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Yes, lets not worry about goverment extension. Lets not worry about it ever increasingly becomeing involved in our own personal lives. Its the USA goverment of course. Nothing can go wrong. The men who swear an oath to uphold the constitution in those offices are only men. Its always been the ordinary citizen, the people who have the greatest influence on how they vote and act. And goverment reach is now in your life. You are an open book. If you ever become big on the political scene, a protest or involved in something. They can read into all that data on you. Perhaps even blackmail you of past comments and other things. To think this cant happen shows shockingly incredible trust in the instutuions of goverment today. Lets just keep our heads in the dirt for 10 more years. Surely the dangers to our security will be over and these big brother laws revoked.

It probably wont matter to you until your life is harmed directly is someway. Thats the sad part.

This is a sign the goverment will become more transparent? You think if their where no whistle blowers the goverment would release such information such as this data collection center they are building? I am sure any person who was thinking of commiting a terrorist act already knew their email were being watched and phone calls. The Russian inteligence warned our own officals in the US about the tsarnev brothers as a security threat. And still with that information failed to act upon it and stop the planned attack. Even after they said they had phone calls of the oldest brother and still failed to do anything. The goverment wasent trying to keep this secret from the terrorists. I am sure that any terrorist who is capable of getting a bomb to detonate properly already knew what was going on. The goverment wanted to hide this from the people. Even if the people already knew it was occuring. They wanted to hide the fact that they are now watching any and evey person. Whether they are suspected or not suspected of any crime or future crime. And our leaders say we must make a choice between security and basic liberties. Well I have more of a chance dieing in my car than I do from a terrorist act. This is only the start. If this data center goes unopposed in the next 10 years or so the NSA will ask for more powers for our security.

I think this is an interesting article and I definitely agree with this quote. Quote: You want to know why most Mormons are worried about the government redefining marriage? It isn’t because they hate gay people. It is because the last time the government redefined the definition of marriage, Mormons got screwed over, imprisoned, invaded, and had their property confiscated for not following along with the federal government’s definition of marriage. The feds said you have to perform marriages like we tell you to, or you’re not a real religion, and we will throw you in prison. And for the people who say this could never happen, that’s super comforting, since it has before. So if you want to know why the Mormons in California voted against gay marriage, they weren’t scared of gay people. They were scared of the feds. Not sure if I quoted you correctly anddnex but thank you for that quote. I have thought about that. If the change in definitions and law would then climax to an attack on the church and what we believe, aswell as other organizations. This scenario has happened alot and not just for our church.

What is wrong with being a member and supporting gay marriage? As a member and a believer and follower of christ, I firmly beleive that marriage is between a man and a woman. I also belive in loving everyone and free agency. Even when that agency is used inccorectly, it is a part of learning in this life. Maybe I am naive, but if two people love eachother, why can they not form a family with eachother and have kids. Are there not disfunctional heterosexual couples? Can a loving homosexual couple raise a family fine? I believe they can. I also know from a young age some childeren develope same sex attraction. It is not because how they were raised or any imbalance in body development. Its as natural for a person with same sex attraction to love the same sex as it is for a heterosexual to love the opposite sex. So we condition homosexuals to be attracted to the opposite sex or simply deny it as natural? Its something I think we do not have alot of understanding of. Call it a liberal agenda or whatever that has lead to this point in our time of legalizing gay marriage. I do not see gay marriage as a sign of doom is near because of this or that the faithful have turned against christ. I see it as a step forward from backwords thinking. Maybe its the hate that is developed from people on both sides of the aisle that endangers society? Both are not all guilty, but there are individuals on both sides who are ignorant and will not love the other because of lifestyle and beliefe. I was delighted to hear what the church had to say in there message. I fully agree. A same sex couple now leagalized under the status of marriage raising a family under state law. I can live with that, I understand. A same sex couple marrying in the temple or being sealed is something entirely different for me. It is not what we believe or live by. To marry in the temple you have to be clean and ready. Its a task that is truely hard but promising. Again maybe I a am naive and young. This is my opinion and where I stand. I respect all the opinions in here to. People should stand for what they believe and thats always acceptable as long as both sides can be agreeable.

