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I think his theme was, "Memorized scriptures are your friends."

In that case, I think there are only two temples serving that area (unless I'm missing the Lehi, Springville, or Spanish Fork temples), which makes an additional Provo temple all the more appealing.

I don't think there is any fuss, except from those who wish to fuss in any case. I expect that most people, LDS and non-LDS, are perfectly happy with the announced temple, or else they don't care. There will always be a few who just have to voice a complaint about anything that happens; these are best ignored.

Expecting chastity is not expecting perfection. Maybe someone does not want the possible disease or the psychological baggage or the inevitable comparisons that come with a previous promiscuous lifestyle. I hardly see why we should judge someone harshly because he or she has decided on certain requirements for his/her future spouse, even if those requirements include things like chastity or virginity. For heaven's sake, we don't judge someone harshly because he or she doesn't want to marry someone he or she finds unattractive, so why be condemnatory for a preference in an area of far greater import?

considered this issue. Not sure if the result is universally well-received.

That is good to hear. I like to think that I am a decent enough person that I could always care less for almost anyone, however awful. Few indeed merit the absolute limit of my lack of caring.

Pretty sure his talk was just after Elder Hewlitt's.

By definition, any and every revelation is personal. If you are asking if "the average Christian" can be given revelation of God's will and direction toward others, the answer is generally no. God reveals his will to people according to their stewardship.

In my experience, the irreligious tend to be far, far more judgmental and condemnatory toward those who don't live by their (the irreligious') rules than do the vast majority of religious folks. Religion tends to foster tolerance, which is probably one of the reasons every civilized society is historically religious.

So does that mean "no"?

I was thinking of the Draper temple, being in south Salt Lake and probably serving down to Lehi as part of its district, and accidentally repeated myself. My point was that there are already three temples serving the area just south of the point of the mountain. The Mt Timp temple is what I used to call the AmFork temple.

Apropos of nothing... Grapefruit is a hybrid of an orange and a pomelo (or pummelo, or several other variant spellings). I first saw a pomelo some years back; it looks like a gigantic grapefruit. It sections like other citrus fruits, and the flesh is sweet, very mild, and quite dry. Not sure how most non-pink grapefruits end up with their bitter edge, since neither the orange nor the pomelo tastes like that. I also discovered, after a lifetime of thinking I could eat grapefruit only if it were pink and only if I sprinkled sugar on top, that pink grapefruit is absolutely wonderful, fresh or as juice. Then I found out that yellow grapefruit is pretty good, too, and perfectly edible without sugar. Who knew? Of course, as a kid I hated pizza and watermelon, so my tastes as a juvenile may not have been the most reliable indicator.

Elder Ardern mentioned four areas into which our activities should fall: toward Godtoward familytoward worktoward wholesome recreational activitiesAnyone else questioning whether LDS.net participation falls into one of those categories...?

This is false. I never did any such thing. I think community events are important and useful. I dispute that they need to be done in the Provo Tabernacle, or for that matter that the Provo Tabernacle was ever commonly used for such events. We are not exalted as a civic community. Those who dispute and question the First Presidency's decision to use the rebuilt Provo Tabernacle as a temple do far more damage to community life and spirit than the loss of the Tabernacle ever did. I am amazed that you cannot see this.

Thanks for the clarification. If she was incapable of sex and knew it before marriage, she was morally obliged to tell him. I am pretty sure that a marriage can be annulled (made legally nonexistent, as if it never occurred) if either party is incapable of fulfilling the marriage contract -- which of course includes sex.

I am sorry about your horrible experience with a wife who abhors sex. I have to believe she is the exception. We make regulations for the rule, not for the exception. You had written: Compatibility is an issue with automotive parts. In most cases, I can't put a Chevy part into my Hyundai. They are not compatible. But human beings are living organisms with free will, so it is not simply a matter of finding out which parts fit together. "Compatibility" becomes a hugely complex issue -- one not solved merely by fornicating.

Yes, and this is hugely important because everyone knows the Provo Tabernacle has for generations been a popular destination for non-Mormons living in or visiting the Provo area. Hard to count the number of souls brought to salvation because of the open nature of the Provo Tabernacle. And now it's being converted into a temple?! How will that save anyone? I just cannot figure out why the First Presidency did not consult with you before making such a decision. Baffled, I am.

Yes, Provo desperately needs another temple. The Provo temple is by far the busiest in the world, and is not a particularly large temple compared with SLC, DC, and other big ones. Especially with the growth of the Provo-Orem area, this temple is desperately needed, even with the Mount Timp and American Fork temples nearby. Or so my Provo-area friends and relatives tell me.

No fair. I didn't know who to look for. He didn't have "HiJolly" tattooed to his forehead. (And if he had, they probably wouldn't have shown him.)

It was announced July 15. I thought I had heard about the Paris temple before now.

He contracted polio as a child and is now suffering some after-effects that polio victims sometimes experience in their old age. This is truly a remarkable man, and the first General Authority I ever knew by name aside from David O. McKay. He is constantly savaged by those who hate the Church, which frankly makes me love him even more. I have never met him, but when he dies I will mourn his passing.

Wasn't the Paris temple announced last time?

I think he also mentioned a temple in Congo.

that the Provo Tabernacle was to become a temple?!

I don't believe this. We are human beings, not automotive parts. My wife is not the same person I married, and I am not the same person she married. We have changed. In being married and striving to make a good marriage, we have changed and grown together. There is truth in the idea that some personalities get along better than others, but that should never be an excuse for failure in marriage. Again, we are human beings and children of God, not automotive parts. I have heard many who "lived together" (i.e. lived in fornication) before marriage that being married was "different" from living together. We have a dating/courting situation so that we can get to know people. That does not require sexual contact. I know my parents and siblings very well, despite not having had sex with any of them. I think you can put those fears to rest. Whatever small concessions we make for the sake of keeping God's holy commandments, we far more than make up for in the blessings we get from obedience. Some have suggested that drinking a small amount of wine might actually be healthful. If we assume that they are correct, does that mean it's a good idea for us Latter-day Saints to start drinking wine? Considering the horrific misery, devastation, and destruction caused by alcohol usage, are the supposed minor "health benefits" from drinking wine worth the risks of alcohol usage to which we would expose ourselves by disobeying God's words to us? Obedience is always better than disobedience. We are human beings, not automotive parts.