ninjormon

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  1. They created it together,the way I understood it is that Heavenly Father said the word and Christ did the work, like a construction engineer or foreman and then the crew does the work
  2. Also I am not aruing the fact that Jesus is a God, I am simply stating my understanding of the difference between him and Heavenly Father, and that during Christ time on earth he was still within the veil though it was probably very very thin for him
  3. For me it's easy, John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou has sent. 1. Christ never said I am God, he said I am the Son of God, so to say otherwisewould be to call Christ a liar or crazy person. 2. He prayed; either he was talking to someone else or he was crazy (talking to himself) 3. When he was baptized the scriptures show him, the HG, and Heavenly Father in three different places Matt 3:16+17, Mark 1:10+11, Luke 3:22, John 1:32 4. He always spoke of his Father. 5. He had to learn 6. He didn't fully understand the atonement, the angel strengthened him and helped him understand Luke 22:42+43 7. The scriptures say he was beside himself, he didn't know what to do 8. Many others Monothiesm explained in our religion, Heavenly Father is the creator of this earth, therefore the only God for it. It is what God (a god) does that makes him who he is, He is perfect beyond description, this is what it means the word was God and the word was with God, the word is the Gospel and Heavenly Father/Christ/Holy Ghost follow the law so closely/perfectly that he/they are the gospel. Therefore it is understoood that someone can become like them in the sense that they follow the law so closely they too can become gods.
  4. 8. You are not alone. You have brothers and sisters that genuinely care about you.
  5. Here's my personal advice from dealing with the same problem. 1. I realized that it wan't part of Heavenly Fathers plan. That having knowledge of his plan and going against it would not entitle me to any degree of glory or future blessings. Fighting against God or his people isn't the best idea, you are one of his people. 2. I need to be here just in case someone else needs help along the way, I say "Train hard, develop your skills, and learn as much as possible because you never know when someone is going to need you". 3. Get your Patriarichal Blessing. 4. Learn to love yourself, do things for yourself not for other people. Good/right things are right not because they are popular but because they are right. 5. Confront Satan and his angels, You are stronger than him, He wasn't even strong enough or brave enough to recieve a body and face what ever trouble or problems you are fortunate enough to encounter. 6. Look at each difficulty as a learning experience and a joy to have been a part of as horrible as it is. What ever you are going through can become a strength from a weakness and you will be able to help others in the same aspect. You know the plan of salvation and that it requires coming to earth to gain experiences and make decisions that you could not have had the opportunity in heaven. 7. Give yourself a challenge to make the best out of every opportunity you have. Face this eye to eye with a knowledge of who you are and what Heavenly Fathers plan is for you. You are part of the solution if you so choose not part of the problem, find your own personal purpose and gain direction from that.
  6. Where is the temple in China? and when is the president of China coming to America for his trip?
  7. I don't know what I can say or not say on here or what the trigger words are but I will try, of course there are personal opinions and questions. God once killed a man for spilling his seed so basically that is out of the question right? But isn't sex when a woman is pregnant kinda the same thing since it's almost impossible for her to get pregnant again? And what about activities that spill seed as foreplay between a man and wife that dont actually spill seed? Other people and animals are out of the question but what about food?
  8. Ben Raines is so old his memory is in black and white. He's so old his first car was a chariot.
  9. I want to add that though they do occassionally have genuine experiences, but are most of the time kinda dreamy and disconneted from reality, spiritually speaking. With enough singing/praise and the blood of Jesus everything in life will be okay. All you can do is pray, anything beyond that is out of our control.
  10. I was raised pentacostal and I can tell you from first hand experience it is mumbo jumbo. The preacher would always say the same thing when he was "speaking in tongues". After I was baptized in thier church they pulled me out of the water and the "elders" all put thier hands on me and shook me while telling me to keep saying hallelujah over and over, try it, then try it with several men shaking you. After getting tongue tied they said your almost there, then after another minute I was completely babbling and they said now you have the Holy Ghost. I knew then that it was wrong, look up some video on it, maybe youtube or spend some time listening to them "speak in tongues" youll see that it is rehearsed and most of the time repetitve in multiple sessions.
  11. How do I do an advanced search? I thought I'd figure it out but its proving more difficult than I thought.
  12. Yeah Tom milk before meat but a lot of non members already have thier fill of milk and need the training wheels taken off everyonce in a while, besides how would you explain the need for atonement to a Muslim? its easy to teach a Christian about it because they have accepted Christ, the hard part for them is to accept the rest of the teaching, I found out that Muslims already have a good understanding of a lot of our other doctrine that Christians reject. Thanks Hemi I will
  13. The first time I read about the destruction of the world in 2012 I was kinda freaked out to find that the exact date was my 30th birthday so I read and studied it. On that day which is debated to be Dec 12 or Dec 21, 2012 all of the planets will be aligned in our solar system. Most people believe that this will cause the north and south pole to switch positions. In the event of this happening the earth would rotate in a different direction and cause storms that most people could not survive. Thinking about what this meant if true I was asked by a coworker my thoughts, I explained that I was not scared because I dont put any stock in it that if the world must come to an end then it will happen and we cannot prevent it, also the rotation of the earth is in huge part what makes it possible for gravity. So if the earth starts to spin or stand still for a minute we would all float off of the earth, so if your scared of this pack a jacket because its cold in the atmosphere, a can of pork and beans cause youll get hungry and a parachute for the return to earth.
