Guest mamacat Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement this group advocates zero human reproduction. i can't imagine how anyone can be so anti-life.http://www.vhemt.org/ (scroll down on the page to see content)VHEMT (pronounced vehement) is a movement not an organization. It's a movement advanced by people who care about life on planet Earth. We're not just a bunch of misanthropes and anti-social, Malthusian misfits, taking morbid delight whenever disaster strikes humans. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Voluntary human extinction is the humanitarian alternative to human disasters.We don't carry on about how the human race has shown itself to be a greedy, amoral parasite on the once-healthy face of this planet. That type of negativity offers no solution to the inexorable horrors which human activity is causing.Rather, The Movement presents an encouraging alternative to the callous exploitation and wholesale destruction of Earth's ecology.As VHEMT Volunteers know, the hopeful alternative to the extinction of millions of species of plants and animals is the voluntary extinction of one species: Homo sapiens... us.Each time another one of us decides to not add another one of us to the burgeoning billions already squatting on this ravaged planet, another ray of hope shines through the gloom.When every human chooses to stop breeding, Earth's biosphere will be allowed to return to its former glory, and all remaining creatures will be free to live, die, evolve (if they believe in evolution), and will perhaps pass away, as so many of Nature's "experiments" have done throughout the eons. It's going to take all of us going. Quote
Canuck Mormon Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 I'm all for helping the evironment in which we live, but this is nuts. Hopefully the only thing that will come out of this is, the cause will become extinct. Bunch of Wacko's if you ask me. Quote
a-train Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 Throughout world history, many people have taken up this idea, but the movement always seems to die out. -a-train Quote
Guest Yediyd Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement this group advocates zero human reproduction. i can't imagine how anyone can be so anti-life.http://www.vhemt.org/ (scroll down on the page to see content)VHEMT (pronounced vehement) is a movement not an organization. It's a movement advanced by people who care about life on planet Earth. We're not just a bunch of misanthropes and anti-social, Malthusian misfits, taking morbid delight whenever disaster strikes humans. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Voluntary human extinction is the humanitarian alternative to human disasters.We don't carry on about how the human race has shown itself to be a greedy, amoral parasite on the once-healthy face of this planet. That type of negativity offers no solution to the inexorable horrors which human activity is causing.Rather, The Movement presents an encouraging alternative to the callous exploitation and wholesale destruction of Earth's ecology. WOWAs VHEMT Volunteers know, the hopeful alternative to the extinction of millions of species of plants and animals is the voluntary extinction of one species: Homo sapiens... us.Each time another one of us decides to not add another one of us to the burgeoning billions already squatting on this ravaged planet, another ray of hope shines through the gloom.When every human chooses to stop breeding, Earth's biosphere will be allowed to return to its former glory, and all remaining creatures will be free to live, die, evolve (if they believe in evolution), and will perhaps pass away, as so many of Nature's "experiments" have done throughout the eons. It's going to take all of us going. WOW!!!!!! I was physically sick after looking at that link...I've never heard of such a group! Pure insanity!!!!!!!!!! Quote
BenRaines Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 Hey only the strong will survive. While those who believe and want to practice it will disappear. For all those who do not wish to reproduce to save the planet go for it. Anyone ever notice that they are some of the most bizarre looking folks that feel that way. They too should be on the Darwin Awards list. Ben Raines Quote
Guest Yediyd Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 Hey only the strong will survive. While those who believe and want to practice it will disappear. For all those who do not wish to reproduce to save the planet go for it.Anyone ever notice that they are some of the most bizarre looking folks that feel that way. They too should be on the Darwin Awards list.Ben RainesGood point, Ben...I feel better. I just can't believe people actually join that group! Yediyd Quote
