bender Posted December 25, 2007 Report Posted December 25, 2007 Once upon a time I was, well still am a LDS member. I have not been to sacrament meeting in ages. Before I was a member I was a pot head but hadn't smoked in about a year. I am smoking again and something has been telling me to go back. But I like to smoke pot, and really don't want to quit. This is not a joke, if needed I can give you my member number Thanks Bender Quote
Palerider Posted December 25, 2007 Report Posted December 25, 2007 Once upon a time I was, well still am a LDS member. I have not been to sacrament meeting in ages. Before I was a member I was a pot head but hadn't smoked in about a year. I am smoking again and something has been telling me to go back. But I like to smoke pot, and really don't want to quit.This is not a joke, if needed I can give you my member numberThanksBenderwhy don't you attend anyway.....and while there look around the Chapel and you will see a room full of people that have problems different than the ones you have. We are encouraged to attend church....it doesn't say anywhere that we have to be perfect to attend. Who knows, after attending for awhile you might then have the strength to one day quit. Good Luck to you Quote
Maedoc Posted December 25, 2007 Report Posted December 25, 2007 it doesn't say anywhere that we have to be perfect to attendif fact, it says the less perfect we are te more we need to attend. "When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."If any one looks down on you for being at church while not doing everything perfectly, they do not understand the teachings of our Savior. Quote
Guest Username-Removed Posted December 25, 2007 Report Posted December 25, 2007 Once upon a time I was, well still am a LDS member. I have not been to sacrament meeting in ages. Before I was a member I was a pot head but hadn't smoked in about a year. I am smoking again and something has been telling me to go back. But I like to smoke pot, and really don't want to quit.This is not a joke, if needed I can give you my member numberThanksBenderBender,The thing about those kind of things is that they get in the way of whats really important. For some its pot, for others its different things. Some do it to feel better about life, about a situation or just the comeraderie. One things for sure, that voice to come back is persistant isnt it? Im not mocking you. I was inactive for many years. There I was, my own business, all the money I needed, and awesome condo near a creek and everything else I ever imagined I had. Yet, that voice was there, reminding me how much I didnt actually have. I was missing that connection and purpose with something greater than me. I remember praying about it one evening, going to bed and waking up the next morning to sound of my name being called. I suppose it took something like that for me to finnaly act. You simply have to start - you have to decide to take a step. Me, I went to sacrement, then eventually I stayed longer. I improved one piece at a time. Im still not perfect, and I dont have a wonderful mormon family. But I believe someday I will because someone once promised me that I would. Those tiny steps we take, never really end for any of us. We all strive to change day by day.Trust me, when I say that you can quit, I truely mean you can. Quote
prisonchaplain Posted December 26, 2007 Report Posted December 26, 2007 I agree that perfection is not required for church attendance. BUT, to engage in something one knows does not please God without repentence or regret...wow... Quote
a-train Posted December 26, 2007 Report Posted December 26, 2007 Just resolve yourself to being the most righteous pothead ever. Imagine yourself at the judgement bar and the LORD says: 'He did so well, he got everything straightened out, he just couldn't kick that weed.' Imagine He then holds out His hand and says: 'Be thou clean.' You would then be healed, your desire no more. You would be cured of your temptations for smoke.Move forward with faith in prayer, scripture study, tithes and offerings, church attendance, repentance, everything you know you are to be doing. Be honest with yourself and everyone else. The Hand of Healing will be extended before you know it.I personally went through just that myself. It wasn't pot, but I resolved to change all I could and the LORD changed the rest. Heck, He is still working on me.-a-train Quote
prisonchaplain Posted December 26, 2007 Report Posted December 26, 2007 A-train's advice is great, with one proviso: There must be an effort towards deliverance from pot. It's one thing to say "Nobody is perfect," and quite another to say it's okay to sin so that grace may abound. Even if you stumble for the rest of your life, the desire to please God should always bring conviction to sin. If one says, "I don't care if it's wrong. I like doing it, and won't give it up." That kind of sin is spiritually deadly, imho. Quote
