there are sources out there that are both faith promoting yet not completely neutered of controversy, but that might be asking to have my cake and eat it too :)

[john doe]

Usually success is a good thing, not a crisis. I don't have a problem with being successful in what I try to accomplish.

[Javajot]

Usually success is a good thing, not a crisis. I don't have a problem with being successful in what I try to accomplish.

Perhaps the OP was referring to the succession crisis in regards to the church leadership following the martyrdom of Joseph Smith.

Or is my sarcasm detector not working?

[CommanderSouth]

that would be correct the secession dispute following the death of joseph smith is what I was referring to. and I am wondering if my sarcasm detector is broken as well

[john doe]

The OP was pretty unclear. If you had stated you were talking about that particular time, it would have helped if you had mentioned it. Not all of us are mind-readers, even though we play them on the internet.

[NeuroTypical]

I had two interesting things happen a few years back.

First, I inherited an old book from my grandpa, published by the church in the early 20'th century, about the claims of Joseph Smith III. It presented the RLDS claims on leadership, and refuted them point by point.

Second, I ran into someone from the RLDS church who tried to convince me that us Brighamites were in the wrong. I dug out my book, and was surprised to find this guy presenting the exact same points refuted by my book, in pretty much the order they were presented. I have never before done so well in a discussion about something I knew so little about. I guess those guys were still going off century-old justifications, long after they were soundly refuted.

We have a member or two of the CoC on this site - not sure if they're active posters right now. They're nice people.

[CommanderSouth]

And if I was unclear originally I appologize, as a lot of times I figure terms that are clear to me are also clear to others, and that isn't always the case : )

Also, Loudmouth_Mormon, do you know the name of that book?

And I don't know if I would be more interested in JIIIs Claims, as I would Rigdon, though I would definitely be interested as IIIs claim would seem potentially legit...

[CommanderSouth]

I have been doing a little research on my own and honestly the claim made by the Strangites that 2 Nephi speaks of "Come Come Ye Saints" when it says they will say "All is Well in Zion" is a little spooky. Not that I agree with it, but it still gives me pause.

Anyone have any good sources on this topic they want to add? Just wanted to bump it to see if anyone else had any ideas that may not have seen it before.

Thanks!

[FunkyTown]

The OP was pretty unclear. If you had stated you were talking about that particular time, it would have helped if you had mentioned it. Not all of us are mind-readers, even though we play them on the internet.

I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.

[Guest saintish]

I knew what he was talking about but then again I have always been interested in church succession, haven't found the time to do much reading on it though.

Have you looked into the History of the Church volumes much?

[john doe]

I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.

And you do a mighty fine job of it too.

[NeuroTypical]

Also, Loudmouth_Mormon, do you know the name of that book?

Sorry I didn't reply sooner. I don't remember the name, but I'm thinking you might have difficulty locating a copy due to it's rarity. The title was something like "The succession of Joseph Smith III"

If you google that phrase, you come up with a lot of hits. Not sure if any of them are worthwhile.

[CommanderSouth]

I just found this digging through my posts, and reading the Wiki article on Joseph Fielding Smith, could this be the book in question LM?

Origin of the Reorganized Church and the question of succession : Smith, Joseph Fielding, 1876-1972 : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

[NeuroTypical]

Howdy,

Interesting link. It's not the book I was talking about, but it seems to be on the same subject.

[RMGuy]

Origins of power by Quinn would be my recommendation The Church History in the Fullness of Times manual is an easier and good read, but not as in-depth.

-RM

[Just_A_Guy]

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