Guest mamacat Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 Hey only the strong will survive. While those who believe and want to practice it will disappear. For all those who do not wish to reproduce to save the planet go for it.Anyone ever notice that they are some of the most bizarre looking folks that feel that way. They too should be on the Darwin Awards list.Ben Rainesyes, but if you read some of the content on that site, they are rather sneaky about what they claim. they hint at involuntary population control and reduction. although they emphasize "voluntary" in their movement, they seem quite pleased with societies that do practice these things. the scary thing is, they are not praising such practices, they are criticizing them as an incomplete effort! and when they reference this practice, they hint that it quite possibly will become worldwide, and seem to support such effort.i think that environmental policy is great, and such measures are necessary, but these absolutely do not include population reduction, or even control. you can improve the environment in support of improving the quality of life, but never at its expense.i've seen population reduction/control efforts...but never anything like this -- complete extinction! that's just so entirely bizarre that i can't bring it into any focus in my mind. Quote
Dr T Posted June 1, 2007 Report Posted June 1, 2007 We saw this link not too far back. I posted an excerpt from it. It is a crock/idiocy. Quote
JcDean78 Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 I think this is a good example of Darwin's theory at work. These people want to be removed from our gene pool and I for one suggest we let them. Quote
FrankJL Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 These people want to be removed from our gene pool and I for one suggest we let them.I second that Quote
pam Posted June 2, 2007 Report Posted June 2, 2007 This reminded me of a story I read on CNN oh....2-3 months ago. A group was considering lobbying to have the marriage laws changed. Only those that could PROVE that they could conceive and have children would be allowed to get married. One of their stances was that marriage was only to be able to legally produce children and if couples could not have children then there was no reason for them to be married. I thought "What the freak?" This is the most bizarre thing I have ever seen proposed. Quote
FrankJL Posted June 3, 2007 Report Posted June 3, 2007 This reminded me of a story I read on CNN oh....2-3 months ago. A group was considering lobbying to have the marriage laws changed. Only those that could PROVE that they could conceive and have children would be allowed to get married. One of their stances was that marriage was only to be able to legally produce children and if couples could not have children then there was no reason for them to be married. I thought "What the freak?" This is the most bizarre thing I have ever seen proposed.This was from Washington state. In the late 1990' (want to say 97, but I'm not sure if thats right) the state legislature passed a defense of marriage amendment, limiting marriage in to a man and a woman. Of course this ended up in a legal fight, going to the state supreme court in late 06, the court in a very close decision (4-3) upheld the law.Then in Feb of this year a gay rights group introduced this, initiative to require couples to prove they could reproduce before getting a marriage license, and in addition, would automatically dissolve marriages if the couple didn't have a kid after 3 years of marriage.It was never meant to be anything serious, it was a publicity stunt to attack one of main attacks on same sex marriage, namely that they couldn't produce offspring.I distinctly remember one of the people from this group making the statement "We did toy with the idea of forcing procreation before marriage, but we didn't want to piss off the fundamentalists too much." --what a lovely group of people they are... Let it to Washington...the same state where Christine Gregorie(sp?) forced 3 ballot recounts until she won governorship, by 10 votes. Quote
Guest mamacat Posted June 3, 2007 Report Posted June 3, 2007 what bothers me is that groups like this contribute to ideas for limiting personal reproduction choices woldwide, not unlike governments that currently sanction a limit on the number of children that families can have. Quote
Dr T Posted June 3, 2007 Report Posted June 3, 2007 Some of the most silly thoughts and illogical statements come from that site and links from it. Quote
Guest mamacat Posted June 3, 2007 Report Posted June 3, 2007 silly yes...but i found it on some guys blog (thought he was cute and smart til i clicked on the link to this site... )...... he was intelligent and charming. and seriously believes and promotes this illogical and dangerous disinformation. i really think he finds some kind of morality in it, as do many, esp those who have environmental proclivities. (i'm one who has environmental proclivities, but i'm also one who believes in and promotes life in every respect. childbirth and reproduction, the natural way, are the greatest gifts given us by God. it is for the sake of our children that we should focus on environmental improvement, not their destruction! what a crock! ) Quote
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