  14. You can start with a couple of topics that are the cornerstone of the religion, repentance, baptism, atonement. Or something that applies to you personally and in that you can learn more about yourself, you always learn by teaching a lesson. Even in nursury.
  15. PERSONAL OPINIONS I think that birth is a relative term BIRTH DEFINITION 1 : a. The emergence and separation of offspring from the body of the mother. In this first definition of the dictionary it doesnt state that it is born of the womb, In Moses 7:48-49 it mentions Heavenly Mother as being the earth itself, so using the dust/dirt of the ground is literaly man being formed of a Heavenly Mother. Hence the term mother earth. As far as Heavenly Father saying be fruitful and multiply, Adam and Eve had eaten from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, so either by that they knew how to concieve or Heavenly Father had to explain it to them, only two logical choices to me, if not one of them they would have kept doing math and not a soul would have been born. (play on words multiply)
  16. Thank you bytor2112 and tom, This is exatly what I was loking for, I have been talking to a coworker that I found out was a muslim sheik in charge of their temples in nevada, utah, and arizona and I just couldnt find the words to explain when I needed them but I told him I would study, I got him to admit Thomas S Monson is a prophet and start reading the BOM, and many other things things pertaining the gospel. I found out that a lot of Muslims have closer beliefs to us than some Christians and are more open to discussion and acceptance of a lot of gospel topics.
  17. On Church records children born or not born to parents that are already married in the temple the childrens status is labeled as born in the covenant. Therefore there doesnt have to be a sealing ceremony for those children. Maybe I can get a confirmation from a seretary on that.
  18. 2 Nephi 2 : 11 For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things. Wherefore, all things must needs be a compound in one; wherefore, if it should be one body it must needs remain as dead, having no life neither death, nor corruption nor incorruption, happiness nor misery, neither sense nor insensibility. This means that every time that this process takes place there has to be a bad in order for there to be a good in order for people to have the choice that they would not have in the spirit world, In the spirit world there are certain laws that must be obeyed in order to stay in the spirit world, by that I mean celestial kingdom. And correct me if I am wrong but the main messages are Heavenly Father is the creator of this world and many others but that doesnt mean that there is not another Heavenly Father for another earth with other plans for the other earths but two things must be present in any case, freedom and opposition, correct? My follow up question for ben, justice, or hemi is now that we are here assuming we endure to the end, will we eventually have to be the saviour of a world that we create through Heavenly Fathers guidance just as Christ did, or create a world and then send our own children thereafter?
  19. USURY 1: intrest , 2 : the lending of money with an interest charge for its use ; especially : the lending of money at exorbitant interest rates, 3 : an unconscionable or exorbitant rate or amount of interest ; specifically : interest in excess of a legal rate charged to a borrower for the use of money This is not intrest but unreasonable intrest. If you own property and rent it out the persons renting are paying usury so it is the same concept. They are paying to "use it". You cannot build physical wealth without trading time or money. But the concept is to be fair in the usage. Ecclesiastes 7:12 For wisdom is a defence, and money is a defence: but the excellency of knowledge is, that wisdom giveth life to them that have it.
  20. First of all I am kind of ashamed for even needing to ask this question, I have read it in a book before but dont remember which one and I read an average of 10 pages an hour, so to remember which one would probably take weeks of searching, so I thought I would ask here. I understand the basic need of needing the atonement because we ourselves have sinned distancing ourselves from God through a spiritual death and therefore needing Christ as an intercessor to atone for us as we could not do it for ourselves. And that once we accept then we are accountable but also covers all with lawlessness. I need help not on the what but why. If someone can get as technical as possible with the degrees of intelligence and universal laws it would be a great help.
  21. Think of which one is more imprtant to you, If you weren't american would you stil be LDS? Which coes first in your heart? Also if you must join the marines first (theres no draft yet) get it in writing that they will give you the three years off first, if its not in writting in your contract it wont matter. No matter who else writes it it wont matter unless its in your contract which you recieve in the MEPs, (military entrance processing) its the first contract you sign that also has your job. and get a signing bonus too
  22. Take as many callings are given you, obviously someone thinks you can handle it, just try to do your best, it may lead to something bigger.
  23. For most cases righteousness and wisdom will keep you safe, for extreme cases guns are good, but train your body, without a healthy body weapons can do nothing. Also some swords and shurkens, martial arts are good to obtain because our right to bear arms can be taken from us.
  24. There is no excuse in america to not have food storage. Even on food stamps you can stock up on rice and beans. Carbs, protein, and fiber is enough to keep you strong and healthy. If you can add dehydrated milk and lots of water its that much better.
  25. Just do what you feel is right, She will notice a change in you eventually and want to know more about why. She may or may not become intrested and any pulling would/should be done from within the family in a loving manner.