Your husband being involved in an activity that can land him in jail is crazy. He needs to be reminded he has a family he has commited too. I do know what he is doing is not exactly grafitti, but it is still considered by law ilegal if not permitted. Such as painting a mural under certain circumstances is legal. Murals can also be painted with spray cans(like gang grafiti) but into art. You do not have to be in a gang to do street grafiti(or art). Some people do it for many reasons. Grafiti can be for a gang or someones street art. Its just dangerous to be doing what your husband is doing. He needs to get his artistic side out under legal grounds.

"By Way Of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War." - a motto of Mossad. Not sure why they picked it. Israel got to obtain nuclear weapons. Well, only after the death of JFK; he was opposed to them going nuclear. I agree, it would only make matters worse. Splitting the region into jew and palaestinian by the UN order was also a mistake. Rather they should have remained and assimilated into the region. This only escalated hate in the creation of two factions holding claims to the same land. They did not need to go nuclear to defend themselves either from their hatefull neighbors. As even supported by: Israeli General Matityahu Peled, is quoted in Ha'aretz (19 March 1972) with the following statement, "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war." So I say why can not Iran have nuclear energy? If they do obtain nukes, why would we invade? What if they do not use it, but a means of deterance? I am not supporting the Iran regiem. I just want to avoid a conflict. Are sanctions worth it? United Nations Ambassador, Madeleine Albright, when appearing on 60 Minutes, was asked the following by correspondent Lesley Stahl, in reference to the years of United States led economic sanctions against Iraq, "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that is more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?" To which Ambassador Albright replied, "I think that is a very hard choice, but the price, we think, the price is worth it." Is it worth it today against Iran?

I think its okay to call this guy evil or heartless. He killed five year olds... Many of the worlds mass murderes in histroy had mental problems. Does that make what they did reasonable because of the unstable state of their mind? They premeditated and executed their ideas. This man at this elementary school sounds like he premediated this tagic event too. Its never acceptable to hurt others or take anothers life under any circumsatances in cold blood. I can't say I feel sorry for the killer. Twenty plus dead, more than half 5-10 year olds.

"If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." (Abraham Lincoln, Lyceum Address, January 27, 1838) Some of the people who are for such measures of seceding have agreed with mass expulsion of our illegal immigrants in this country. I do not think that is right. I also do not think Moses would cry ''let my people go'' and then after get rid of millions in his own ranks, much of whom may be living a lawfull life. The Church supports an approach where undocumented immigrants are allowed to square themselves with the law and continue to work without this necessarily leading to citizenship. In furtherance of needed immigration reform in the United States, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints supports a balanced and civil approach to a challenging problem, fully consistent with its tradition of compassion, its reverence for family, and its commitment to law.Immigration: Church Issues New Statement

Even as a symbolic gesture of petitioning to secede is reckless. There were people before us who fought and died to make these United States, this Union. Sure our goverment has done some things we disagree with, perhaps even oversteped there jurisdiction a little. But secedeing is not a solution. Its running away from the problem like a coward. What this country needs is to counter our problems together. Put aside politics for the common good of the people. If you believe there is evil at the highest of levels, let it trip over itself. Then revealing itself. And this movement(the tea party or anyhting close) has also picked up alot of racists. Ive seen it all over public social sites. Its a movement I do not want to affilliate with. I am also unsure of our goverment, and the far left movement. Both have become really extreme. I do think we can do much more together than split. This just shows you how divided we are, and unwilling to even work together. My position is not lukewarm either. So dont disregard me becuase I seem to not have chosen a side. It takes time to make sense out of things. None of us can predict the future and what side is right. Those who wrap themselves in the flag and claim to have god on their side can be very dangerous. I am all for freedom, justice, and the pursuit of happiness. The problem I have with these movements is freedom for whom? All of us? Surely by the rhetoric being said by both sides, somone is bound to suffer.