a-train Posted December 26, 2007 Report Posted December 26, 2007 A-train's advice is great, with one proviso: There must be an effort towards deliverance from pot. It's one thing to say "Nobody is perfect," and quite another to say it's okay to sin so that grace may abound. Even if you stumble for the rest of your life, the desire to please God should always bring conviction to sin. If one says, "I don't care if it's wrong. I like doing it, and won't give it up." That kind of sin is spiritually deadly, imho.Your right. In my position, which was similar to our OP giver, I knew what I did was wrong and I think our good man in the OP knows that also. What I have found is that the LORD doesn't want us to just change one thing or a few things. He wants a new creature, we must be reborn. The transformation isn't just putting away some bad habits. The transformation is a total one. There is much to do. Let the work commence in every area in which the LORD is working with you and do not cease working in one area because progress is slow in another. As Paul would say: 'Put on the WHOLE armour of God.'-a-train Quote
prisonchaplain Posted December 26, 2007 Report Posted December 26, 2007 Atrain, I can say amen to that, then. I took the OP to perhaps be asking if he should go back to church even though he didn't want to (i.e. would not try to) quit smoking pot. He seems to know the question is untoward, because he includes "I'm not joking." It's almost as if he's asking (and I could be totally off in my interpretation) "Can I have it both ways?" FWIW: I hope your reading is accurate. Quote
a-train Posted December 26, 2007 Report Posted December 26, 2007 You know, Satan has this lie he likes to use all the time. It goes like this: 'You're not worthy...' People say: 'I'm not worthy...'I recently was asked to call the members of my ward (all of them) and schedule interviews with the Bishop. Upon calling one individual he said: 'Now you know I haven't been to Church in a while, what makes you think you can just call me up and ask me to go to an interview like that?' I replied: 'Because the LORD isn't discriminating in this offer, these interviews are NOT allocated only to certain priviledged individuals, we are all being called upon and neither you nor I can escape the LORD.' He laughed, but wouldn't meet with the Bishop.Satan gets people to not say prayers because they feel unworthy. People pass on Church, on scripture study, on fasting, on all sorts of blessings the LORD is offering because they feel unworthy. And what does it mean to deny that you are clean? It means you are either unrepentant or the blood of Christ is ineffective. Satan is ever ready to deny the power of the Atonement. 'Give up, you are passed saving, you are too bad.' he says.The truth is, if he has to say something like that, he is saying it because he wants you to avoid his greatest nightmare, repentance and oneness with God. Satan will ALWAYS tell you that you are unworthy. In his view, you are only worthy to be burned. But the LORD has power to heal and forgive and this power is NOT reserved for a special selected few, but for all who will take it.No matter how wicked and nasty you've been, don't let Satan convince you that you've lost the game when it is clearly not even half-time yet.-a-train Quote
Kathie26 Posted December 27, 2007 Report Posted December 27, 2007 Personally, I think there are many worse things in life than a little bit of Pot. I don't think it should be a reason to hold you back from going to church and communicating with God. Quote
prisonchaplain Posted December 27, 2007 Report Posted December 27, 2007 Personally, I think there are many worse things in life than a little bit of Pot. I don't think it should be a reason to hold you back from going to church and communicating with God.I said it before, but it bares repeating...no sin can separate us from the love of God. However, we can separate ourselves from the love of God. Any sin, no matter how "small," if unrepented of, will indeed separate from Him. My point all along has been: if we refuse to repent of our sin and seek deliverance, than we put ourselves in grave spiritual danger. Quote
bender Posted December 27, 2007 Author Report Posted December 27, 2007 Sorry I didn't reply sooner, thought it would email me when someone replayed.I thank all of you for your help and support, most all of you understand. I am the only member in my family, so when I was attending it was kind of unconvertible being there people would stare or give me strange looks. Turns out those same kind of people hiding behind there keyboards prisonchaplainI agree that perfection is not required for church attendance. BUT, to engage in something one knows does not please God without repentence or regret...wow...Should I talk to my Bishop? Tell him what is going on?Bender (My dogs name :) Quote
