Heather

I don't think a topic like that would get out of hand, especially when it's LDSTalk.com's rules to respect one another and different beliefs. I also think that many of the posters are parents who only have the very best in mind for their children. I completely agree that parents who decide to home school are doing it because they feel it's in the very best interest of their child. For that alone I respect those who chose to do it.

I don't know if I see "home-schoolers" as extreme weirdoes. I think you can find extreme weirdoes in public and private schools too :) I'd never consider doing it, because I think of everything I would've missed out on if I didn't have the social benefits of public school.

I think you need to find out what the real issue is. If it's lack of friends in the class, now that her one friend has moved away, maybe have some social activities at your house so she can get to know others better. If she doesn't like the idea of getting up for early morning seminary, then hold seminary at the same time in your home. I think that you just need to sit down with her and ask her to be open with you, and that you really want to find out what is bothering her. Maybe she doesn't really know, and ask her to take some time to think about it and get back to her. Whatever the reasons maybe, don't make it about you and your wife and what you want and expect. I would ask her what kind of standard she wants to hold for herself and what she wants to achieve, and then how she is going to go about reaching those goals.

Josh, do you know what salt tastes like?

The skeptic will say that to bear testimony when you may not know you possess one is to condition yourself; that the response is manufactured. Well, one thing for sure, the skeptic will never know, for he will not meet the requirement of faith, humility, and obedience to qualify him for the visitation of the Spirit. Can you not see that that is where testimony is hidden, protected perfectly from the insincere, from the intellectual, from the mere experimenter, the arrogant, the faithless, the proud? It will not come to them. Bear testimony of the things that you hope are true, as an act of faith. It is something of an experiment, akin to the experiment that the prophet Alma proposed to his followers. We begin with faith—not with a perfect knowledge of things. That sermon in the thirty-second chapter of Alma is one of the greatest messages in holy writ, for it is addressed to the beginner, to the novice, to the humble seeker. And it holds a key to a witness of the truth. The Spirit and testimony of Christ will come to you for the most part when, and remain with you only if, you share it. In that process is the very essense of the gospel. Is not this a perfect demonstration of Christianity? You cannot find it, nor keep it, nor enlarge it unless and until you are willing to share it. It is by giving it away freely that it becomes yours. Boyd K. Packer, “The Candle of the Lord,” Ensign, Jan. 1983, 51 We must remember that neither God nor his gospel can be found and understood through research alone. The skeptic will some day learn to his sorrow that his egotism robbed him of much joy and growth. The things of God—and often the things of his earth—cannot be understood by the spirit of man, but are understood only through the Spirit of God. (See 1 Cor. 2:11.) The Savior could have taken highly trained minds from the temple porches for the builders of his kingdom. But he went to the seashore to get humble fishermen. He wanted followers who would not depend upon their own intellects alone to ferret out truths. He wanted unbiased followers who were trusting, sincere, and willing to serve. There were many trained and educated Jews in Jerusalem who rationalized themselves completely out of a testimony and a rich spiritual life. Though Jesus was among them and they could see his miracles and hear his words, those scribes and Pharisees failed to recognize him as the Redeemer because they relied only on their mental processes. Spencer W. Kimball, “Seek Learning Even by Study and Also by Faith,” Ensign, Sept. 1983, 3

All the more better then for them to have a forum where someone can tell them, "By the way, you're completely whacked." :)

It'll be interesting to see a move away from some of the old stereotypes

Feb. 12

Well here is my two cents on it. I knew a guy who was attending BYU and was married with two children. He was going to school full time and working full time, and the stress of it all and taking care of the family caused him to have a nervous break-down, where he was laid up in bed for weeks. Someone very close to me ended up dropping out of BYU (or rather was suspended and never went back, because his grades were so bad) because he was trying to do full time school and work with 2 kids at home. This guy was top of his class in high school. Now he works manual labor and is separated from his wife with 4 kids. To me it's not really worth the added pressure on the marriage. Getting your education is really important. When I married my husband, he already had his BA and got a job with a good company. We own our own home, and still ended up waiting 5 years to have our first child. He now has his masters and we're expecting our second. It's very important to me that we are able to have the size of family we want, but make sure that we bring them up in a home were we can provide for their needs and we're not stressed about so many other things. My husband was in school for his MBA and working full time at a job that required closer to 60 hours a week rather than 40, while I had a baby at home. I couldn’t image us trying to do that with two children. If it was me, I would want to work really hard now and get my husband through school, so that I could stay home and be with the children we have. I don’t like the idea of day care, or having babies and then never getting to spend all the time with them, because you have to do school and work as well.

Winnie, I remember you talking about your son back when The Passion of the Christ was released and how the movie affected him. Does that still hold an impact with him?

I don't think crying it out will be very good for your son. All it will do is make nursery seem even more traumatic to him and all of the other kids in there. He needs to know that you will be there for him and you haven't abandoned him. But he also needs to learn that he can't go run in the hall and that he is needs to stay in nursery. The first few weeks my son went to nursery he loved it. He could care less that I wasn't there. But then we were gone for a few weeks, and I think the next week we were there, he either got hit by one of the other kids, or all the other kids were just having a bad dad and crying, so it made nursery seem scary to him. For about a month he would cry when I tried to drop him off, and so I ended up going to nursery with him. I would try and sneak out, but if he noticed and got upset, I would have them come and get me, and I would stay in nursery with him. I would just sit in the corner, and some how that reassured him, and he would play and interact with the other kids. I guess it just depends on your child. My son rarely cries and is extremely friendly with other kids and adults, so for him to be acting like he was, was really against his nature. That's why I stayed in there, and now he has the assurance that I will be back to get him in 2 hours.

