Trigger Warning

[Guest MormonGator]

9 minutes ago, wenglund said:

They may make a pretense or pay lip service in calling out one of their own  but the only real or serious sin for the Left is to obstruct or betray Leftist elites and the Progressive (e.g. regressive) cause. To the Left, there are few sins more egregious than being a black, and/or female, and/or gay, and/or Jewish Conservative, particularly if you were once a leftist. Just ask Allen West, .Dave Rubin, Dennis Prager, David Horowitz, Clarence Thomas, Condolessa Rice, Laura Ingram, Milo Yiannopolous, and the list goes on.

To leftists, Anthony's biggest problem wasn't exposing himself online, but saving Hillary's emails to his server, which put the Left's presidential candidate in serious legal jeopardy.

At least that is how I see it.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Agree in part. There IS no greater sin to a leftist than a minority who thinks for themselves. I listen to Prager all the time and think Thomas is among the greatest jurists we have. So yes, we agree 100% on that part. 

To leftists, Anthony's biggest problem was that he's a pervert, to a degree. They kicked him out because they could afford to, his seat was safe democrat even though it swung after he was kicked out. It's back to democrat now though. Your overall point is correct though. Leftists will generally dismiss any moral failure as long as the person has the correct politics. Hence why Bill Clinton is still admired by some leftists. 

Edited March 2, 2017 by MormonGator

[wenglund]

38 minutes ago, MormonGator said:

Agree in part. There IS no greater sin to a leftist than a minority who thinks for themselves. I listen to Prager all the time and think Thomas is among the greatest jurists we have. So yes, we agree 100% on that part. 

To leftists, Anthony's biggest problem was that he's a pervert, to a degree. They kicked him out because they could afford to, his seat was safe democrat even though it swung after he was kicked out. It's back to democrat now though. Your overall point is correct though. Leftists will generally dismiss any moral failure as long as the person has the correct politics. Hence why Bill Clinton is still admired by some leftists. 

Agreed. I have to wonder if the tendency to look the other way by the Left has anything, indirectly or directly, to do with the notion of the ends justifying the means?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[Guest MormonGator]

1 minute ago, wenglund said:

 I have to wonder if the tendency to look the other way by the Left has anything, indirectly or directly, to do with the notion of the ends justifying the means?

It does, no question. 

Leftists generally get their morality from politics, not religion. Yes, there are exceptions and just because you (not you personally, royal usage of the word) know religious leftists, my point still stands. Therefore they think that people who aren't leftists are not only wrong, but also morally deficient in some way. Conservatives and moderates can handle dissent much, much, MUCH better than true believing leftists can. 

 

[wenglund]

2 hours ago, anatess2 said:

I say hypocrisy is a way of life for both major political orientations.  Hence, the stick-it-to-the-man rebellion.

Here is a whapper (caution: some bad language)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[anatess2]

10 hours ago, wenglund said:

Yes, all sides are hypocritical, But, might you be comparing mountains to molehills?   I have seen websites that are staunch pro-life while also advocating for the death penalty as well as alleged small-government politicians having managed to grow the government considerably, and more, but to me it pales in comparison to the other side of the aisle--though I may lack self-awareness.

Here are some more:

 

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

I don't consider pro-life in conflict with the death penalty.  One is innocent, the other had their day in court.

The hypocrisy of the Republicans is their claim of being the party of small government while consistently on a spending race with the Democrats and the expansion of government.

Edited March 3, 2017 by anatess2

[anatess2]

8 hours ago, wenglund said:

Here is a whapper (caution: some bad language)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

I've been a subscriber to Paul Johnson Watson before he joined Infowars.  My kids watch his vids so I had to keep tabs of the guy.  I generally like his views except for a few things like mental illness.

[Guest]

While I think we should be careful about being unkind, no matter how annoying SJW's get, I have to admit that this is pretty funny:

 

 

 

[Sunday21]

On 2017-03-02 at 4:53 PM, MormonGator said:

It does, no question. 

Leftists generally get their morality from politics, not religion. Yes, there are exceptions and just because you (not you personally, royal usage of the word) know religious leftists, my point still stands. Therefore they think that people who aren't leftists are not only wrong, but also morally deficient in some way. Conservatives and moderates can handle dissent much, much, MUCH better than true believing leftists can. 

 

I'm standing right here! ??

Edited March 4, 2017 by Sunday21

[bytebear]

I think the difference is the left tends to have saviors rather than ideas.  This is because progressivism requires a benevolent dictator to force everyone to be nice to each other, distribute wealth and resources fairly, etc.  So they cling to leaders.  That's wy Bill Clinton is revered, and why they already per-selected Hillary as the DNC pick for president, and why people liked Bernie, even if they had no idea what his actual plan was other than rich people will pay for my stuff.  And it's why they were shocked that they lost.  How can you lose against the perfect candidate?  Especially when the other candidate is so flawed personally?  Republicans, rather, look to ideology, regardless of leadership, so you get 10+ candidates all with varying ideas on how to solve various problems. Trump happened to resonate with the ideas that both parties were ignoring.  The RNC was making excuses as to why Trump was winning, rather than looking at why people chose him.  And he isn't a "savior" like DNC leaders are seen as.  He just had the right message, one that the rest of the Republicans refused to address.

[wenglund]

On 3/4/2017 at 10:32 PM, bytebear said:

I think the difference is the left tends to have saviors rather than ideas.  This is because progressivism requires a benevolent dictator to force everyone to be nice to each other, distribute wealth and resources fairly, etc.  So they cling to leaders.  That's wy Bill Clinton is revered, and why they already per-selected Hillary as the DNC pick for president, and why people liked Bernie, even if they had no idea what his actual plan was other than rich people will pay for my stuff.  And it's why they were shocked that they lost.  How can you lose against the perfect candidate?  Especially when the other candidate is so flawed personally?  Republicans, rather, look to ideology, regardless of leadership, so you get 10+ candidates all with varying ideas on how to solve various problems. Trump happened to resonate with the ideas that both parties were ignoring.  The RNC was making excuses as to why Trump was winning, rather than looking at why people chose him.  And he isn't a "savior" like DNC leaders are seen as.  He just had the right message, one that the rest of the Republicans refused to address.

Right. Trump isn't a savior. He is more like a wrecking ball slamming against the bastion of political corruption and political correctness. That is why I voted for him. And, some of his ideas aren't so bad.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-