JohnnyRudick

Actually it may surprise you to learn that I agree with much of that. Maybe even for some of the same reasons;) I have gone over this before on other threads about that once you are "Saved" it is your duty to seek out the closest to what the Spirit revels to you is the Church congregation God would want you to join and join with it. In order to do that the Lord has shone to us that you testify to that congrigation that you have accepted Jesus as your Lord and Saviour by going down into the Waters of Baptism in their presence and sealing that testamony. Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. Romans 5:11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romans 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Romans 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. Romans 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. Romans 5:16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. Romans 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) Romans 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. Romans 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. Romans 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: Romans 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? Romans 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Romans 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Romans 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. Romans 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: Romans 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. Romans 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. We now seal this commitment with a conformation of this testimony and a blessing of the Gift of the Holy Ghost by those in authority in that congregation to luve as we have testified we will because of our being "Saved":) Now what happens if you do not seek out a congregation after being "Saved"? And what if you do not testify to that congregation as the Lord has prescribed we should testify of our being "Saved"? Does that not only show the quality of our salvation? Our desire to live as the Lord would have us to live? of what kind of metal we are works made of? Or even if it is metal at all and may be wood, hay or stubble that may be burned up at the Judgment Seat of Christ and leave us with nothing but being "Saved"? 1 Corinthians 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building. 1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 1 Corinthians 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 1 Corinthians 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 1 Corinthians 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 1 Corinthians 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. 1 Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. 1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. 1 Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain. 1 Corinthians 3:21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are your's; 1 Corinthians 3:22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your's; 1 Corinthians 3:23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's. 1 Corinthians 4:1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God. 1 Corinthians 4:2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful. Just a thought;) Bro. Rudick

I am trying to download these cool scrolls and can't figure out how to do it:bawl: I see all kinds of eye candy here and can't get at it. I have dial up. Could that have anything to do with it? I see the thumbnails. I click on one and it says that there is something transferring but I wait and nothing happens. I right click on one and it offers to download with download express and I say ok but then it says file can't download. Soooooooooooooooooooooo, HELP!!! Thanks;) Bro. Rudick

Yes, Exactly:D And I would also like to ask what makes him think that we do not pay tithing, get baptized, enter into covenants and other ordinances because we know we are saved? Did I word that right:confused: Well any ways, What does he know anyways:p Bro. Rudick

Most of it - Way tooooooo Coool;) I had to copy it down for later study. Not to sure about the Dove thing but most of it was great stuff. thanks:p Bro. Rudick

This is not another gospel this is the Restored Gospel pf Jesus Christ. Also you will please note that this is a New Dispensation. As each dispensation differs from another there is a distinct difference between the Dispensations given to Peter and another to Paul to the Gentiles and this Dispensation of the Restored Gospel for the preparation of the return of Jesus Christ in these Latter Days. The King James Bible is the most accurate English bible we have in the world today but you must know that the term bible take into account all the hundreds of variants in circulation and each one varying against the other. Most coming from mixtures of over 30 different manuscripts which differ from one another and the translator can pick annd choose to suit his or her personal feelings of what the verse aught to read of even if the verse aught to be included. So we believe the Bible to be the Word of God as far as it is translated correctly. Joseph Smith made a few minor corrections to the King James Bible by inspiration of the Holy Ghost. These corrections have been proven to be most helpful in many instances. Although in many places they do not follow any known texts they may be what the Scripture wants us to have in these last days. I have made many posts on this subject through out these forums and if you can try to find them and read them carefully and prayerfully and you may have many of your questions answered. I hope;) Good luck on your quest:) Bro. Rudick

Sinaitic Manuscript Where we get the term Holy Spirit as a name of the third person of the God Head is from the Sinaitic Manuscripts found in the trash at Mount Sinai, Courtesy of that Great Church. For instance in Mat. 1 where He is erroneously called the Holy Spirit. This is the beginning of the corruption we find in most Bibles today. These Older Better Manuscripts are passed off as being more accurate because of their age and in the process confuses mankind as to the accuracy of Scripture in general. I have written quite a bit on this subject throughout these forums and if you need more information I suggest you seek out these. Mat 1:18 But the birth of Jesus Christ was thus: After his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. Mat 1:19 And Joseph her husband, being just and not willing to make her an example, intended to put her away privately. Mat 1:20 But while he thought of these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying: Joseph, son of David, fear not to take to thee Mary thy wife; for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. Mat 1:21 And she shall bear a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus; for he shall save his people from their sins. Bro. Rudick

Right. If I had that come to mind (Light of Christ) not sure why it did not pop up there in that context I would have been spared that blunder. Wrong Father was I speaking:eek: OK, what I mean:confused: If I had thought "Light of Christ" and I should have, I would have never worded it that way:p Thanks:D My bad:( Still no test:D Bro. Rudick

Exactly Right;) Also it must be remembered that there is a difference between The Spirit of the Lord, and the Holy Ghost. The Holy Spirit as used today should more closely be referring to the Spirit of the Lord as apposed to the Holy Ghost which is a personage of Spirit. The Spirit of the Lord, a force which proceeds forth from the Father. Huh:confused: That's OK. Don't worry about it. There won't be a test:p Bro. Rudick

Was baptized and confirmed a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Chugiak Branch in 1962:D Bro. Rudick

Exactly right;) That is the Priority.:) Bro. Rudick

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Yes Jim, Thank you for bringing this up. Jesus is God, Elohim is God and the Holy Ghost is God:D Bro. Rudick