Yes. I'm also opposed to anyone saying that it's okay for them to use a certain word, do a certain act, or be part of something that only their race is allowed to participate in. In my mind, it annuls everything established by those who fought so hard to demand their civil liberties. Telling me what I can or can't do is like telling Rosa Parks "You can't sit there." In my mind, no one should use the "N" word; I don't care what or who you are. It’s an awful, horrible word. The mere mention of it makes me think of Mildred Taylor books and young boys being hung. To see segregation today in such form makes me think how little we have progressed. It is false empowerment. Is it right to ask anyone to pay or support the "positive" discrimination that those different organizations promote? Making it so the new oppressed groups are the White Middle Class Male population, who has to step aside to allow less qualified groups through because they had the fortune of being born in to a protected class in a day and age where there is enough education and enlightenment to make a protected class a very outdated term. I know that I am seeing things as they should be, and not how they are. But if I were to support this modern day notion of "separate but equal," it would go against everything I feel to be right.

You know what's racist? The black entertainment awards, and every other award show based on race. Could you imagine the uproar over an award show called "The white entertainment awards"?

Remember this is the Gospel Discussion forum. If you would like to discuss the views other than LDS teachings, please take it to the open forum.

I agree. You are unable to fulfill your calling due to their bad behavior and lack of respect. It's not your responsibility (nor your place) to teach them how to behave. Just as I agree that children should not be allowed to go to primary to are sick with a cold, nor should those who can't behave, because they ruin it for everyone else. March them to Gospel Doctrine and tell his/her parent in the hallway, "I'm sorry, but "name's" behavior in primary is unacceptable and he/she won't be allowed back until she can respect the teachers and the other children." Maybe once their are more children in Gospel Doctrine then adults, they'll get a clue.

If they don't then it's their problem, not yours. You're never going to be able to please everyone, so you need to do what works for you and what you feel is right. I was pretty upset to hear someone telling my future husband that he ought to be ashamed of himself for getting married in a place his family could not attend. Just need to realize that not everyone will understand or even accept all the decisions you make in your life.

Eating a lot of meat during Joseph Smith's time would've been bad due to lack of refrigeration.

I really don't feel strongly one way or the other as to the matter of Jesus having children. It just makes sense to me that he was married. I do think that if he did have children, I don't think they would have any special God-like powers, unless given to them by God. God created our Spirits and our Bodies, considering he created the bodies for Adam and Eve. I think it would take more than genetics.

I have always felt very strongly that Jesus was married. Interesting reads:

We just took our son to see the Wiggles in concert. I never thought I would see a 1.5 year old star struck. He want absolutely crazy, dancing and waving his arms. We sat next to Ken Jennings and his wife and son. I always said that I wasn't going to let my kids watch TV, but he absolutely adores them. And I guess I don't mind the 15 minutes to get ready in the morning without wondering what he's discovered to get into next. My husband will watch them with our son and knows all of the songs. I get a kick out of them dancing and singing together. (My son will do actions to a few of the songs and it's so funny to hear him singing in the car "Dough, dough, dough, dough, dough, ooo wiggy wiggy.") For me, Lost, 24, CSI (Vegas only) The Amazing Race <---going to try out for that one of these days My husband loves anything british (of course!). I really liked The Office, and I'm liking the american version even better.

I looked into this quite a bit before I started my business so I knew what was legal. You are allowed to make 1 copy, but you must retain both the copy and the original. I do a lot of transferring from PAL VHS format to DVD. (Such as movies or music videos that have been purchased overseas.) Often times the customer I am transferring the tape for tells me to just keep the PAL tape or throw it away, since they have no way of viewing it. I let them know that legally they need to keep the copy to prove that they are the original owners. There was also a family who wanted to copy their living scripture library and then keep the originals safe and allow their children to view and handle the copies. (At $30/DVD, I don't blame them.) I see no problem with you transferring your VHS tape to DVD, as long as you keep the VHS tapes and you're not viewing both copies at the same time and you only make ONE copy. In fact, I would highly recommend it. The moment a video is created, it starts to deteriorate. Burned copies of DVDs are projected to last 100 years (I would be leery of that projection, especially if you are using cheap media.) Unlike your videos tapes, the quality of a DVD will never fade, even copy to copy. One of the problems I run into is music for DVD menus and slideshows. Most times when a person has a DVD created, they want a lot of copies. I've found the best thing to do with that is purchase the MP3 file on the internet, and then repurchase the same MP3 again equal to the number of copies they want. I think the best thing to do with home movies is to just use freeplaymusic.com, as they have a huge selection of royalty-free instrumental music. The sad thing is most businesses that do wedding videos and such really don’t care. And honestly, I really don’t think anyone does. They are such small fries, it’s not like anyone is going to waste their time going after them. It seems that either people don’t know the laws, or they don’t care. I read an article in EW by Stephen King and he was talking about all the great music he has downloaded and made mixed CDs for his friends. I would assume he was paying for each MP3 downloaded, but I highly doubt he was purchasing multiple copies of the MP3 for each copy he made. At least he never stated that. If it were me, I would make sure everyone knew I was doing it legally.

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Hi Dror, I've added you now.

I've added a new forum in the Open Discussion section for Adult Advice topics of a sexual and sensitive nature. I'm also working on a mod that will allow users who are 18+ to choose if they want to be in the members or the open forum group.

Pretty interesting, but also I don't think much of it when all four gospel writers agree on Judas' betrayal. Perhaps it was something that Judas took out of context, and believed he was doing what Christ wanted. Maybe that he took payment for the betrayal is where he truly sinned. History is full of nutcases who believe they're doing God's will, and it wouldn't surprise me if he or someone else wrote it down. I just wonder why he would commit suicide if he believed he had done what he was asked to do. Hmm, funny, but this makes me think a lot about book 6 of harry potter. See the parallels?