Tyler90AZ Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 Invisible Children | Kony2012Has The Church donated to Uganda? The publicity for backing this would be amazing for The Church. Quote
jerome1232 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) I think it is worth mentioning another side of the coin (this is some critism about the invisible children non-profit)Visible Children - KONY 2012 Criticismedit: I wanted to note that I do agree with some of the critisim, however I think overall the non-profit is doing a good thing, and the way they are utilizing social media to get their cause out and known about is spectacular. Edited March 7, 2012 by jerome1232 Quote
Tyler90AZ Posted March 7, 2012 Author Report Posted March 7, 2012 You stole that from my facebook page. :)I did first see the video when you posted it on Facebook, good job. Quote
carlimac Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 I just posted this, too. Not sure how I feel about it. Very grass roots. But if it helps bring this monster to justice, I'm in. Unfortunately, he's one of so many criminals. Do we do this for all of them? I wonder how they decided he's the worst. Probably crimes against children. By the way, I suggest a good read "Half The Sky" that highlights more of these horrible crimes agianst young girls. This world is a sick place in some areas. Quote
Tyler90AZ Posted March 8, 2012 Author Report Posted March 8, 2012 The bottom line is that Kony is number one on the ICC most wanted list. Quote
jerome1232 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 The bottom line is that Kony is number one on the ICC most wanted list.The problem is the Invicible Children Organization wants to arm the Ugandian army (not sure why changed is talking about Kabila... is that where Kony is now?) The Ugandian government is also guilty of some of the same things commited by Kony (from what I can garner, to a much lesser extent it seems) Another issue is the way the non-profit spends it's money, some of the film makers are making $89 a year (about 3% of all money donated goes to 3 guys at the head of the organization) Many of their programs have also failed in Uganda.The good is I've seen great praise for their school reconstruction projects, I think lending advisors and scouting technology to african governments trying to capture Kony is a great idea. The video they made was designed to tug at the heart and raise awareness, I don't have a problem with it's one sidedness.I'm still confused about why changed is talking about Kabila, my understanding is this particualr non-profit is primarily focused on Uganda. I also don't see you backing up your claim about what this Kony guy is fighting for, your word alone won't convince me that was a lie by the film makers. Quote
Tyler90AZ Posted March 8, 2012 Author Report Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Your missing the point of the video; the video was put out to raise awareness about what Joseph Kony is doing. I don't plan to donate nor is the video really asking for that. Also the charity is not all about Uganda, Joseph Kony is not even in Uganda anymore. The Charity is about helping the Children of Africa. Edited March 8, 2012 by Tyler90AZ Quote
skippy740 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 Invisible Children | Kony2012Has The Church donated to Uganda? The publicity for backing this would be amazing for The Church. Just a point of clarification that the Church never does humanitarian efforts "for the publicity". Quote
Guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Your missing the point of the video; the video was put out to raise awareness about what Joseph Kony is doing. I don't plan to donate nor is the video really asking for that.Also the charity is not all about Uganda, Joseph Kony is not even in Uganda anymore. The Charity is about helping the Children of Africa.Well, that's the point changed was making.Yes, Kony needs to go.But, we can't just do that without knowing exactly how Kony got into the picture in the first place!If you want to help Children in Africa - taking Kony out is not the holistic solution to your problem. Museveni's hands is just as red with the blood of innocent children. Therefore, any aid to his government in apprehending Kony is giving him license to silence any opposition to his regime. The video raises awareness to the plight of the children, yes. But, it does so by putting a face to one villain and not the other.That's my problem with this video. In this age of American Idol, youtube, and dog-wagging, it is very easy for armchair politicians and bleeding hearts to make un-informed action against a situation that has been boiling for 30-some years - where there is no clear-cut distinction between the hero and the villain - in the naive effort to help the children.I mean - let's put it in a manner where every person can understand - If you would have killed Darth Vader in Star Wars Episode 4 without studying the Star Wars universe and learning about Darth Sidious, you would have put the entire galaxy in chaos way past Episode 6... Edited March 8, 2012 by anatess Quote
jerome1232 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 I mean - let's put it in a manner where every person can understand - If you would have killed Darth Vader in Star Wars Episode 4 without studying the Star Wars universe and learning about Darth Sidious, you would have put the entire galaxy in chaos way past Episode 6...Priceless Quote
Tyler90AZ Posted March 8, 2012 Author Report Posted March 8, 2012 To me it sounds like all of you are saying, don't try to solve the problem, it is just too bad. That in my mind is a cop out. I wonder if those who oppose helping Africans, were in favor of the Iraq war, to help the Iraqis. By all of your accounts the problems in Central Africa is worse. The cost of helping in Africa will be far less then what it was in Iraq. It is also a proven fact that there are many atrocities happening in Central Africa. If you were able to accept the Iraq War, why not accept this? I don't think a full on war is the right solution. However, eliminating Kony and the LRA will go a long way. It is the fact that these war criminals in Africa are able to stay invisible that is causing so much strife. Once we make them visible and show that the USA will not tolerate that behavior, groups will be eliminated. The solution is sending in our military to train the armies that will cooperate. My whole thing is we should not let innocent people die because the situation is just too bad, that is cowardly. Imagine if the colonies did what all of you are proposing, we would not have this great country. I think anywhere we start, is better then starting no where. In addition, I think the best place to start is ICC's number one most wanted criminal. Empathy people empathy... Quote
Tyler90AZ Posted March 8, 2012 Author Report Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) After typing previous post, I went on facebook and seen the charity has responded to complaints. InvisibleChildren Edited March 8, 2012 by Tyler90AZ Quote
Tyler90AZ Posted March 8, 2012 Author Report Posted March 8, 2012 no one is saying that at all. just saying that everyone needs to understand the dynamics of all the different warring groups over there before deciding who to help, and who to hinder.personally, I trust the church's humanitarian programs more than any of the other charities I've seen there, and am confident our donations to the church will continue to do much good in the area.I agree 100% with both of those statements. Quote
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