Well bobby boy was basically listing tragic events and a certain individual in history that had negative consequences. He was not saying President Obama is the next hitler, but he was saying Obama may be a negative player for our time. We have yet to see these next four years. He did not rush into saying Obama is the Anti-christ, but you can see that hes worried about the things he may do. I personally believe Romney and Obama were not what this nation needed. They both fail on the way I see foreign policy should be done. One is big goverment, the other is big corporations and states rights. This is the United States. Not the confederation of states(a group of states that are allied together to form a political unit in which they keep most of their independence but act together for purposes such as defense). If it was this way, America would be much different. Big brother is no solution either and is something people should oppose. Now you can see why the founding fathers had so much divison in which direction the country should go and how it should be run. This is where we are at right now. You have support for bigger goverment in varities of areas. Aswell as huge support for very small goverment that can and would effect many people. I think a nation should care to its people and veterans. Right now were willing to send troops to war and not have the proper funds or programs in place to support them or give them a job. The people come first, then foreign aid, and if war is absolutley neccsary, go ahead. I have gone off topic now, but I agree with both cathy and bob. A comparison to hitler is radical, and some events in our time may bring about tragic consequences. Only time will tell.

United States Foreign Policy An excerpt from a discourse by President Ezra Taft Benson. There is one and only one legitimate goal of United States foreign policy. It is a narrow goal, a nationalistic goal: the preservation of our national independence. Nothing in the Constitution grants that the President shall have the privilege of offering himself as a world leader. He’s our executive; he’s on our payroll, in necessary; he’s supposed to put our best interests in front of those of other nations. Nothing in the Constitution nor in logic grants to the President of the United States or to Congress the power to influence the political life of other countries, to “uplift” their cultures, to bolster their economies, to feed their peoples or even to defend them against their enemies. This point was made clear by the wise father of our country, George Washington: I have always given it as my decided opinion that no nation has a right to intermeddle in the internal concerns of another; that every one had a right to form and adopt whatever government they liked best to live under them selves; and that if this country could, consistent with its engagements, maintain a strict neutrality and thereby preserve peace, it was bound to do so by motives of policy, interest, and every other consideration. —George Washington (1732-1799) Letter to James Monroe (25 Aug. 1796) The preservation of America’s political, economic and military independence–the three cornerstones of sovereignty–is the sum and total prerogative of our government in dealing with the affairs of the world. Beyond that point, any humanitarian or charitable activities are the responsibility of individual citizens voluntarily without coercion of others to participate. The proper function of government must be limited to a defensive role–the defense of individual citizens against bodily harm, theft and involuntary servitude at the hands of either domestic or foreign criminals. But to protect our people from bodily harm at the hands of foreign aggressors, we must maintain a military force which is not only capable of crushing an invasion, but of striking a sufficiently powerful counterblow as to make in unattractive for would-be conquerors to try their luck with us. We are a Warlike People | Renounce War and Proclaim Peace

Thank you for letting me know of my grammatical errors. If you can get back to me on the links and your opinion and insight on it, that would be much appreciated. I am sorry a am no english grammer expert. I am also sorry if my opinions and fealings about gospel doctrine have offended some. I am going to stick to the teachings of christ, rather than my own intuition or an officals when it comes to playing with the idea of a war.

Well thank's for deleting the talk's the prophets have said, at least the people wont have to read a talk not 'properly' sourced. The Times in Which We Live - general-conference We are a Warlike People | Renounce War and Proclaim Peace - the site also discusses other important topic's on the side bar, that embrace's Christ's teaching's. Here they are in there proper link's. Please read them, and with a humble mind and meek in heart. I have also read your site rule's and would like to mention that I was wrong in my display of the talk's. Now they have sources. And I believe I was related to a unintelligent beauty pagent who only can spout that she want's world peace, and that I am arrogant of the history in the middle east. I did not spout name calling or inteligence remarks back, but I find that is of note now that I have read the site rule's. I suppose some of the past prophets were beauty pagent contestants too since they warned about the dangers of war. I do not think moroni would have sanctioned the lamanite people for there leaders for working towards obtaining a nuclear weapon. He would talk with them and act in Gods commandments. And by this the lord will protect you. And when the lamanites did strike by there own ignorance, who was saved? The nephites. The book of Mormon initself is a warning for our day's. It mirror's our times in every aspect. Replace the things of that time with twenty first century tech and there you have it. Terms & Conditions » LDS Social Network

You can find these talk's on lds.org, theres your reference's. The talk's I posted were not fictitious stories.