prisonchaplain Posted December 27, 2007 Report Posted December 27, 2007 Bender, are you asking me if you should talk to your bishop? If so, yes. If you meant something else by quoting my post, spell it out. Quote
Palerider Posted December 27, 2007 Report Posted December 27, 2007 Sorry I didn't reply sooner, thought it would email me when someone replayed.I thank all of you for your help and support, most all of you understand. I am the only member in my family, so when I was attending it was kind of unconvertible being there people would stare or give me strange looks. Turns out those same kind of people hiding behind there keyboards prisonchaplainI agree that perfection is not required for church attendance. BUT, to engage in something one knows does not please God without repentence or regret...wow...Should I talk to my Bishop? Tell him what is going on?Bender (My dogs name :)yes.......................speak with him Quote
Dr T Posted December 27, 2007 Report Posted December 27, 2007 Don't be fooled. Weed is bad for you. Quote
bender Posted December 27, 2007 Author Report Posted December 27, 2007 Don't be fooled. Weed is bad for you.Do you know this from experience? or is this just what you have heard? Quote
Maedoc Posted December 27, 2007 Report Posted December 27, 2007 Should I talk to my Bishop? Tell him what is going on?Bender (My dogs name :)He has the authority to receive revelation on behalf of you, so if anyone can help you, your bishop can. Quote
a-train Posted December 28, 2007 Report Posted December 28, 2007 I have a lot of friends who smoke weed. That's pretty much all they do. No I'm serious, that's all. It is the easiest way to not accomplish anything I have ever seen. But, it's not the cheapest. -a-train Quote
Elphaba Posted December 29, 2007 Report Posted December 29, 2007 I have known one person who smokes pot and swears it brings out his creativity. He has a design company and is very successful. I have no idea whether it really is the pot or not, but he doesn't seem to have a problem with it. I have also known people who, like a-train says, did absolutely nothing all day, ever. Never. Ever. They smoked their lives away, and nothing came before their pot. One of them is the father of my son. So I have experienced it first hand. His pot came before our child. I am in favor of legalizing pot. Personally, I despise what I've seen it do. Elphaba Quote
Fiannan Posted December 29, 2007 Report Posted December 29, 2007 Once upon a time I was, well still am a LDS member. I have not been to sacrament meeting in ages. Before I was a member I was a pot head but hadn't smoked in about a year. I am smoking again and something has been telling me to go back. But I like to smoke pot, and really don't want to quit.This is not a joke, if needed I can give you my member numberThanksBenderI remember a talk by GBH where they called an innactive man to be the bishop of a Mexican ward. When they drove up in his driveway he was smoking a cigar. When they informed him of the calling he said he had not been to church for a long time and smoked. The leaders then said that then he'd have to go to church and also stop smoking. I guess the man did and became a good bishop.My advice is to go to church even if you are still using marijuana. In time the importance of church will grow and the importance of the marijuana will shrink.PS -- I will note that marijuana is far, far safer than alcohol and does have some health benefits but one is better off without it than with. Quote
a-train Posted December 29, 2007 Report Posted December 29, 2007 PS -- I will note that marijuana is far, far safer than alcohol and does have some health benefits but one is better off without it than with....accept for the fact that it contains over 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco and impares the body's immune system. So, if your feelin' sickness and lung cancer, go right ahead folks.-a-train Quote
Princess3dward Posted December 29, 2007 Report Posted December 29, 2007 And APPARENTLY-I don't actually know- if you use the pipe, it is much safer that rolled because it wont cause much damage to your lungs, because you are only getting the vapor. But, I am allergic, and I hate the stuff. Even if I can't spell it being smoked somewhere near by, I know it is because my chest hurts so bad that I cry... Quote
Dr T Posted December 29, 2007 Report Posted December 29, 2007 <div class='quotemain'>Don't be fooled. Weed is bad for you.Do you know this from experience? or is this just what you have heard?Sorry for the delay, I haven't been following this thread. There is a lot of research about it's use. Pop info is "It's not that bad" or "It helps with X" but there are strong causative not just correlational data about marijuana use and psychosis and depression. Quote
Princess3dward Posted December 29, 2007 Report Posted December 29, 2007 And it apparently raises the risk of a heart attack and heart disease, and I don't know if that is lessened by a pipe. Quote
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