Heather

That's right! It revolves around me!

or better yet, get a photo printer and your own photo paper and make thousands of copies for everyone!

Toaster, don't go that far. I would be surprised if he has ever kissed a girl. ______________________________ Franken, try not to worry about it. You're at that age where it stinks to do just about anything. No matter what you do, you're going to get teased. Just get through it now, knowing that the women you really want in the end are far more impressed with personality, intelligence, and ethics (work, personal, etc.) then how well you can fit in with the crowd and how well you can impress the "cool" kids. A lot of the "cool" kids I went to school with have done pretty much nothing with their lives and are now the last people I would want to be friends with or be married to. Work hard and continue your education or whatever goals you most what to persue, and never let what anyone else says get you down. BTW, a lot of women are attracted to metro-sexuals. I married one myself. It's important to me that the guy I'm with cares about how he looks, dresses, and also shares a lot of my same interests. He's far more interested in the family then many "macho" men I know, and it's a total joy to know that the entire weekend is not going to be wasted sitting in front of a tv watching ball games.

I don't really agree with that, although I can see where you're coming from. What you're saying to me is the same as saying, "Don't teach the people in Africa about AIDs, unless they come to you about it first. Don't teach anyone how to take care of their families or themselves, unless they start to wonder for themselves." Members of the Church believe and know that they have a message which will make people and their lives happier, just as the Humanitarian groups know they have a message which will make people and their lives happier. I do feel that faithful members of the Church know that living their lives acording to the gospel has made them better people and kept their families stronger and closer together. That being said, I can completely understand why they would want to share that message with others. If someone refuses to listen to those groups who are trying to help people in Africa, there truly isn't anything, anyone can do about it. Education in all forms isn't something that can be forced, and I don't believe what missionaries are doing is forceful proselyting either. The person can choose to listen to the missionaries or send them on their way. It's as simple as that.

Do we really want to start advertising, "Be Mormon and we'll take care of you...and we're not talking just salvation!"? Frankly I'm tired of seeing some of the people on welfare here who would have no interest in the church if they weren't getting hand outs. I've seen a family move from one ward to another, the moment the bishop tells them they're back on their feet and they don't need the assistance anymore. Yes it's a great program, and great for those who really need it, but not the reason to get people to join the church.

It's not like Joseph Smith was the only prophet who received revelation for governing commandments and doctorine. Any prophet now and past could've added to the word of wisdom.

The WoW never says "caffeine." And it is quite possible that caffeine is not the reason that coffee and tea (hot drinks) are bad. However, caffeine is a stimulate and therefore not something healthy we should be consuming. It has never been said, "Coke is okay."

I agree that AIDs awareness and education needs to be brought to light, especially in Africa, where a huge majority of the population doesn't believe in it, or at least believe in how it is transmitted. However, when I go and see a broadway musical, and at the end of it they come out on stage and ask for donations for those in the arts with AIDs, I never give anything. I think they should know better, and I would much rather donate to cancer research. Sure, I bet there are those who contracted it through no fault of their own, but I believe that number is very small, and the world wouldn't be facing the epidemic it is if people would follow the guidelines. I think the problem now is that the drugs to treat AIDs are so good, we just don't see the mass number of people dying anymore or being sick. It's almost like we've become a generation that has forgotten the dangers. That being the case, I think it is very important to keep educating everyone about HIV/AIDs

This is why Please asked to be removed. I honestly feel I can't do much about this if "Report this post" is not used. I really don't have the time right now to read every post on the board, and that's why I rely so much on the users reporting problems. This is what Please wrote me: This is my response: Please's reply: I then sent her an email and let her know that the member name was changed, all personal information has been removed, but I wouldn't remove all of her posts because of consistency in the threads. That would be unfair to all other users.

