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Heavenly voice: "Brother Such and Such, please report to the Saviors office so that you may give an accounting for your mortal probation."
"So, I see you supported same sex marriage....tell me your thoughts on why you made those choices and how the Holy Spirit guided you to that decision.
" Um, well you see.....it just wasn't fair and they deserved equality and it was more loving to help them by supporting it"
"More loving than.... My love for them?"
"Well...no ..but..."
"And how did this assist them in coming unto me......by supporting that which can never lead to true happiness and peace? Did u perhaps consider the generations that would struggle to understand truth because of this grand deception? Or those that would stray because of the confusion you helped support? "
I cannot fathom the degree of shame I would have if when I give an accounting for my life I had supported something that can only deny our Brothers and sisters a safe journey home to the Father. We no doubt live in the last days and the bridegroom is at the door......as Elder McConkie wrote of future tests and trials in 1982 :
" But the vision of the future is not all sweetness and light and peace. All that is yet to be shall go forward in the midst of greater evils and perils and desolations than have been known on earth at any time.
As the Saints prepare to meet their God, so those who are carnal and sensual and devilish prepare to face their doom.
As the meek among men make their calling and election sure, so those who worship the God of this world sink ever lower and lower into the depths of depravity and despair.
Amid tears of sorrow-our hearts heavy with forebodings-we see evil and crime and carnality covering the earth. Liars and thieves and adulterers and homosexuals and murderers scarcely seek to hide their abominations from our view. Iniquity abounds. There is no peace on earth.
We see evil forces everywhere uniting to destroy the family, to ridicule morality and decency, to glorify all that is lewd and base. We see wars and plagues and pestilence. Nations rise and fall. Blood and carnage and death are everywhere. Gadianton robbers fill the judgment seats in many nations. An evil power seeks to overthrow the freedom of all nations and countries. Satan reigns in the hearts of men; it is the great day of his power."

The issue to me is not so much the definition of marriage. True it is that ss marriage is not recognized in the Courts of Glory and regardless of what judicial fiat decides this issue and overrides states rights and the will of the people .....the issue to me is that the discussion has been framed to insure that two men or two women in love and married is viewed as normal, wholesome and just as valid as Mr and Mrs Bytor and how dare anyone think differently.

Heavenly voice: "Brother Such and Such, please report to the Saviors office so that you may give an accounting for your mortal probation."
"So, I see you supported same sex marriage....tell me your thoughts on why you made those choices and how the Holy Spirit guided you to that decision.
" Um, well you see.....it just wasn't fair and they deserved equality and it was more loving to help them by supporting it"
"More loving than.... My love for them?"
"Well...no ..but..."
"And how did this assist them in coming unto me......by supporting that which can never lead to true happiness and peace? Did u perhaps consider the generations that would struggle to understand truth because of this grand deception? Or those that would stray because of the confusion you helped support? "
I cannot fathom the degree of shame I would have if when I give an accounting for my life I had supported something that can only deny our Brothers and sisters a safe journey home to the Father. We no doubt live in the last days and the bridegroom is at the door......as Elder McConkie wrote of future tests and trials in 1982 :
" But the vision of the future is not all sweetness and light and peace. All that is yet to be shall go forward in the midst of greater evils and perils and desolations than have been known on earth at any time.
As the Saints prepare to meet their God, so those who are carnal and sensual and devilish prepare to face their doom.
As the meek among men make their calling and election sure, so those who worship the God of this world sink ever lower and lower into the depths of depravity and despair.
Amid tears of sorrow-our hearts heavy with forebodings-we see evil and crime and carnality covering the earth. Liars and thieves and adulterers and homosexuals and murderers scarcely seek to hide their abominations from our view. Iniquity abounds. There is no peace on earth.
We see evil forces everywhere uniting to destroy the family, to ridicule morality and decency, to glorify all that is lewd and base. We see wars and plagues and pestilence. Nations rise and fall. Blood and carnage and death are everywhere. Gadianton robbers fill the judgment seats in many nations. An evil power seeks to overthrow the freedom of all nations and countries. Satan reigns in the hearts of men; it is the great day of his power."

