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There is plenty more my treat. :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

I cannot say that you don't have any truth because that wouldn't be true, but neither can you say the same about me.

Why is everyone counting the pages and popcorn?

I have read it from cover to cover and continue reading. I encourage you to do so. I understand that the Bible can be twisted to say just about anything anyone wants to believe. So apologetics is futile. All we can do is plant the seed of God's truth and trust that His word will not return void.

Thanks for answering my question. I nominate you for moderator on this forum. By the way, what is your official cannon of Scripture. I believe Jesus is the answer. I believe that we can hear from Him directly. God might send a prophet to give us a kick in the rear end like he did with King David in we are missing the mark. Jesus shows me things when I pray. I believe that God has me on this forum for His purposes. God is in control not man or the starters of this forum. God wanted me here or it wouldn't have happen. I do not try to second-guess God as to what his purpose is. We must be willing to trust how the Lord leads in our life. I am always looking for divine appointments. I have been straightforward and honest on this forum and I haven't disrespected anyone by calling him or her names. I have learned a lot of things about Mormonism that I didn't know before. I want to learn more about them, so I can be a more effective witness for Jesus. I am basically an unprofitable servant of the Lord trying to do a better job. I am also in danger being here because there are many things being said that I can identify with from my spiritual experiences with the Lord; however, I don't have a peace that Mormonism is the direction God is taking me simply because I am here. I know that there are some of you who think that is God’s plan for me to be a LDS, but He has shown me that I need to share the truth in love with you. I pray that the Lord's purposes will prevail in Jesus name. I pray that God opens our eyes to see the way He does. Oh God, Father in heaven I pray for the truth to prevail. We come against the deception of Satan who lies in wait to deceive. The Lord bind you Satan. You are a liar and the father of it. Jesus you can and will save us from the doctrinal maze of confusion and its author. Thank you for doing it Lord. In Jesus’ name!!!

If you would make a list of the unanswered questions, I will try my best to answer them. I honestly don't know of any.

My mistake. Fishing means something different to me than it does for you. Why are you able to get away with insulting people? Is it because you are a moderator or you don't consider me people?

I thought you said I was fishing without bait. And you say I am confused about what I believe. Fishing means something else to me than for you. Jesus said follow me and I will make you fishers of men. I know what i believe. I follow Christ not man! Acts 8:20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.

Wow, how your talking!

You wouldn't, but who is Jesus to you?

I feel a pulling, but I know it is the devil. I need to back off a little this is dangerous stuff.

Yes, that is hepful I am saving it to my favorites.

Well, this is really going to be tough. You have a point, but what has really changed since Joseph Smith's visions accept a new division and another church that is contrary to the others. I see no restoration of the gospel or the body of Christ. All I see is many contradictions being cleverly and conveniently explained away from the Bible. I have a living prophet. Jesus is who He is. I also have the Spirit of God that leads me into all truth and He will show me great and wonderful things I know not and prepare me for what I am not ready for yet. I just don't need another dose of deception. I have been there and done that.

Okay, I have a living prophet too!

I am God's witness to you!

Well, these are excellent questions. I am not sure where to begin. There are certain things that God has spoken in the Bible that are not considered to be translational errors that appear as contradictions to Christians like me in LDS belief. Such as "As man is God once was; as God is man may become" Is.43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. There are other such verses that contadict the LDS statement. Other Biblical verses that contradict it are "God is Spirit..." I do not believe God was just referring to hand made idols of wood and stone. God was referring to deep spiritual idolatry of one's belief that doesn't necessarily involve hand made idols as well. Rev. 3: 13He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. 14And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; 15I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. 20Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. All the churches God spoke to in Rev. needed some refining, but they are still His churches. Why would you think that the LDS church is the only true Church? Yes, but His word is established forever. It used to be that Israel would have to follows laws and rules and make scrafices, But Jesus is the Lamb that takes away the sins of the world. Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever. He stands at the door of our heart and knocks saying, "If any man hears my voice and opens the door I will come in and sup with him and he with me" I have had this experience have you?

Thank you that was insightfull.

The verse you are referring to is "the preaching of the cross is to them that are perishing foolishness, but unto us that are saved (Being saved) it is the power of God." I am saved. I have the gift of etenral life and have been born again. I have love and faith that works by love. I want to see others out of deception and knowing that they too can have eternal life. I expect to be judged for sharing the truth of the gospel and rejoice in it. Unlike the religious rulers of Jesus time, I am not willing to stone those who do not see the Scripture as I do, but that doesn't stop me from trying to share the love of the truth. I have other things to do with my time, but people and their souls is God's business. As Paul states: "Woe is me if I do not preach the gospel." I am living up the the light God has given me. Can you still blame me for that?

:captain:Okay lets drift. Jonah didn't say God would destroy Nineveh whether they repented or not. They repented.

Yes, but they would never come against the inspired ancient text! Man inspired of God wrote these Manuscripts, and God does not change with time. His word is established forever. Those who don't believe that are push or tossed around like the waves of the sea with no stabilizing ballast. Those who refuse the love of the truth, God sends them a strong delusion that they may believe a lie.

No, but I believe it is more accessible than the golden plates.

Lets not leave out Aramic

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:roflmbo:Who said there wasn't a laugh button? Enjoy the ride.:lol:I was asked how I deal with contradictions in the Bible. I answered that question, and now I am asking how you deal with yours in LDS doctrines and beliefs etc. I think it is a fair and reaonable question. I know you have them so why do you pretend differently. At least Snow was honest in saying "contradiction exist so what." I don't feel the true church of God needs to be defended. The true church is always on the offensive against the strong holds of Satan and his deception. In other words, I believe the best defensive is a good offensive in the name and power of Jesus.