Reading stuff like this only makes me shop at walmart more. Went there today, and I'm going back tomorrow. Thanks! :)

I agree with you Puska...the problem is there are mean people in this world. If your boss scowls at you and never praises you, how will you deal with it? Call your mom and tell her to find you a new job or a new boss? That's what I believe the lesson is he is trying to teach. No matter what we do or where we go in life, at one point or another, we're going to have to deal with rude people. I had a seminary teacher who I thought was a complete jerk. He said somethings I didn't agree with and he treated some members of the class horribly. I never went to my parents; instead I went to the seminary president and told him I wanted to be moved to another class and the reasons why. I also wrote a letter to the seminary teacher who's class I left and told him exactly why I could no longer be a member of his class. Please if that had happened to me at parent teacher conference, I think I would've had some very choice words to tell her and the principle and the school board.

www.loveandlogic.com or go onto amazon.com. I think you will like the example on the inside cover about money. Here is the link, then you need to flip to the back cover to finish reading the example: http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0891093117...621#reader-page I went to a conference Jim Fay did here in SLC a few months back and really enjoyed it. You can sign up for a email newsletter from that site as well. Here are two of my favorites from the past:

Have you read any of the love and logic books? They're my favorite parenting books I have ever come across. It's all about enjoying your children and raising them to take responsiblity for their actions. It's definately the path we are taking when it comes to raising our children.

We had the same thing happen at a nephew's blessing. Our recommends had expired the month I gave birth to my first son. They were actually a few months expired if I remember right. The bishop said it was fine (and to get it renewed!) but that they had some concerns in the past where family members were having non-members in the circle.

For who? :) Doesn't matter what I say, I know there has to be someone who is going to post a nit-picky argument against it.

17 people in a 2400 square feet home? YIKES! Stack them thin and stack them high. Home schooled too? I'll just keep my mouth shut.

I disagree. I can show respect, admiration, and concern for a person, even if I disagree with his/her beliefs. Even in the Church, members don't agree with each other on every single subject. You and I differ in our feelings towards Shakespeare. That doesn't mean I don't respect you. I also don't agree that anyone can make anyone else see "the light." That is something that come through the Spirit, and I've failed to be persuade that the Spirit can teach and open up the hearts of those who are willing if the message is delivered in such a way that the Spirit is driven from the room. _________________________________________________ Respect 1. To feel or show deferential regard for; esteem. 2. To avoid violation of or interference with: respect the speed limit. 3. To relate or refer to; concern. n. 1. A feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem. See Synonyms at regard. 2. The state of being regarded with honor or esteem. 3. Willingness to show consideration or appreciation. 4. respects Polite expressions of consideration or deference: pay one's respects. 5. A particular aspect, feature, or detail: In many respects this is an important decision.

Members can see the open forum, but can't enter it. They see the message instructing them what is in it and to pm me if they want permission to view it. The open forum isn't allowed to post anti-anything. It’s merely a place of open discussion on all view points, and all members are required to show tolerance and respect for each other. It's not a bashing/flaming forum, and sacred things about the temple should not be posted there either. The reason for the open forum is that there are many LDS Talk members who are not LDS. This is so they can express their view points without running into the problem of new comers to the site being misled as to what is official Church doctrine. In short it saves me a lot of headache of coming across as being intolerant to others and their beliefs. I welcome all members of all faiths to this board and I’m willing to allow them to have a place to share their beliefs, as long as they can do so in a respectful manner. Any bashing, profanity, or otherwise lewd conduction from anyone is deleted and the user is either banned or suspended.

Have you seen Ali's daughter box? Yeah, she's awesome. :)

no, how? Didn't Oliver try and do some of the translation and he couldn't make it work? I had heard that the plates were actually covered during the entire translation process and that Joseph never had to ask where he had stopped before each break.

Yup good thing. :) And I know I'm so wonderful that my husband would rather be with me than have a dozen other women all at once. Was Emma given any say in the matter? I'm really interested in that book Snow. I'll have to go get a copy of it myself. Edit: just got it on Amazon.com. That was the cheapest place I could find it. $ $23.10, and free shipping since I ordered another book to bring the total over $25.

From my point of view, I don't see anything good from plural marriage. Sure it might be fine for others, and some women might even prefer it. Call me selfish, but I would rather have no husband than have to share him.

Snow, have you read anything in regards to Eliza Snow being pregnant and Emma pushing her down the stairs, causing her to miscarry?

Thanks so much everyone!!