Just wondering

[Traveler]

Why is it okay and perhaps even noble to demonstrate against some political discomfort and say vile and threating things against law abiding citizen - but it is not noble to bully?  Can someone explain the difference if they believe there is one?

 

The Traveler

[NeuroTypical]

Well, off the top of my head, freedom of speech means you get to say as many jerky things as you want, as long as you don't infringe on the rights of others.

Bullying (depending on how you define it) would seem to imply (at least to me) another's rights are being infringed on.  Like in the example of someone forced by law to attend a school where they are forced to be around a bully for a period of time.  Gotta walk down that hall to get to class, must encounter the bully, etc.  Nobody is forced to attend a demonstration, even if they're talking about you and burning you in effigy.

Edited November 12, 2016 by NeuroTypical

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Traveler said:

Why is it okay and perhaps even noble to demonstrate against some political discomfort and say vile and threating things against law abiding citizen - but it is not noble to bully?  Can someone explain the difference if they believe there is one?

 

The Traveler

It actually is not OK to say some vile things that are false - that is slander.  There are also restrictions on your ability to say threatening things, for example in some situations where you imminently entice others to break the law.  Play it safe and protest the issues, not the people.

[unixknight]

14 hours ago, NeuroTypical said:

Well, off the top of my head, freedom of speech means you get to say as many jerky things as you want, as long as you don't infringe on the rights of others.

Bullying (depending on how you define it) would seem to imply (at least to me) another's rights are being infringed on.  Like in the example of someone forced by law to attend a school where they are forced to be around a bully for a period of time.  Gotta walk down that hall to get to class, must encounter the bully, etc.  Nobody is forced to attend a demonstration, even if they're talking about you and burning you in effigy.

What Neuro said.  If I say you're a rotten jerk and you should be exiled to Siberia, that's me being a jerk.  If I slam you against a wall and force you to listen to me, that's a bully. 

Edited November 12, 2016 by unixknight

[Blackmarch]

On 11/11/2016 at 2:33 PM, Traveler said:

Why is it okay and perhaps even noble to demonstrate against some political discomfort and say vile and threating things against law abiding citizen - but it is not noble to bully?  Can someone explain the difference if they believe there is one?

 

The Traveler

the two faced monster of pride. neither face can see the other.