anatess2 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Rob Osborn said: This is what I mean, compare these two scriptures. 22 Thou shalt love thy wife with all thy heart, and shalt cleave unto her and none else. (D&C 42:22) 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. (Matthew 22:37) These two scriptures tell us to love God and our wives the same- with all our heart. If we are to do this it means we have the same loyalty, charity, reverence, etc, for both. As such the pure phrase "I love you" is undefiled and represents our greatest communication of our heart. So, it shouldnt matter if we use this phrase in the same wording with either God, or our wife. To say its a lower class of language that we reserve for her and then we have a higher language for God would mean we arent really loving our wife with all our heart. Well... here's my inqury to you: Define LOVE. What exactly do you mean when you say to your wife - I love you. And what exactly do you mean when you say - I love God. Edited April 19, 2017 by anatess2 Quote
Rob Osborn Posted April 19, 2017 Report Posted April 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, anatess2 said: Well... here's my inqury to you: Define LOVE. What exactly do you mean when you say to your wife - I love you. And what exactly do you mean when you say - I love God. When I say "I love you" it means I treasure you, I would die for you, I would do anything for you, I want to please you, I live for you, you are my everything, etc. Quote
anatess2 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rob Osborn said: When I say "I love you" it means I treasure you, I would die for you, I would do anything for you, I want to please you, I live for you, you are my everything, etc. Well, that to me is a nebulous definition of Love. Love is the honest and complete actionable desire/intent to bring someone closer to God who is the source of all joy. I love my husband - means I desire with all my being to bring my husband closer to God. I love God - means I desire with all my being to be closer to God. Therefore, God is the destination that sets Him apart from myself and my husband as we move towards Him. I love God, therefore, has a different meaning and reverence than I love my husband. That is why I kneel down in prayer to God when I talk to Him but I don't kneel down in prayer to my husband when I talk to him. Edited April 19, 2017 by anatess2 Quote
Rob Osborn Posted April 19, 2017 Report Posted April 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, anatess2 said: Well, that to me is a nebulous definition of Love. Love is the honest and complete actionable desire/intent to bring someone closer to God who is the source of all joy. I love my husband - means I desire with all my being to bring my husband closer to God. I love God - means I desire with all my being to be closer to God. Therefore, God is the destination that sets Him apart from myself and my husband as we move towards Him. I love God, therefore, has a different meaning and reverence than I love my husband. That is why I kneel down in prayer to God when I talk to Him but I don't kneel down in prayer to my husband when I talk to him. I still dont think you understand what I mean. Quote
anatess2 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Posted April 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rob Osborn said: I still dont think you understand what I mean. Or you don't understand what I mean. Quote
Rob Osborn Posted April 19, 2017 Report Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, anatess2 said: Or you don't understand what I mean. Lets look at the phrases "I love you" and "I love thee". Is there any difference in the "amount" of heartfelt compassion and reverence between these two phrases? Edited April 19, 2017 by Rob Osborn Quote
Bill (Papa) Lee Posted April 19, 2017 Report Posted April 19, 2017 On April 14, 2017 at 1:51 AM, Zarahemla said: This has been a topic that I've been wondering about. We talk about mainly Jesus in church, conference talks and scriptures and it's His church, but isn't Heavenly Father the one we should be worshipping and forming a relationship with since He's the Father of us and God? And where does the Holy Ghost come in in our worship? We do worship him, in every prayer, being Sacrament, Sunday School, or Priesthood. Especially in our Sacrament prayers in His name as we speak of him twice in each prayer. We also wo ship Jesus Christ and God the Father as Christ taught us by addressing, Heavenly Father, and only Him in each prayer...as this is the way we honor Him. In addition we worship Father, Son and Holy Ghost as one God, defined in John Chapter 17, as we address the Father, as led by the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus Christ. Quote
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