Setheus

No it isn't. Do you see the White Sepremists cheering for him? Whenever a black person does well do you see a rising of the NAACP? The only reason most people on this board care anything about this guy is because he is mormon and this looks good for your church. I'm not stupid, please don't pretend I am. So for Mormons to support a Mormon isn't "supporting with whom we identify?" You aren't the sharpest marble in the bag are you Tr2? And yes I think you are a little stupid....or you'd be the one kicking some a** on the show! Have a sun shine day.

I understand your point, but I don't believe that's true. You're suggesting that someone would come here knowing that they would be raped when they're 5 years old? I don't buy it. If that's true, then that reminds me of something someone else said on that subject. They suggested that maybe those spirits who chose to come here with mental handicaps weren't as strong, so they did that to take the easy way out and get a pass to the CK. I don't buy that either. Thanks for your opinion though, Setheus. I like to know peoples' reasoning for why God would allow such things to happen. I am at a loss with this. I didn't say they knew the spicifics of their life. I said they KNEW the dangers (very broad use) of this life. We know "hell " will suck and "heaven" will be awsome. I don't know the specifics anymore than I knew about this place from my first estate.

I think those children, like us, were well aware of the dangers of this world. They came here anyway out of faith and trust in God. Now if you feel compelled to adopt, perhaps this is your chance to prove that their faith was not in vain. Does that make sence?

T-ank Y-u. Now, for the two ladies in the back row....We shall cut the baby in two equil parts. That way you can both have the child... B)

Come on "kids". It's clearly out of respect for the name and title. Do you guys always ask why a man from Japan will bow and a man from the US will shake your hand or why a man from Vietnam will not look you in the eye when speaking to you or why a Buddist in Thailand will not sit with the bottom of his foot toward you and will Never touch you on the head or why "ladies first"?

This backs up what The Traveler is saying. ie Cheribum are "exalted". To be Exalted is to gain godhood. Or to recieve ALL that the Father has. To be JOINT heirs with Christ. You have just won a point for Traveler.

Except for me. Take EVERYTHING I say strait to the bank and cash it!

Thought this was Clinton....only Kerry doesn't play the sax.

um..*cough*...didn't the missionaries tell you that the spirit revelith the truth in all things? Thats the beauty of it. You don't have to take "one man's" word for it. You can ask God if its true and just take "one God's" word for it.

for my daughter it will be the age of 80.

You said in another thread that the Cherubim (<---a plural form of Cherub) always came in two's. Can you expand on that? If this is so then who was Jesus' companion? I'm not sugesting that this mystery cherub is "another way" to the tree of life. I am only curious as to the "two's" question. Why?

That could be it. Its just part of a days work now.

My favorite thing about LDSTalk's message boards is that you can choose a topic to read and by the time you get to the 2nd or 3rd page the conversation is not anywhere near the topic title!

I love to see grown women (and jet...if not a woman) fight about NOTHING! I say let Marsha post what she will and let her ask what she will, and let Starsky change her name as often as she will (why must if be deciet that motivates a name change? Didnt she change it once for protection from someone? and what if she just got tired and wanted a change?) And let jet flirt with starsky by taking her side in this redicioulous matter. And another thing....ALL HAIL KING SETHEUS! B)

I dissagree. I think that you can "just walk away" from things. I have taken lives and I never went through a "journey" or any of that to "get on with life". My rifle and sidearms and myself are "fire and forget" weapons. I'll never go need to go to a shrink and I'll never feel the need to repent for the killings. So how about that?

I have a question. If one feels the promptings of the spirt. (who bares the truth on all things) then why would it matter really that I allow myself to get washed up in all the debate of what is translated correctly or who is twisting what up? I mean if I question a topic or area then I pray and ask. Then I get the answer strait from the horses mouth. I believe with faith one can skip the middle man and know for himself. If a prophet of God says something then first ask if that is truly His prophet, then that should quiet your doubts....if not then ask concerining the particular thing that bothers you. Snow, who is doug?

Things that are beyone our mental grasp we often consider "crappy", or "scary", or "benieth us". Maybe thats why religion is such a huge issue? Since we don't understand the mind of God we fear or think its all crap or not really worth our time. Just my thoughts.

as member of the armed services, if I were sitting on a plane that has just been hijacked and was told that if "we sit quietly that no one will get hurt" I'd know right away that is a lie. but many civilians would buy into that. Secondly, if I decided to take action against the hijackers I'd EXPECT my fellow passengers to get up and take action with me. Or if someone else beat me to it and took action before me I'd sure get up and take action with them. Even if nobody had any training there is always the Bee swarm tactic. They can cut or shoot some of us but not all of us. And I'm sorry, if you let yourself go down because a man has a box cutter. ...I'm glad the men that took the beaches in WWII didn't have that pansy, non surviver attitude.

Traveler, you said that Cherubim always come in twos. I am very interested to know more about that. You said you didn't have time to write why this is so would you please refer me to where I can read about this on my own? Grazie!

Is that the list the corrupt priests from the middle ages (who had no priesthood) came up with? Since you know so much, please tell me about the angel Zophiel,(Spy of God). He seems like an interesting fellow. Or any of the other angels that are named with nothing to back up the fact that the names are actually of real angels.

Since "perfect" can only be one thing...ie you are either perfect or not perfect...then it stands to reason that only a god can be perfect. Part of being perfect is being complete. If we do not attain the potential for which we were created then we are incomplete and thus not "perfect".It would make sence that Cherbum, Seraphim, and Angels, are as D&C say are those who did not keep the new and everlasting covenant and did not pass by the angels....but became angels. These are just ranks of angels...or servants of God. So they are infact His children.

Because anyone who is "Anti" anything get upset when the thing they despise is recognized as a great thing. And the Prophet represents all that is rightious and THAT alone will stir up the enemy to harden the hearts of men.

But then Jesus (the Son of God) Commands us to "be ye perfect, as your father in Heaven is perfect." Now how can we attain this and obey this command if not that our thoughts and our ways become "His" ways and "His" thoughts?....and ultamitely attain god-hood And He calls us His children...Every other creation on earth that has offspring desires and expects that "child" to grow to be an adult 'whatever'. So it is just a given that a "child of (a) God" would grow and develop into a god. How does that not make sence? Is is like saying all rodent babies will grow to be like their parents..EXCEPT for one certain species of rodent. ??? And in Isaiah the Lord was speaking about His ways/thoughts being higher than ours here in this mortal world. (Duh! Of course they are but we get big heads and forget so He had to point it out.) And when we are in Heaven with Him then we will not dwell "lower" than Him.

only a homophobe would come to that conclusion. If you do not like the marriage example then instead think of being "one" as a military unit is "one".

That is the DUMBEST thing I have ever heard. Ok, not really, but it is in the top 10. Lets pretend I am that kid and you are my dad. You give me "the talk" and say that fornication is a sin, it is bad, you tell me all the bad things that can come of it etc etc...then you hand me a condom (just in case) After all that hot air you just crammed down my throat you have in a single move made it all null and void. By handing me a condom you just said "Son, you are too stupid to be good and I don't think you are really smart enough to wait till marriage and on top of that I DON"T REALLY TRUST YOU. Thanks "DAD!"