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We can always search out the correct translation. No one says we have to follow the translations of the KJV, NIV or the many others. What are those core beliefs and how well do they line up the the proper translation of the Bible? What Scriptures are you referring to, and what few contradictions do you find in core doctrine? Are they in the BOM or the Bible or both?

:offtopic:You are speaking of the evolution of prophecy, but look at the title of the thread. Maybe we could bring this on track by asking how do you know that prophets are from God? Not all that claim to be spokesman for God are from God. One way I judge prophets is by what they say and how it lines up with Scriptures and whether or not their prophecies come to pass. If they contradict the word in the Holy Bible and their prophecy fails, that is a red flag. :ohnoyoudont:If someone fails to see the flag, they are in deep trouble and deception.

Yes, I agree. I think Jesus was speaking as the son of man in one instance and as the Son of God (or God) in the other. This would make both statements true.

I am not sure how this fits the topic of this thread.

To be honest with you, I don't know where the congregation of churches rejected plurality in marriage. It is also rejected from society as a whole especially in this country. Isn’t that a contradiction from the way things were done in the OT? In fact, there really isn’t anything stated against plurality in the Bible as a whole that I can find. I know it states that if one wants to be a bishop he should be the husband of one wife. Does any have a take on this? I know this used to be a practice in the Mormon Church, but they were denied status of a state if they didn’t stop the practice. I don’t see from a Biblical basis why all the opposition. These are areas I don’t understand and welcome input. From both a sides of the spectrum.

Okay Carl. Is anyone forcing you to get on a Merry go round?

I don't see any bias against the church in this thread. Where:confused:

Some fish don't need any!

That is a good point, but some times I try to search out whether it is or not by going to the original Greek and Hebrew text.

Fishing mostly, but Jesus said, "If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true" but in another place Jesus said, "If I bear witness of myself, my witness is true." This seems like a contradiction to me. I have my opinion of this. Your comment.

I was asked how I deal with the contradictions in the Bible? Some times there are things that appear to be contradiction but are not. I guess I would handle it the same way as Mormons deal with contradictions in Mormon writings. So maybe we have some common basis on how to do that. But to make sure, I would like to know how Mormons deal with the contradiction in Mormons writings. :)

I agree. I am done. Please tell the others to stop responding. I ahavre said all I know about this topic. Lets look at some thing else.

Do you think this doesn't happen in Mormonism?

Yes, God wants us to know Him. To know Him is to have eternal life.

How do you deal with the contradiction in the Mormon writings?

I didn't really interpret it as a fight. I thought it was a discussion

That is a good question. Can you answer it? You just might be right.

If you choose to see it that way. We are all free to choose what we believe, but we are not free from the consequences of those choices.

God is passed finding out. His ways are not ours nor are His thoughts ours. As high as the heavens are from the earth are His ways and thoughts from ours

It seems that Snow is saying that God is flesh and blood because Jesus is God. But if I say it, I may be told I am being slippery. Yes and no to your question Pam. Jesus is God, and He is the Son of God. I don't know how God does that, but I am not going to speculate beyond the Bible of how that is or is not done. No one should do that. Where is it written that we should comprehend God's essence?

No, I haven't seen Him, but I have a vision that I can interpret as seeing His glory, but I won't go there! If someone saw what I did they might say they have seen God face to face!

Pam that is a good point. He is flesh and blood. In Christ Jesus. We agree, praise God!

I have already said that Jesus is God in the flesh.

Actually you have brought up some good points. These verses have puzzled me; however, it doesn't make for a good argument that God is flesh and bone. Many people say they can see even though they don't physically see. For example, the lyrics to Amazing Grace "I was blind now I see" There are many ways of seeing and perceiving that can be interpreted as seeing. If I saw some of God's glory, i would say I have seen God. Or any spiritual vision. We have to take all the Scripture and look and understand what is Spiritually discerned, Look at these verses for instance: Gen. 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.33:10 And Jacob said, Nay, I pray thee, if now I have found grace in thy sight, then receive my present at my hand: for therefore I have seen thy face, as though I had seen the face of God, and thou wast pleased with me.Jn 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. Jn. 43-1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. 1Tim. 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen. Jn. 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. Are we now going to say that the apostels didn't read the Bible? But you have brought up some good points Snow. I am willing to drop this if you are. It seems we are getting no where. I don't really understand why Jacob said, "I have seen God face to face" except that he many have wrestled with a spiritual being. How does he know it was God if he had never seen Him before? In other words, your argument for God being flesh and bones from a Biblical perspective is very weak. Especially when the apostles say no man hath seen God at any time. Have you seen Him?

Does that mean you believe that the Book of Mormon and LDS doctrine clashes with the Bible? That is what we are trying to establish with this thread.