Political Conservativism (republicans) are Overrated

[LDSGator]

Just now, Just_A_Guy said:

I think that Cruz or Kasich could have pulled most of the party together in 2016 if they’d gotten the nomination—there was certainly a “burn it all down” component to the GOP, but I think it was manageable back then.  Nowadays . . . not so much.  

I totally agree with you there. 100%. 

[Just_A_Guy]

5 minutes ago, LDSGator said:

It might be, but rhetoric means nothing to the Jewish people that died. You sort of insinuated libertarians would be down with doing nothing . . . 
 

What I was trying to flat-out imply was that no, there’s no way that even more pragmatic/politically savvy libertarians or corporate conservatives would try to muzzle the moralistic ideologues who (I would like to think!) would be leading the opposition in such a scenario.

As for the history:  seriously, watch The Scarlet and the Black.  🙂

Edited November 9, 2023 by Just_A_Guy

[LDSGator]

1 minute ago, Just_A_Guy said:

What I was trying to flat-out imply was that no, there’s no way that even more pragmatic/politically savvy libertarians or corporate conservatives would try to muzzle the moralistic ideologues who (I would like to think!) would have led the opposition.  

Understand. 

Just to be clear, I think everyone here would give their lives to fight Nazism. So it’s not personal. 

[Ironhold]

I am, for all intents and purposes, a Reagan-era political conservative.

...Who, because of how politics has shifted over the years, now comes up as a "moderate" on a lot of those automated "where do you fall on the political spectrum?" tests. 

The way I see it, society needs to periodically test the old and new against each other. 

Is there still merit in the old ways of doing something?

Is the proposed new way of doing something truly better? 

Sometimes it becomes clear that the old ways need to crumble. But other times it becomes clear that the new ways are not for the best and may even be for the worst. 

What I find is that moderates and conservatives tend to agree with me on this approach, while liberals and "progressives" are frequently aghast and presume evil things about me. 

Society needs to evolve to survive, but not all would-be evolutions are beneficial in the long run.

[LDSGator]

16 minutes ago, Ironhold said:

am, for all intents and purposes, a Reagan-era political conservative.

...Who, because of how politics has shifted over the years, now comes up as a "moderate"

Boom! Same here. I’m a Ronald Reagan conservative who would like my president to not get into twitter wars at 3:00 AM. So by todays standards, I’m a RINO.