Sorry guy but, nope:rolleyes: The ordnance formula you just gave actually shows the opposite. I am so sorry to have to say this but Jehovah the God that is referred to in the verse you gave is true. Jehovah is the Savior but Jehovah is not the Father referred to in the Ordnance formula. It is Elohim, the Father of Spirits. We call the Holy Ghost the Holy Ghost because of the Death of the Lord Jesus Christ. That person of the God Head stands in as the Ghost of the Risen Lord and we refer to Him now separate as from the Spirit of the Lord. I know it is a little hard to wrap your mind around but if you study and stay in the Scriptures enough and avoid the commentaries so much, not altogether as they are good study guides but stick more to just writing your own commentaries on the Scriptures and things will start falling into a pattern for you. Bro. Rudick

The following is in sequence with the Earth being prepared for the 1000 year Reign of The Lord Jesus Christ and His Church, The Bride of Christ. Revelation 19:4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. Revelation 19:5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great. Revelation 19:6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. Revelation 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. Revelation 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. Revelation 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. The Pre-Millennial appearing of the Lord that the wicked will not relish to see and take part in. Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Revelation 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. Revelation 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. Revelation 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; Revelation 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. The Wicked Perditional leader of the World removed from the Sean. Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. The Lord now turns on the active followers and armies of this demon in flesh. Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. Then the Big Honcho is taken care of. Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. Now the Lord puts on a different face and takes care of His own. Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Now the followers of that wicked one. John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Those spoken of in "John" will have no part of the first resurrection and take part in the 1000 year reign who have died up to this point. Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. But there will be those born during this time and many will not live a life of virtue and yet will inhabit the kingdoms throughout the earth Zechariah 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. Zechariah 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. There are many verses of judgments being passed out on individuals during this reign throughout Scripture as a thousand years is a long time to accumulate wicked persons who shall be influenced by Satan when he is again unleashed to gather his that shall be born during this time. But these will be destroyed at the end of the thousand years when the earth is reborn as they will be left here when the rest is lifted up during this process of rebirth but as I said, the rest will be left behind. Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Now when these people are destroyed and cast out this begins the time of the Second Death. Now there is the time of the New Heaven and New Earth Now attention is turned to those who take part in the Second Death. Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. This is the time that most people get confused with the millennium. Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Revelation 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. Revelation 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. Revelation 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. Revelation 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. Revelation 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. Revelation 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Revelation 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; Revelation 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: Revelation 21:13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. Revelation 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. Revelation 21:15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. Revelation 21:16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. Revelation 21:17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. Revelation 21:18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass. Revelation 21:19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald; Revelation 21:20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst. Revelation 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass. Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. Revelation 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. Revelation 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. Revelation 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. Revelation 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. Revelation 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. Revelation 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: Revelation 22:4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. Revelation 22:5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever. Revelation 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. Revelation 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. Revelation 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. Revelation 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. Revelation 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. Revelation 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Those in outer darkness will have no part in the New Heavens but within the New Heavens we will continue to devolope and search out New worlds and Life will go on. Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else. Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Revelation 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. Revelation 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. Bro. Rudick

I have studied these Scriptures as well and have in the beginning believed as you but in later years come to believe the context is God's people. I could still be wrong. It is just the impression I have come to accept over time of study of the Scriptures. Bro. Rudick

There will be those who have not accepted Jesus Christ as taught by Paul in the New Testament who will live in a natural state of being. They will not receive the same state of glory as those who have lived the Dispensation as given to Paul. These people (so called good people, just godless:huh:) living during the Millennium will taste death. Why? Because this is still the natural Earth and has not yet been purified. Yeah, I have never figured out why so many get this backwards either. Bro. Rudick

John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. John 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Bro. Rudick

Among God's people, those who have the "New Birth" in Jesus Christ will not die during the Millennium. I have no source at this time I just know it from past study. You may find it on your own if you would like. I will just say, believe me or not, that the :Born Again" will not die. But they will be changed (Can't remember when they will be changed) "Translated" and will not taste death during this thousand years and I believe forever as they will be "caught up with the Lord while the earth is "changed" (Baptism of Fire?) for Eternity. I can explain more if you like I just wish I could remember my source for this info:confused: Bro. Rudick

It mostly is and in the Millennium life will go on much as it does here except that Jesus willl be with us ruling from Jeruselam and I think David from Zion. This rule will continue for 1000 years and then there will be a cleansing of the whole earth by fire. And a general judgment of Angels and those who refused the Gospel. Bro. Rudick

I don't believe we can. It is just that we try to document the Truth for Truth Seekers. Bro. Rudick

Me too. I tried to say this the other day and not sure if I botched it but I wish I had had roytucker in my pocket (or fingers) to write it for me:D Bro. Rudick

Well, considering when you think the spirit enters the flesh this can be a problem. Situations such as this and some others makes me tend to think that the spirit enters the flesh at conception. AND Stuff:D happens:o God is not at fault. Imperfections of the flesh can make things go many ways and even though I am convinced that the flesh will do it's best to conform to the form of our spirit. . . Someday soon we may be able to more fully understand why sometimes our gender fails to conform but. . . God Bless you and you are in my prayers interalia:) Bro. Rudick

Looks to me like you have a great outline here. If I had the mind:confused: anymore I would love to make a book out of it. I think you have done a wonderful job so far. Thanks. I have copied and pasted it out onto my hard drive for further study and if I ever get my mind back I will try to do something with it if ya don't mind:) Bro. Rudick

No, I think the Chaplin has the timeline right. I think some us us get this timeline given confused. This is after the Millennium and the recreation of the Earth. Yet God wipes away tears. Got to be something there. I just don't understand it either Bro. Rudick

I know it says there will be no more pain or even crying. But in order for Him to wipe away tears, there must first be tears. I don't get the difference. Maybe the angel had a different idea about crying. I really don't know. Just a thought. Bro. Rudick