Heavenly voice: "Brother Such and Such, please report to the Saviors office so that you may give an accounting for your mortal probation."
"So, I see you supported same sex marriage....tell me your thoughts on why you made those choices and how the Holy Spirit guided you to that decision.
" Um, well you see.....it just wasn't fair and they deserved equality and it was more loving to help them by supporting it"
"More loving than.... My love for them?"
"Well...no ..but..."
"And how did this assist them in coming unto me......by supporting that which can never lead to true happiness and peace? Did u perhaps consider the generations that would struggle to understand truth because of this grand deception? Or those that would stray because of the confusion you helped support? "
I cannot fathom the degree of shame I would have if when I give an accounting for my life I had supported something that can only deny our Brothers and sisters a safe journey home to the Father. We no doubt live in the last days and the bridegroom is at the door......as Elder McConkie wrote of future tests and trials in 1982 :
" But the vision of the future is not all sweetness and light and peace. All that is yet to be shall go forward in the midst of greater evils and perils and desolations than have been known on earth at any time.
As the Saints prepare to meet their God, so those who are carnal and sensual and devilish prepare to face their doom.
As the meek among men make their calling and election sure, so those who worship the God of this world sink ever lower and lower into the depths of depravity and despair.
Amid tears of sorrow-our hearts heavy with forebodings-we see evil and crime and carnality covering the earth. Liars and thieves and adulterers and homosexuals and murderers scarcely seek to hide their abominations from our view. Iniquity abounds. There is no peace on earth.
We see evil forces everywhere uniting to destroy the family, to ridicule morality and decency, to glorify all that is lewd and base. We see wars and plagues and pestilence. Nations rise and fall. Blood and carnage and death are everywhere. Gadianton robbers fill the judgment seats in many nations. An evil power seeks to overthrow the freedom of all nations and countries. Satan reigns in the hearts of men; it is the great day of his power."

The issue to me is not so much the definition of marriage. True it is that ss marriage is not recognized in the Courts of Glory and regardless of what judicial fiat decides this issue and overrides states rights and the will of the people .....the issue to me is that the discussion has been framed to insure that two men or two women in love and married is viewed as normal, wholesome and just as valid as Mr and Mrs Bytor and how dare anyone think differently.

Heavenly voice: "Brother Such and Such, please report to the Saviors office so that you may give an accounting for your mortal probation."
"So, I see you supported same sex marriage....tell me your thoughts on why you made those choices and how the Holy Spirit guided you to that decision.
" Um, well you see.....it just wasn't fair and they deserved equality and it was more loving to help them by supporting it"
"More loving than.... My love for them?"
"Well...no ..but..."
"And how did this assist them in coming unto me......by supporting that which can never lead to true happiness and peace? Did u perhaps consider the generations that would struggle to understand truth because of this grand deception? Or those that would stray because of the confusion you helped support? "
I cannot fathom the degree of shame I would have if when I give an accounting for my life I had supported something that can only deny our Brothers and sisters a safe journey home to the Father. We no doubt live in the last days and the bridegroom is at the door......as Elder McConkie wrote of future tests and trials in 1982 :
" But the vision of the future is not all sweetness and light and peace. All that is yet to be shall go forward in the midst of greater evils and perils and desolations than have been known on earth at any time.
As the Saints prepare to meet their God, so those who are carnal and sensual and devilish prepare to face their doom.
As the meek among men make their calling and election sure, so those who worship the God of this world sink ever lower and lower into the depths of depravity and despair.
Amid tears of sorrow-our hearts heavy with forebodings-we see evil and crime and carnality covering the earth. Liars and thieves and adulterers and homosexuals and murderers scarcely seek to hide their abominations from our view. Iniquity abounds. There is no peace on earth.
We see evil forces everywhere uniting to destroy the family, to ridicule morality and decency, to glorify all that is lewd and base. We see wars and plagues and pestilence. Nations rise and fall. Blood and carnage and death are everywhere. Gadianton robbers fill the judgment seats in many nations. An evil power seeks to overthrow the freedom of all nations and countries. Satan reigns in the hearts of men; it is the great day of his power."

Heavenly voice: "Brother Such and Such, please report to the Saviors office so that you may give an accounting for your mortal probation."
"So, I see you supported same sex marriage....tell me your thoughts on why you made those choices and how the Holy Spirit guided you to that decision.
" Um, well you see.....it just wasn't fair and they deserved equality and it was more loving to help them by supporting it"
"More loving than.... My love for them?"
"Well...no ..but..."
"And how did this assist them in coming unto me......by supporting that which can never lead to true happiness and peace? Did u perhaps consider the generations that would struggle to understand truth because of this grand deception? Or those that would stray because of the confusion you helped support? "
I cannot fathom the degree of shame I would have if when I give an accounting for my life I had supported something that can only deny our Brothers and sisters a safe journey home to the Father. We no doubt live in the last days and the bridegroom is at the door......as Elder McConkie wrote of future tests and trials in 1982 :
" But the vision of the future is not all sweetness and light and peace. All that is yet to be shall go forward in the midst of greater evils and perils and desolations than have been known on earth at any time.
As the Saints prepare to meet their God, so those who are carnal and sensual and devilish prepare to face their doom.
As the meek among men make their calling and election sure, so those who worship the God of this world sink ever lower and lower into the depths of depravity and despair.
Amid tears of sorrow-our hearts heavy with forebodings-we see evil and crime and carnality covering the earth. Liars and thieves and adulterers and homosexuals and murderers scarcely seek to hide their abominations from our view. Iniquity abounds. There is no peace on earth.
We see evil forces everywhere uniting to destroy the family, to ridicule morality and decency, to glorify all that is lewd and base. We see wars and plagues and pestilence. Nations rise and fall. Blood and carnage and death are everywhere. Gadianton robbers fill the judgment seats in many nations. An evil power seeks to overthrow the freedom of all nations and countries. Satan reigns in the hearts of men; it is the great day of his power."

"For they that are wise and have received the truth, and have taken the Holy Spirit for their guide, and have not been deceived—verily I say unto you, they shall not be hewn down and cast into the fire, but shall abide the day."

Friday nights woud continue to be date night with Mrs Bytor....and Saturday nights would be.......................................................................................................................................too. B)

Greetings from the land of the living and the blessed! After spending some time reading and adding a few posts late Thurdsday evening and battling what I believed to be some severe heart burn, I finally went to bed about 11:30 central time for some shut eye. About 4:30 AM the heartburn returned with a vengeance and included profuse sweating and after self diagnosing and debating with my wife over the merits of seeing a doctor she took control and ordered me into her car and raced to the emergency room. The short version is I had a heart attack and passed away briefly after being admitted..had I not listeded to my wife I would no doubt be mingling with Spirits.
 
More of the story to come.....

Mine is a brilliant study in the manipulation of negative space. In artistic terms, the subject is in sharp relief with color-shifting charcoal grey as the background.
 
It's a gestalt of minimalism and post-modern angst, touching on the thematic items of isolationism and urban apathy.
 
Or I was just too lazy to change the default settings. It's definitely one of those two things.

Alma chapter 1

 

24 For the hearts of many were hardened, and their names were blotted out, that they were remembered no more among the people of God. And also manywithdrew themselves from among them.

 25 Now this was a great trial to those that did stand fast in the faith; nevertheless, they were steadfast and immovable in keeping the commandments of God, and they bore with patience the persecution which was heaped upon them.

One thing you-all should realize is that to come back into the fold after an excommunication is not the easiest because it takes a huge about of introspective and shedding of a lot of pride.  There were times I thought it was way to high a bar because I had to be "perfect" to get back in.  It was a slow climb but I made it and looking back, the bar wasn't sky high, it was set at the same level of expectation expected of all members starting with learning to live what is the first three steps of the 12 step program: I can't, He can, I choose to let Him.
 
Kind-of says a lot of where one is when that severe of a disipline is imposed.

I'll state it stronger. STAY AWAY FROM THIS!!
 
Even Satan can make well done and thoughtful communication. Well done and thoughtful is not the same as right, good, and true.

I'm glad your wife had the sense to get you to the hospital.  Please keep us updated.